Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Tony Anderson passed away

Sad news... Tony so often had great ideas and unending energy to contribute Sean On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 6:27 PM Walter Bender wrote: > Sad news. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Nancie Severs > Date: Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 3:56 PM > Subject: Re: Tony Anderson passed away >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] Oversight Board Elections 2019-21 has begun!

Unfortunately, the voting system failed in my case, apparently due to a bug in the CIVS automatic browser language detection system. I have asked Vipul and CIVS to find a solution so I may vote. Sean On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, Vipul Gupta wrote: > Hello folks, > The Oversight Board

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hello guys please i want to ask if any one can help me on how to convert colors that are in hex to the color name :)

One possible approach could be to model a hex-name lookup table such as on this page [1], rounding to the nearest named color. Some ideas are here [2]. Sean 1. https://imagemagick.org/script/color.php 2. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38923744/how-to-map-a-range-of-hex-values-to-a-color

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon

So your idea is: no trademarks at all? Do you think Sugar Labs should give up its trademark? Is your goal to undermine Sugar Labs and/or OLPC? Sean On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org > wrote: > On 15/09/17 10:59, Sean DALY wrote: > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon

;>>> I second the motion. >>>> >>>> >>>> regards. >>>> >>>> -walter >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message -- >>>> From: Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> >>>

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [SLOBS] [SLOB] xo-computer icon

be found here: https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/foss-primer.html#x1-660005.4.2 Sean. Le jeu. 14 sept. 2017 à 09:02, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> a écrit : > On 14/09/17 08:00, Sean DALY wrote: > > Sebastian — these principles apply to copyright, not tradem

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [SLOBS] [SLOB] xo-computer icon

Sebastian — these principles apply to copyright, not trademarks, patents, or trade secrets. Sean Le jeu. 14 sept. 2017 à 08:50, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> a écrit : > > > On 14/09/17 07:37, Sean DALY wrote: > > Laura, I am not a lawyer, but the inclusion

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] xo-computer icon

Laura, I am not a lawyer, but the inclusion of a trademarked logo does not make software nonfree. Software is copyrighted after all; it's the license that brings freedom to it. In the absence of a formal trademark agreement, lawyers look at the way a trademark is used, and what the trademark owner

Re: [Sugar-devel] logo dicussion

ting materials to resemble the Sugar interface. Sean [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Booth_Banners On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: > > 2017-09-13 16:02 GMT-05:00 Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com>: > >> In the pas

Re: [Sugar-devel] logo dicussion

In the past, OLPC was amenable to the use of the xo logo in Sugar, but asked we not use it in marketing materials without a formal co-branding licensing agreement. [1,2] The proposed feet logo is likely a violation of the GNOME Foundation trademark, more info on their site [3]. Sean. 1.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] [SLOBS] [IAEP] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions This page is very useful. On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Claudia Urrea wrote: > Dave and all, > > I think we need someone to admin the motions. We have too many (pass, > pending votes and pending endorsement for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] A Better Idea...

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Laura Vargas wrote: > Thanks for reading/commenting Thanks Laura, I have made some additions. Dave - I don't agree that whomever submits a grant application becomes the treasurer for those funds. What should happen is a sales cycle: if

Re: [Sugar-devel] Suggestions

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:05 PM, samson goddy wrote: > And Sean, i really want to make this madatory to all members in SL. Since > you are in-charge of marketing how can i get started? Samson - I'm afraid there's no mandatory anything :-) nearly all of us are unpaid

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Go Social via Social Media

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Ifeanyi Peter wrote: > Maybe anytime we have suggestions that concerns Marketing, we would just > forward it to the Marketing Dept. for review. How to I join the marketing > team as well, I have some suggestions. Thanks Ifeanyi To

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

I'm sorry, I don't see how SL can support a new paid position. My suggestion would be to evaluate how the paid Translation Manager position works out. I'm glad Samson you are eager to work on social media (as I've said), however I don't understand your marketing objectives. Put another way, just

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] A Better Idea...

Hi Caryl I think you're saying that all SLOBs should be active fundraisers as part of the role? We could also say we "need a team of dedicated volunteers" to work on adapting Sugar Activities to curricula, on developing teacher tools, on providing support, on adding platforms, on localization,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:27 PM, samson goddy wrote: > should we use the adventage of the monetizing My point of view is that we "monetize" through CTAs and fundraising, rather than wait 27 years to get the resources we need through random ads. Sean.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

Yes Samson, the SFC fulfills these criteria. I am sure we would qualify. But as Adam says, let's sort out what we want to do first before going to the SFC. First step is a donor link which lands on their page with SL as prefilled choice. I suggest we try to go for Google Ad Grants, but this

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > How about "turtle in a box" videos? That would be aligned with our > mission/vision :) Indeed! if there is any way to generate zillions of views it's with turtles ;-)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

Samson - what about Google's program for nonprofits? https://www.google.com/grants/ Sean On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM, samson goddy wrote: > > okay i am going to create an open doc in google then explain further about > the video ads. The youtube ads is not as you

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I am eager to see real data on this YouTube advertiser RPM (revenue per thousand views), called eCPM by YouTube ("effective cost per thousand"), commonly varies from 50 US cents to $5 (before Google's Adsense 45% cut). I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I'm not saying if $X or $Y is greater; I am saying that we don't know > which is greater, and Samson will learn a lot by trying to maximize > the revenue of both. > In that case, I'm saying random ads will generate peanuts,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Your assertion that SL would see more revenue from CTA compared to ads. How can I make up data for a fundraising drive which hasn't happened yet? Sean ___ Sugar-devel mailing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > What data do you have to back up this assertion? :) Um, which assertion? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

I myself don't see an upside with allowing random ads to be associated with Sugar Labs, for the tiny amount of income we might receive. If indeed our US nonprofit status through SFC would allow gains from advertising. Far better to do Calls to Action ("CTA" in their jargon) and Annotations,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Source fonts

Hi Ütkarsh, you could look at the Libertine Open Fonts Project (GPL/OPL) http://www.linuxlibertine.org Sean On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Ütkarsh Tiwari wrote: > Hi, > Could anyone here please suggest any open source fonts which I can > use in my

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > Done. Wow! bravo Walter that was quick!! Sean ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Fortunately, SLOBs votes are done via email, at any time, and the monthly > SLOBs meetings are there to unjam any backlogs. ah I was under the impression that motions were debated and voted in the meetings, with recourse

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > FWIW I think this is reasonable, since the board have shared and equal > financial responsibility for the Conservancy account. In my view it's theoretically reasonable, however there is a real risk of red tape logjam. It's

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

the Donate button, but the other methods too? Sean On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > >> More importantly, I think the first step is to provi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > More importantly, I think the first step is to provide a simple way for > members or non-members to donate to support Sugar Labs. Is this paypal, > credit card or Is this something that SFC must provide or can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:28 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Us volunteers write code, make releases, do user testing, etc. Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". Dues are how many if not most normally functioning nonprofits operate. I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] facebook verification

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > What is the US trademark registration number? > > What is the trademarked goods and services class number? > US Serial Number: 7763427 US Registration Number: 365724 International Class: 9 US Classes: 021, 023, 026, 036,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Newbie on Sugar

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 3:40 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > I suppose on Windows, Notepad+ is still the best choice. I haven't worked > on a Mac for twenty years and so - no help. FWIW, I like PSPad on Windows and TextWrangler on Mac OS, both have tools for coders. Sean

Re: [Sugar-devel] facebook verification

Hi Samson, I looked and couldn't find any way to verify through the fb account I have Sean On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:25 PM, samson goddy wrote: > Hello, > I and Dave are doing the proposal to get the facebook page verified here > is the pull request from github.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > The site is hosted in github now [1], so we can accept pull requests (or > comments/issues) for changes. Could you please let us know what typos you > found? > > [1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs > Ah

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

those? I am relieved to see that the press page survived at its permalink. Sean On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > Hi > > On 21 April 2016 at 09:08, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I didn't realize the existing

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Juan Carlos Murillo wrote: > Also, if there is a range of different colors for the logo, then a good > idea might be to use the same logo color for the websites that have more > related content between them (i.e. homepage and activities).

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 6:48 AM, James Cameron wrote: > > but I can not find any evidence that XP was - [...] - ever shipped > > by OLPC, [...] > > None. Windows XP required a PC architecture, which the early models > were capable of, and the systems were engineered, but there

Re: [Sugar-devel] All Things Open

Hi Tony, my impression is that All Things Open is more business-oriented... "in the enterprise" We don't have a vision or roadmap yet, which makes that a tight deadline. Sean P.S. "If" the conference will be maintained in NC... the new discriminatory legislation enacted there has created a

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

Developer discussion about SL brand identity. Hopefully the MIT Sloan conclusions will be taken into account Sean -- Forwarded message -- From: Dave Crossland Date: Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign To: Juan

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:59 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > This new capability is intended to eliminate the need for cygwin No doubt MS likes any initiative against Red Hat. I think they want to simplify server administration in a mixed-OS environment from a Windows

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I think users will still need to install and run an X server to run unix > GUI programs; but there are several good X servers for windows, so this > should be easy it's true that I can run some FLOSS GUI software using an

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > One development that seems to be ignored on these lists is Microsoft's > announcement that it will support Bash on Windows 10. As I understand it, > the goal is to be able to run Ubuntu programs on Windows 10 using a

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

yed and paid for, a > new order can be placed. However, this means at least $2M will be tied up > in inventory. > > Tony > > > > On 04/09/2016 10:12 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> Fi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

Hi Dave, the $2390 sum is for the following marketing/promotion/PR expense: eReleases CauseWire 10-pack Invoice #011413122 This was authorized by a SLOBs vote in late 2012. Prior to the pack, I was funding press releases on pay-as-you-go out of my pocket, and I wasn't able to continue that any

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Finding ten ritzy private primary schools in the US where the parents can > drop $400 in a hat shouldn't be too hard for a savvy sales person I'd like to think that's so, but it may well be more likely that parents would be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing][GSOC] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

Monday for NGOs. I'll keep an eye out for any relevant bits of info. > > I will be going to the the OLPC SF meeting tomorrow. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 8, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 1

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:13 PM, samson goddy wrote: > a proposal of targeting more users via the social media (Facebook and > twitter). And i will submit it this week or next so we will know that to do. Great! So... what is our target or targets? What is our objective

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

Hi Ignacio are you ...? * a donor interested in supporting a project to support financially? * a developer interested in a project to volunteer with? * a teacher interested in a classroom computer-based learning tool? * a parent interested in a home setting computer-based learning tool? * a cool

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Localization] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Concerning marketing, In the past I funded nearly everything out of pocket including big-ticket items like the 100 USB sticks and of course travel but was unable to continue doing so when I reached $5000 of expenses. I did request and receive funding from the SLOBs for newswire press releases, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] DESIGN TEAM Assemblage

Hi Ifeanyi Matthew, There hasn't been much marketing activity lately in the absence of a roadmap, funds, and developer resources. In the past the Design team assisted the Marketing team, for example: https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Booth_Banners in SL marketing, the most important

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Twitter password recovering

Hi Samson, I never used the twitter account and never knew the password myself Sean On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:58 PM, samson goddy wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have been trying to reset the twitter page of the sugarlabs for the past > 1 month now. I discussed with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration

Hi Samson, this is a copy/pasted form letter, the tipoff is they mention company which means they did not bother spending three clicks to find out about Sugar Labs. If their event is legit, we can always ask them if they will assist a nonprofit like us in attending, with travel, room board :-)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration

in a couple of days ok On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Sean, Could you reply? On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Samson, this is a copy/pasted form letter, the tipoff is they mention company which means

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

Thanks Peter, I was watching that too. If I understand correctly switching/changing the sections or adding an Activity is beyond tweaks? while text changes are tweaks. I'm quite happy with it, even though there are lots of changes we suggested which aren't in. I feel the only tweak still to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

jars a bit on the page, as Chat is used in the Spins page template to refer to IRC. My memory is that Jukebox is not part of the core set (due to non-free components?). Perhaps the section Multimedia as it stands should be deleted. Regards, Iain On Mon, 2015-05-18 at 09:29 +0200, Sean DALY

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

Gonzalo - Iain had already consolidated all changes but Peter doesn't want to deal with a text file. Sean On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Iain, Sean, Sam, _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. Peter, when need this be finished?

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

Peter - here is Iain's document: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/attachments/20150519/bdaf00ca/attachment.html Sean On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Gonzalo - Iain had already consolidated all changes but Peter doesn't want to deal

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

be replacd with simple double parentheses ( quot;) or the HTML entities ldquo; and rdquo; thanks Sean On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Sun, 2015-05-17 at 15:14 +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Peter - Walter's edits were for the Activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

so I can submit them early next week as a single final edit. Peter On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Peter - are the intro edits I sent going in? thanks Sean On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: It's

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

Peter - are the intro edits I sent going in? thanks Sean On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: It's already in process On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, I think Walter send out a good copy [1] with

Re: [Sugar-devel] f22-spins page is being written and needs suggestions

Hi Tom, Gonzalo had mentioned this, I have a rewrite of the introduction in the works and Sam's Activity texts are good. The main issue is explaining that SOAS Desktop is not a desktop (!) Peter is coordinating on the Fedora side. Sean On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Thomas Gilliard

Re: [Sugar-devel] f22-spins page is being written and needs suggestions

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: See the post I just sent to the list less than a hour ago :-) Thanks Sean, Peter On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, Gonzalo had mentioned this, I have a rewrite

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: You might laugh but when the OLPC Association was actively answering bids for laptops, this dance happened all the time. Also known as sales calls, never a strong point with FLOSS projects, and one of the reasons so

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Another little computer kickstarter

The onboard composite video out is an interesting approach... can plug into old secondhand TVs with poor resolution, just like my first computer in 1983. Of course, when you add everything that's missing, you hit 10x the price, as you've seen before. And fragile cables/adapters all over the place.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

Hi Tony not sure if this is helpful, but the Python script youtube-dl ( http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/) is very useful for downloading vids from YouTube (curent/playlist/batch), and offers options such as --age-limit, --max-filesize, --rate-limit, --max-quality, and in particular --format

Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing alias

+1 to Samson who seeks a more active presence for SL on social media. Sean. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: +1 To Samson. I remember we explicitly proposed add one more member to the committee, and Walter proposed try include a young hacker.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] New try on a better sugarlabs site

Dan - two years ago we arrived at 3 million by estimating 2.6 million XO laptops delivered, Sugar on Intel Classmates in Argentina (between 50K and 100K of the approximately 1.5 million locally assembled from 2011 - the others had been running Windows and may have been reconditioned to GNU/Linux),

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC projects

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: We can ask language and keyboard in the first boot as we do with age and gender. I think create and maintain a complete matrix of VMs will be more difficult. Gonzalo On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Sean DALY sdaly

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC projects

) but in particular about what support they would offer Sugarlabs towards our targets? Would there be a view against this idea? Regards, Iain On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 11:37 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: Yes, of course, which is why my idea was to get assistance. To be clear, I'm in favor of whatever

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC projects

No the license was fine last time i checked - look at the section concerning nonprofit/educational use. Our plan had been to bundle Sugar prebuilt images with the Virtualbox installer. The real issue is the extensions which are separate from the installer for licensing reasons and must be loaded

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC projects

have a vm by host language/keyboard? Or we can ask to the user using the same code from the Sugar control panel? Gonzalo On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 06:26:34PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: My idea at the time was to approach

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Planning for the future (Samuel, Greenfeld)

Hi Tony, I for one certainly don't feel Sugar is only for children in developed countries. I believe Sugar offers benefits for all children. I do think that widespread use of Sugar in developed countries would encourage its use in the developing world, for several reasons. One of these is the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)

cc'ing the Marketing list - the one everyone forgets as soon as they discuss marketing. The MarketLab study we worked on back then confirmed what we already knew - that Sugar's websites did not accompany teachers interested in Sugar, and that Sugar absolutely needed a simple installer. They also

Re: [Sugar-devel] Mail subscription in sugar-devel interrupted

I had been booted from both sugar-devel and IAEP, and although the sugar-devel reactivate link worked, that link didn't work for IAEP. Manually forcing it on the IAEP sub page fixed it. Sean On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Reporting here if is

Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for opinions/ideas!

Hi Tymon, I think it's great you have stepped up to rework the sl.o website. Christian who designed the original pages had worked on a new framework a while back, but we got bogged down trying to find usable (both attractive and legal) visuals of kids using Sugar. I have a typographical

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Fwd: admin of sugarlabs fb page

24, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: a worthy question -- Forwarded message -- From: Puneet Kaur puneet.gk...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 6:41 PM Subject: [Sugar-devel] admin of sugarlabs fb page To: Sugar Devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

WIPO's Romarin database contradicts you regarding the LEGO mark. LEGO vigorously defend infringement of their marks ( http://aboutus.lego.com/en-gb/legal-notice/fair-play). Sean On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: On Thu, 27.02.2014 01:13,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

2013, Sean DALY wrote: Daniel - if we can work out where SL is going, we can build a PR story. If we aren't sure, it's better to communicate other aspects (TA Days, Google Code-In, the TripAdvisor grant). I like v3 as a major version, step versions could be called 3.102, 3.103, 3.104

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar tryout (was Re: sugarlabs.org redesign)

, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: At least the virtualbox looks doable and a good way to show Sugar. Gonzalo On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: On Thursday, 7 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: The larger problem is the absence

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Sebastian, yes I should have been more clear about which Sebastian :-) At the time, Sugar was perceived as being only available on OLPC XOs, so our effort was designed to show that it was available for other platforms. Indeed, our claim

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar tryout (was Re: sugarlabs.org redesign)

I believe Oracle GPL'd the code itself, as I remember it was the extension pack installer that had licensing issues... in any case, topics for the SFC to help with Sean On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Sean DALY

Re: [Sugar-devel] different perspectives

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:56 AM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.comwrote: The highest rate of progress happens when the parties focus on getting ahead of the other guys rather then when they focus on holding others back. Progress tends to stop when one party gets so far ahead that it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar tryout (was Re: sugarlabs.org redesign)

, 8 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: Not only doable, has been done for some time now [1,2] and is multi-platform ( what I use to demo Sugar on a Mac) The Oracle PUEL license [3] very interestingly permits free redistribution for educational purposes, opening the possibility of a single

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar tryout (was Re: sugarlabs.org redesign)

. I suspect we don't have a way to count the number of users that managed to reach the Sugar home. But measuring completed downloads would be a start. * Gradually get rid of as many barriers as possible and see how the rate is affected. On Friday, 8 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: Of course

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

), and transitioning to the wild new world of handheld devices. Sean On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.orgwrote: El 06/11/13 17:35, Sean DALY escribió: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: But you have for a long time refused

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

If we are talking about a version number that might make it into a press release at some point, this is a marketing discussion so I have cc'd the list. As I've explained previously, the major issue with a v1 seven years after entering production is that it is incomprehensible. Non-techies (i.e.

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

, we have a problem. Gonzalo On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: If we are talking about a version number that might make it into a press release at some point, this is a marketing discussion so I have cc'd the list. As I've explained previously

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

cc'ing marketing for... a marketing issue Nope, the GTK3 change just passed under the radar. As stated previously I lobbied for a v1 six years ago which is why we are ready for a v2. Or even a v3. For building a PR story I can work with v2 or v3, just not v1. The issue with 2.2, 2.4 is that

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

, marketing 3 + some name. * if we cannot PR it, developers will call it 2.103, marketing... just won't call it :) Is that correct? On Thursday, 7 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: cc'ing marketing for... a marketing issue Nope, the GTK3 change just passed under the radar. As stated previously I

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

releasing 2.x as you suggest... On Thursday, 7 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: If we are talking about a version number that might make it into a press release at some point, this is a marketing discussion so I have cc'd the list. As I've explained previously, the major issue with a v1 seven

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

with any message attached... It would address the fact that we never released a 1.0 without having PR consequences. Then when we figure out what 2.0 really means marketing wise, we can start releasing 2.x as you suggest... On Thursday, 7 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: If we

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

, but it's an interesting direction to explore ... Keyboards are not completely dead yet IMO! On Thursday, 7 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: If we are talking about a version number that might make it into a press release at some point, this is a marketing discussion so I have cc'd the list

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

an interesting direction to explore ... Keyboards are not completely dead yet IMO! On Thursday, 7 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: If we are talking about a version number that might make it into a press release at some point, this is a marketing discussion so I have cc'd the list. As I've

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

releasing 2.x as you suggest... On Thursday, 7 November 2013, Sean DALY wrote: If we are talking about a version number that might make it into a press release at some point, this is a marketing discussion so I have cc'd the list. As I've explained previously, the major issue with a v1

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: But you have for a long time refused to actually even market SoaS! That's right, at the time SoaS became an official Fedora spin, Mel and Sebastian decided to take over marketing, which included coming up with

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

Gonzalo - I'm sorry, I was unable to attend the SLOBs meeting today. There are issues with doing PR about the release * It's not clear to me where we are going. The OLPC/Sugar development ecosystem seems to be at a crossroads. I am encouraged by the web activity work, but don't understand the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar 0.100 or 1.0

We can't go with 1.0 unless we change the numbering system. The current system means it will take another decade to get to v3.0. I and perhaps others will have far more grey hair by then. I proposed several years ago that the developer version numbers (not to mention the OLPC OS version numbers)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar future (was Re: Re: [DESIGN] Single instance activities)

Daniel - thanks for that cc'ing the IAEP list, since the topic of the future of Sugar is I believe of general interest to developer and non-developer contributors alike. Porting Sugar to Android was identified at the beginning of the year by the Oversight Board as a strategic goal for Sugar

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