Re: [Sugar-devel] no module named sugar.activity.activity

2020-01-29 Thread Tony Anderson
It is sad that these developers do not have access to Sugar installed on an XO. The process of upgrading from GTK2 to GTK3 is simple and practical. The original version of the activity can be run directly. The new version can be installed in parallel. As changes are made they can be directly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Using ad hoc network, was Re: XO laptop as wireless remote terminal for Internet-in-a-Box

2019-12-03 Thread Tony Anderson
laptop you can test the antennas using firmware; http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Antenna_testing Should you need a laptop unlocked, send me the serial number. (removed CC support-gang, as I'm not subscribed.) On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 09:40:41AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: The dicussion below  appears to refer

[Sugar-devel] Using ad hoc network, was Re: XO laptop as wireless remote terminal for Internet-in-a-Box

2019-12-02 Thread Tony Anderson
The dicussion below  appears to refer to the use of an XO to administer a schoolserver. I urgently need help at the other end: using an XO toserve content in a classroom using 'SimpleHTTPServer'. This is an installed Python module that enables an XO to serve content via an ad-hoc network. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] From OLPC XO To Positivo: Rwanda Sets The Bar Higher

2019-11-27 Thread Tony Anderson
n, Nov 25, 2019 at 4:38 AM Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: The current school year in Rwanda is just ending and the new year starts January 6. The Positivos have been distributed to GS (Groupe Scolaire) schools which are public with grades from e

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] From OLPC XO To Positivo: Rwanda Sets The Bar Higher

2019-11-25 Thread Tony Anderson
The current school year in Rwanda is just ending and the new year starts January 6. The Positivos have been distributed to GS (Groupe Scolaire) schools which are public with grades from entry to S3 (9th grade). The ICT Curriculum is based on Windows - with some planned expansion to include

Re: [Sugar-devel] Releasing activities on ASLO

2019-07-22 Thread Tony Anderson
At a minimum I hope activities releassed to ASLO have been tested on the XO (intel and arm). If not, at least the description could note that the activity is not supported on the XO. Tony On 7/22/19 4:29 PM, Swarup N wrote: Hello, I wish to release activities on ASLO. This is in part of

[Sugar-devel] Marcel Minnaert

2019-06-26 Thread Tony Anderson
While at the iRods Userr Group Meeting at the University of Utrecht, I found this on the wall of the Minnaert building: "Aren't most children's games basically an excellent series of science experiments?"             Marcel Minnaert (1893-1970) Tony

Re: [Sugar-devel] Request for Comments: What's missing for a Sugar 1.0 release?

2019-05-20 Thread Tony Anderson
to the latest release of Sugar. Does anyone have any estimates for how many machines are in active use and how many are really upgraded? On Mon, May 20, 2019, 3:18 AM Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: Sugar Labs are the only people on the planet who beli

Re: [Sugar-devel] Request for Comments: What's missing for a Sugar 1.0 release?

2019-05-20 Thread Tony Anderson
Sugar Labs are the only people on the planet who believe 0.114 > 0.98. The primary requirement is that it works on all models of the XO (still by far the dominant platform for Sugar). It should be documented by an update to Documentation 0.106. Tony On 5/20/19 6:36 AM, Alex Perez wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Toolkit Installation Sugar v0.113

2019-05-15 Thread Tony Anderson
+1 On 5/14/19 8:41 PM, Walter Bender wrote: Any chance of a 0.113.1 maintenance release [1] to make this patch available? Seems unreasonable to expect mere mortals to find and apply patches just to get started. regards. -walter [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maintenance_release On Tue,

Re: [Sugar-devel] first-time only issues

2019-05-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Incredible! We are having trouble identifying tasks that need doing. Try:     Over 100 Sugar Activities in ASLO which fail to start.     Many activities which do not have a repository in github.com/sugarlabs     Many activities still dependent on gtk3 and other deprecated moduless Tony On

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland (Tony Anderson)

2019-04-30 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Touche. Tony On 5/1/19 6:43 AM, D. Joe wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 09:00:24AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: Agreed. I think Sugarizer has a better immediate opportunity to attract new users than Sugar/Python. Be that as it may, it's an odd thing to mention in a thread about promoting

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora 30 SoaS (Sugar on A Stick) final released

2019-04-30 Thread Tony Anderson
The current SOAS installation page (https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation) includes the caution: *Important change since Fedora 24 SoaS* The/livecd-iso-to-disk/installation script is no longer packaged in the SoaS .iso file. Starting with Fedora 24, if you want a Live

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland

2019-04-23 Thread Tony Anderson
I think you missed my point. Software is developed and maintained to serve the needs of its users, in our case primary school children. Tony On 4/22/19 9:40 PM, D. Joe wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 03:42:52PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: What Sugar Labs needs to survive is users. If our

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: SOAS on R-Pi

2019-04-23 Thread Tony Anderson
I hope you are successful in this initiative. It is exactly what we need to document as part of the education project. Tony On 4/23/19 11:43 AM, Hilary Naylor wrote: Hi James, Thank you, that's very helpful. However, isn't there a way to have a choice between sugar and the raspbian desktop?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland

2019-04-20 Thread Tony Anderson
conferences for Sugar Labs. I think some good would surely come out this if we all work together. Cordially, Vipul Gupta Mixster <https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/> | Github <https://github.com/vipulgupta2048> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:12 AM Tony Anderson <mailto:t...@olene

Re: [Sugar-devel] Interested in Joining GSOD 2019

2019-04-18 Thread Tony Anderson
I don't think we have completed plans for GSOD yet. However, the current user documentation for Sugar is at help.sugarlabs.org. How to work with the  documentation is described in the section 'Contribute to this manual'. The main web site: www.sugarlabs.org describes how to set up Sugar - in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland

2019-04-15 Thread Tony Anderson
, 9:55 AM Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: What Sugar Labs needs to survive is users. If our count of active users reaches zero, there will be no need for developers (or Sugar Labs). A Conference like PyCon is an opportunity to show that Sugar is a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland (Tony Anderson)

2019-04-15 Thread Tony Anderson
:52 +0800 From: Tony Anderson mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland Message-ID: mailto:a42719ae-037d-9224-c420-fb98df7a6...@

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland

2019-04-15 Thread Tony Anderson
What Sugar Labs needs to survive is users. If our count of active users reaches zero, there will be no need for developers (or Sugar Labs). A Conference like PyCon is an opportunity to show that Sugar is a viable educational platform. So marketing does not need to be concerned about $, it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs-2019

2019-04-14 Thread Tony Anderson
Clearly, you want to contribute to our documentation. GSOC makes clear that Sugar Labs has at least three separate elements: Sugar, Sugarizer and Music Blocks. I would like to see you help us with the Sugar documentation. This is found at help.sugarlabs.org. This documentation is made with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Draft for submission(Maintaining 25 activities)

2019-04-07 Thread Tony Anderson
The idea that a competent programmer will spend the summer working on Sugar activities is exciting. However, the activities selected are the best maintained in our repertoire. The following is a list of 25 activities that don't work (fail to start). These are activities from the ASLO archive.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSOC] Proposals for Create new set of activities

2019-04-07 Thread Tony Anderson
, I'll be inspired to update the bundle. regards. -walter On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:52 PM Tony Anderson <mailto:t...@olenepal.org>> wrote: Scratch is heavily used in Rwanda. The users do not find the 1.4 version as a limitation. As far as I can see, Mus

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar- devel] My GSoC proposal for create new set of activities for Sugar

2019-04-07 Thread Tony Anderson
If you can do one of these two well enough to become part of the Sugar Activities Library in the GSOC period, it will be a notable achievement. Most of our GSOC projects fail to be finished and so the effort is lost as the participants return to school. As a professional programmer, I used to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSOC] Proposals for Create new set of activities

2019-04-05 Thread Tony Anderson
Scratch is heavily used in Rwanda. The users do not find the 1.4 version as a limitation. As far as I can see, Music Blocks was not developed as a Sugar Activity. A worthwhile first step would be to see if it works in Gnome on an XO. This is presumably something a candidate with access to an

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal for "New Sugar Activity"

2019-04-04 Thread Tony Anderson
It appears that you are making one activity out of two. It might be easier to construct two separate Sugar activities. The second activity seems to depend on internet access. Perhaps two-thirds of our users have limited or no access to the internet. Perhaps it is possible to construct the

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC: Proposal for "Create new activities"

2019-03-30 Thread Tony Anderson
. Thanks, Muhammad Usman On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 5:09 AM <mailto:sugar-devel-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org>> wrote: Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 16:38:47 +0800 From: Tony Anderson mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org <

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal : creating new activity for Sugarizer

2019-03-29 Thread Tony Anderson
There is already a python sugar activity 'WordSearch' which for some reason does not appear in the Sugar Activities Library. Version 3 has the ability for the teaher (user) to prepare a list of words. The activity then creates the 'puzzle box' and allows the user to find the hidden words. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC: Proposal for "Create new activities"

2019-03-29 Thread Tony Anderson
The Jupyter Notebook project is of particular interest to me. Over the past several GSOC periods, developers have had a problem completing their projects within the allotted time. You are proposing to take on several projects, any one of which is a big load for one summer. If you undertake

Re: [Sugar-devel] GTranslator-1?

2019-03-07 Thread Tony Anderson
is Ezequiel's commit. I suggest long term remove the binaries, remove all libraries except libsugarize, bring the shell script closer to what it was, and install the gtranslator package for the operating system. On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 01:18:38PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: The activity GTranslator Version

[Sugar-devel] GTranslator-1?

2019-03-07 Thread Tony Anderson
The activity GTranslator Version 1 in ASLO (dated June 30, 2010) is not the same as the version in github.com/sugarlabs. The github version 1 - dated Jan. 27, 2016 attempts to execute correct binaries for i686, Arm, and amd-64. However, it fails to start in either of the first two cases:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Help-21 fails to start

2019-03-07 Thread Tony Anderson
), open html/index.html in browser. This works independent of Sugar. Tony On 3/7/19 3:02 PM, Tony Anderson wrote: Thanks. I'll keep trying to see if I can find a path. Tony On 3/7/19 2:47 PM, James Cameron wrote: Yes, as I said, both Sphinx and "make html" are needed before making

Re: [Sugar-devel] Help-21 fails to start

2019-03-06 Thread Tony Anderson
Thanks. I'll keep trying to see if I can find a path. Tony On 3/7/19 2:47 PM, James Cameron wrote: Yes, as I said, both Sphinx and "make html" are needed before making the bundle. On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:43:33PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: I am trying to install help-20 (from

Re: [Sugar-devel] Help-21 fails to start

2019-03-06 Thread Tony Anderson
s. On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:41:11AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: The version of the Help activity in github.com/sugarlabs has only an es folder in the html folder. It fails to start when trying to display html/inde.html (not found). Tony ___ Sugar-dev

[Sugar-devel] Helo-21 fails to start

2019-03-05 Thread Tony Anderson
The version of the Help activity in github.com/sugarlabs has only an es folder in the html folder. It fails to start when trying to display html/inde.html (not found). Tony ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Create an adapter that calls the third parties/libraries for better maintainability.

2019-02-15 Thread Tony Anderson
Alejandro García Generally, I believe you first need to know how to do something several times before deciding to automate. In that case, the question is whether the automation will be used enough to justify the implementation time and effort and whether the automation will make the process

Re: [Sugar-devel] Abandoned or orphaned activities

2019-01-23 Thread Tony Anderson
has $95k we could spend.  You've seen from the list what my time can accomplish each year, and that's not 100% of my time. On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 08:03:16AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: > My original point was that as a community we should view the activities on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Abandoned or orphaned activities

2019-01-23 Thread Tony Anderson
, Tony Anderson wrote: My original point was that as a community we should view the activities on ASLO as a corpus to be treasured and protected. No activity can be either abandoned or orphaned. It is the responsibility of the community. When a change 'upstream' breaks an activity or set of activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] Abandoned or orphaned activities

2019-01-22 Thread Tony Anderson
stributed by the Project will be distributed solely as Free Software. But I've not heard from the Conservancy on this. I don't think there are any other things that would be accomplished, so it's not something I'm inclined to ask about. But I acknowledge Devin's concern; I too would rath

Re: [Sugar-devel] Abandoned or orphaned activities

2019-01-21 Thread Tony Anderson
plications of our choices, which have had little if any input from the learning side of the house. Would be great to get more input to help us in regard to what is most valuable to our users (whether they know it or not). @Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net> would be great if you c

Re: [Sugar-devel] Abandoned or orphaned activities

2019-01-21 Thread Tony Anderson
, Jan 21, 2019 at 09:12:01AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: While it is marvelous to see some actual attention to the Sugar activities, this approach is the direct opposite of the logic behind the move of the activities to gitHub. This is a return to the G1G1 model in which individuals develop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Abandoned or orphaned activities

2019-01-20 Thread Tony Anderson
While it is marvelous to see some actual attention to the Sugar activities, this approach is the direct opposite of the logic behind the move of the activities to gitHub. This is a return to the G1G1 model in which individuals develop, contribute and own activities. There can be no abandoned

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC project ideas

2019-01-20 Thread Tony Anderson
This project was not completed given the limited time available to GSOC projects. It fell victim to the common problem of expanding the goals beyond the available resources. Currently I believe Jupyter Notebook is a better solution if it can be added to Sugar. Tony On 1/18/19 7:40 AM, James

Re: [Sugar-devel] Need help with setting up development environment on ubuntu

2019-01-11 Thread Tony Anderson
On Ubuntu, activities are stored in a system folder: /usr/share/sugar/activities. However any activity can be made local in /home/username/Activities. The activities are written in Python and so changes can be made directly in the source code. The changes can be tested by running the activity.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Porting to Python 3: GSoC 2019

2018-12-31 Thread Tony Anderson
This 'ideas list' is hard to follow: The criteria are excellent. Howver there appears to be only one idea, not a list. The idea is to port Sugar to Python 3 - this seems to be a necessity -not an idea. However, the description seems to limit this idea to porting only the telepathy interface

Re: [Sugar-devel] welcoming the new Sugar Labs oversight board members

2018-12-23 Thread Tony Anderson
I could not determine if this site is open. To benefit from the content on this site it would be necessary to provide offline copies. Tony On 12/22/18 7:00 PM, Rishabh Thaney wrote: Sounds like a good idea, you mean for the activities mentioned in the previous mail? I will be exploring more

Re: [Sugar-devel] Website Update for a/b testing

2018-12-20 Thread Tony Anderson
I didn't read everything but it appears this has to do with www.sugarlabs.org and not Sugar. Our fundamental problem is the perception that Sugar is limited to the XO platform. Not only do we need to focus on Sugar for other platforms but on the basic question: What does Sugar offer that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Install sucrose

2018-12-10 Thread Tony Anderson
/ubuntu.md Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net> December 10, 2018 at 9:35 AM Hi, Alex I used https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/ubuntu.md. Tony On 12/10/18 5:12 PM, Alex Perez wrote: ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Install sucrose

2018-12-10 Thread Tony Anderson
account? If so, please feel free to add it to the appropriate page yourself, but it would also be helpful for you to actually cite the content you are referencing here. Regards, Alex Perez Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net> December 10, 2018 at 8:48 AM Hi, James Alex Perez iden

Re: [Sugar-devel] Install sucrose

2018-12-10 Thread Tony Anderson
rror. Not really our responsibility here at Sugar Labs, so we rely on interested people to do it. On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 10:10:54AM +, Tony Anderson wrote: Sadly, this is not the problem. The Universe repository was enabled. wiki.debian.org/sugar/#Running the Sugar interface says U

Re: [Sugar-devel] Install sucrose

2018-12-03 Thread Tony Anderson
to https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose With Ubuntu 18.04, you should just be able to run "sudo add-apt-repository universe" and enable it. Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net> Friday, November 30, 2018 9:34 PM I am trying to install sugar on a Windows laptop. I was able to

Re: [Sugar-devel] GCI plan for chatbot functionality and updating website to bootstrap v4.1.x

2018-12-02 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi Amaan You are, of course, aware that a chatbot capability is offered by the Speak Activity based on Alice. Alice can be 'taught' so that its dialogs can be improved. With a simple modification, it can be made to respond by default: 'I don't know'. to a question such as 'What is the third

Re: [Sugar-devel] Install sucrose

2018-12-01 Thread Tony Anderson
the 'universe' apt repository enabled, since this is where the sucrose package lives, according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/sucrose With Ubuntu 18.04, you should just be able to run "sudo add-apt-repository universe" and enable it. Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@us

[Sugar-devel] Install sucrose

2018-11-30 Thread Tony Anderson
I am trying to install sugar on a Windows laptop. I was able to get 50gb unallocated space and installed ubuntu 18.04 LTS. The command 'sudo apt install sucrose' returned package not found. Tony ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

2018-10-20 Thread Tony Anderson
In my experience the active developers understand git much better than Sugar. I'd prefer active users in an educational deployment. Tony On Saturday, 20 October, 2018 01:34 AM, James Cameron wrote: Why? They usually don’t know enough to explain Sugar, let alone be an ambassador. I’d prefer

[Sugar-devel] Sugaractivities - aslo alternative

2018-07-13 Thread Tony Anderson
This is to announce an interim alternative for ASLO. It provides access to  activities from ASLO and from github/Sugarlabs where a repository has been created. In Sugar, enter https://tony37.github.io/Sugaractivities as the url. This will display the main page providing access to the complete

Re: [Sugar-devel] Temporarily removed tony37 from GitHub organisation sugarlabs

2018-07-12 Thread Tony Anderson
Great! Again, my apology for the mistake. Tony On Thursday, 12 July, 2018 09:52 AM, James Cameron wrote: GitHub support has restored the repositories. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Temporarily removed tony37 from GitHub organisation sugarlabs

2018-07-12 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, James I went wrong! I was deleting obsolete repositories in my account. I did not realize that the list included Sugarlabs repositories, assuming that I was working only in my own. My sincerest apology and I hope that developers have a clone of these repositories. I believe that I should

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugarlabs/foodforce2-activity] Port to Gtk+3 (#1)

2018-07-11 Thread Tony Anderson
Are you really saying that the 100+ activities ported to GTK+3 are simply changes and do not represent a new version? When do you expect it will  be possible to release any of these ports. So far the only one I know is the release of turtleblocks v 218 by Walter Bender. I believe the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugarlabs/help-activity] Port to Python3 (#4)

2018-07-05 Thread Tony Anderson
This activity displays static web sites. I would seem better to port this as a sugar web activity than to Python3. Tony On Thursday, 05 July, 2018 03:42 AM, James Cameron wrote: You need to remove those unintended changes; not remove the files altogether. Your aggregate change

Re: [Sugar-devel] licensing question

2018-06-14 Thread Tony Anderson
+0800, Tony Anderson wrote: [personal calumny and squabbling elided] The only way Sugar users can access activities not already installed is by ASLO (unless we have some really carefully hidden source). Open the Terminal activity if not yet installed, install git from upstream repos, eg dnf

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Idea of a "Quiz" based activity

2018-06-10 Thread Tony Anderson
This capability is provided currently by the Quiz activity (originally developed in Austria as the ImageQuiz activity). While the current version has not been updated on ASLO, it is in use in Rwanda. Essentially, the teacher prepares a text file similar to the method used by Moodle, e.g.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Add a reset button to Sugar

2018-06-10 Thread Tony Anderson
If you want to do this, ensure it is enabled by a gsetting. First this use case does not apply to Sugar on Ubuntu since each user has a separate account. Also, activities installed by the user goes into the user's Activities directory. Finally, Sugar cannot and should not touch the user's

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO shut down target date? (was: licensing question)

2018-05-25 Thread Tony Anderson
. Tony On Saturday, 26 May, 2018 12:50 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 25 May 2018 at 00:47, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: ASLO provides access to Sugar activities (*.xo bundles). Ways in which users get Sugar is not relevant.

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO shut down target date? (was: licensing question)

2018-05-24 Thread Tony Anderson
ASLO provides acess to Sugar activities (*.xo bundles). Ways in which users get Sugar is not relevant. In my experience, XO users install Sugar from the images on laptop.org. For Ubuntu, I assume sudo apt-get install sucrose. SOAS is not live and the usb stick is built from the SOAS image

Re: [Sugar-devel] licensing question

2018-05-24 Thread Tony Anderson
. What we may lack, metric-wise, is what the version of Sugar on the client machine is. Is this encoded into the user agent of the custom browser, by chance? I assume not, but it's worth asking the question. Tony Anderson <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net> May 23, 2018 at 11:27 PM James Cam

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugarlabs/sugar-docs] Port to GTK+ 3 Guide (#149)

2018-05-24 Thread Tony Anderson
This link shows nothing of what was done. How is this version a better documentation of the conversion process than the original? Ideally, the Wiki speaks to our users and potential users. The gitHub speaks to developers. Perhaps this move is appropriate because the existing pages describe how

Re: [Sugar-devel] aslolite (was: ASLO shut down target date? (was: licensing question))

2018-05-24 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi Walter, I have been working on an alternative 'aslolite' to ASLO which will work on a schoolserver. This requires all of the activity bundles be local. Access is by a simple web interface  The entire aslolite is < 5GB. If this space were available somewhere online, I could share aslolite

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO shut down target date? (was: licensing question)

2018-05-24 Thread Tony Anderson
When 'deprecated', meaning a better alternative is available. This could be ASLOv3 when it is completed, fully tested and made available In other words, not 'real soon now'. Tony On Thursday, 24 May, 2018 11:26 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2018, 8:54 PM James Cameron

Re: [Sugar-devel] licensing question

2018-05-24 Thread Tony Anderson
James Cameron's devotion to alternate facts is what is amusing (actually sad). The only way Sugar users can access activities not already installed is by ASLO (unless we have some really carefully hidden source). Tony On Thursday, 24 May, 2018 08:54 AM, James Cameron wrote: Tony's insistence

Re: [Sugar-devel] licensing question

2018-05-23 Thread Tony Anderson
The bulk of the Sugar Activities were contributed through the ASLO process. This process assumes that the contributor is the copyright-holder. The contributor was asked to specify a license. Unfortunately that selection is not displayed on ASLO. Therefore, it is likely that the license clause

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar

2018-05-22 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Bastien Attached is a spreadsheet which shows the current status (subject to clerical error). Tony On Tuesday, 22 May, 2018 01:08 PM, Bastien wrote: Hi James and all, let me deliberately sidetrack the issue at stake with a larger issue which I'm curious about: what is the current

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugarlabs/ajedrez-activity] Adding A Suitable License (#1)

2018-05-22 Thread Tony Anderson
. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:51:16AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: Naturally it is easy to comment on what you haven't read. When you propose a change to practice - it certainly isn't going to match. Current practice finds us with almost 80 activities which have been ported to GTK3 and which

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugarlabs/ajedrez-activity] Adding A Suitable License (#1)

2018-05-21 Thread Tony Anderson
to these points from Tony, please let me know what you think. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:08:36AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: You repeated that I destroyed something. Ignoring commits does not mean there was destruction. I apologize again for my ignorance of the fact that people were developing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugarlabs/ajedrez-activity] Adding A Suitable License (#1)

2018-05-21 Thread Tony Anderson
vity available for Ubuntu Sugar, because it is in terrible shape. If someone were to maintain it, then I'd be a bit more interested. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 07:10:36AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: I really wish you would be a bit more careful with the facts. There was no repository for this activity, so i

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugarlabs/ajedrez-activity] Adding A Suitable License (#1)

2018-05-21 Thread Tony Anderson
I really wish you would be a bit more careful with the facts. There was no repository for this activity, so it is impossible that i destroyed anything. Why would you merge translations from one activity to another when neither has been ported to GTK3? Porting to GTK3 (no evidence that it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Response in Re: you needed Assistance

2018-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
is its own repo. All that is needed is to unzip the bundle, git init the folder, and add to github. This works because we don't have the concerns necessary when adding and changing the Sugar OS code. Tony On Saturday, 19 May, 2018 04:01 PM, Bastien wrote: Hi Tony, Tony Anderson &l

Re: [Sugar-devel] Response in Re: you needed Assistance

2018-05-18 Thread Tony Anderson
Sugar has two separate components: Sugar OS and Sugar activities. I don't believe anyone believes that the source code for Sugar OS should be anywhare a developer wants. Developers are free and should develop on their own repository often on their own development machine. The goal of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] FAQ on Sugarizer

2018-05-16 Thread Tony Anderson
At the cited meeting, I was prepared to update the status of activities on ASLO and github. However, there was no interest. A quick summary: There are 514 activities divided into three groups:     83  which have the current version from github installed on aslo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Where shall I start contributing?

2018-05-11 Thread Tony Anderson
So let's discourage his help. I would be happy to work with him on coming up with a reasonable protocol. Tony On Saturday, 12 May, 2018 11:52 AM, James Cameron wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 07:23:21AM +0530, Jaskirat Singh wrote: Hello ! One of the GSOC aspirant is working on the "Beginner

Re: [Sugar-devel] Where shall I start contributing?

2018-05-11 Thread Tony Anderson
the moment, and have nearly finished porting to GTK+ 3 and GStreamer 1.14. I've been at it on and off since 2016, and it has consumed most of my week. On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 08:30:58AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: I believe our immediate need is maintenance on ASLO (Acitivities.SugarLabs.org). It is goi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Where shall I start contributing?

2018-05-11 Thread Tony Anderson
I believe our immediate need is maintenance on ASLO (Acitivities.SugarLabs.org). It is going to take another day or two to complete reviewing the bundles from http://github.com/SugarLabs; however, it is evident that a large number have the name version number as the version on ASLO but are not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Chrome Books?

2018-05-09 Thread Tony Anderson
Except access to Ubuntu, Python, and Sugar. Tony On Wednesday, 09 May, 2018 01:47 PM, James Cameron wrote: Sugarizer is available now in the Chrome Web Store, there's no need to add Linux native app support. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting #2 of the project Setting up activity server.

2018-05-07 Thread Tony Anderson
preference is to remove from github.com/sugarlabs activities that can't be made to work in a reasonable time ... i.e. the past year. On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 01:50:29PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: Attahed is a spreadsheet inventory of the Sugar activities on ASLO. Except for clerical errors

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting #2 of the project Setting up activity server.

2018-05-06 Thread Tony Anderson
it return 'did not start'. Tony On Monday, 07 May, 2018 11:02 AM, Thomas Gilliard wrote: On 05/06/2018 07:17 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:00 PM Tony Anderson <t...@olenepal.org <mailto:t...@olenepal.org>> wrote: Hi, Walter Is there a link to a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting #2 of the project Setting up activity server.

2018-05-06 Thread Tony Anderson
should be done. Any volunteers to do it? Thought not. https://github.com/sugarlabs/browse-activity/issues/81 On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 09:20:08AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: I read the log and didn't see any discussion of either an activity server or a WikiPort. Most of the discu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting #2 of the project Setting up activity server.

2018-05-06 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Walter Is there a link to a description of the proposed new server? I assume that what you mean is that a new physical server will become host to ASLO. Naturally, I am much more interested in the capabilities of the service than the server. It is really hard for me to see any connection

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting #2 of the project Setting up activity server.

2018-05-06 Thread Tony Anderson
I read the log and didn't see any discussion of either an activity server or a WikiPort. Most of the discussion seems to focus on 'activity.info'. I interpret https://github.com/sugar-activities as an attempt to provide a separate place for Sugar activity repositories based on

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Project: Migration of Activities wiki-pages to GitHub

2018-05-05 Thread Tony Anderson
SugarLabs is our site to communicate with our users and prospective users. GitHub is our site to support SugarLabs development. In this meeting it is pointed out that maintaining two versions of the wikipages will be difficult (obvious, since we are unable to maintain even one). The evil word

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial tests of Sugar on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

2018-04-30 Thread Tony Anderson
can eliminate the storage cost of providing two versions of Sugar. Tony On Tuesday, 01 May, 2018 07:52 AM, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: On April 27, 2018 I downloaded the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial tests of Sugar on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

2018-04-30 Thread Tony Anderson
working on GTK2 porting. As far as the Ubuntu bug, it is on our radar. regards. -walter On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: On April 27, 2018 I downloaded the ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso. I generate

[Sugar-devel] Initial tests of Sugar on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

2018-04-30 Thread Tony Anderson
On April 27, 2018 I downloaded the ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso. I generated a boot usb drive with dd. The usb stick was used to install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS alongside Windows 10. Sugar was installed using sudo apt-get install sucrose. From http://activities.sugarlabs.org/activities, I scraped

Re: [Sugar-devel] Review Request of GSoC Proposal: Making a Beginner Guide

2018-03-26 Thread Tony Anderson
Is this a 'beginner' in the community of developers or a beginning user of Sugar? Tony On Monday, 26 March, 2018 09:09 AM, Pratul Kumar wrote: Hello, Thanks for the guidance, reviews and feedbacks. Kindly help me with the answer to one of the questions of "You and Community". Question:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Activity-Team] Request to review GSoC Proposal

2018-03-26 Thread Tony Anderson
As always, the question is the impact on our users. The traditional source of information for users is http://www.sugarlabs.org and http://www.laptop.org and, especially the wiki pages. The traditional source for activities is http://activities.sugarlabs.org (ASLO). So far the effect of gitHub

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Madagascar efforts of OLPC-FR, recently reported in English

2018-03-21 Thread Tony Anderson
Thank God, a post about educational use of Sugar! I was very depressed reading the list of proposed GSOC activities. Many of the projects relate to Musicblocks, a true educational development but which after several years of work is still not available to users on ASLO. Meanwhile, no GSOC

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Proposal] Sugarizer School Box - GSoC '18

2018-03-15 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi Rishabh Nambiar, The critical feature of your proposal is to provide a dedicated RPI method to make Sugarizer available to a classroom set of XOs via the ad hoc networks. Technical skills at a deployment are minimal so simplicity is vital. What is needed is an image which can be copied to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Impact of the Sugarizer School Box | Rishabh Nambiar |

2018-03-02 Thread Tony Anderson
This is exactly how the xsce server works so you may get valuable help from that community (xsce or iiab). A continuing issue is performance of the server in a classroom or school. One metric is the number of simultaneous connections the device can support (a classroom of 40-60 is not

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Journal: extend click selection in a range via shift key press

2018-03-01 Thread Tony Anderson
The original goal of the Sugar HIG was to move away from the desktop model and to make most functions available by clicking on icons. The Journal now requires nearly every action to be made by selection from a menu which is longer than most 'file' menus. First, a click on the icon should resume

Re: [Sugar-devel] critical vs pinned repositories, was New pull request reviewers; Rahul and Yash

2018-02-27 Thread Tony Anderson
This thread illustrates the crazy situation we have put ourselves in. Now we don't use github because we have too many repositories. The simple solution is to separate repositories into a Sugar collection and an Activity collection. The use of fructose (and honey,...) should be deprecated.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Migration from bugs.sugarlabs.org to Github

2017-12-16 Thread Tony Anderson
lude Sugar 0.112. I'll change my opinion if I see good evidence of testing. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 08:57:36AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: What I mean by version control in this context is that git can extract the source code matching the 0.110 release. This would enable bugs reported aga

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