Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-07-28 Thread Anish Mangal
The current implementation of the indicator that the paraguay builds use has static 'computer' icon for the frame. The palette menu displays the memory and cpu 'free' status by means of dynamically updating text-labels and progress bars. 1. Would it be worthwhile to have the frame icon

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-07-28 Thread Martin Abente
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:47:48 +0530, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: The current implementation of the indicator that the paraguay builds use has static 'computer' icon for the frame. The palette menu displays the memory and cpu 'free' status by means of dynamically updating

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 09:17:37AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Furthermore, what all system parameters should be made available through such a means (such as free memory, and cpu load)? Suggestions and opinions welcome! Time and date would be good. We've been there:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 07:55, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:18:31AM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 09:17 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: Time and date would be good. Good catch :-) I am not sure how important memory and cpu are to the average user but there's plenty of room in the frame at the moment. Any extra displayed data adds to the cognitive

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread Martin Abente
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:55:25 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 07:55, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:18:31AM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:55:25AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I would agree with James in that the amount of free memory is probably the most useful metric we can provide. Wonder if we could tie it graphically with activity launching. I propose a simple square icon with colour fill from bottom

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Anish Mangal
Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should be the ideal way to make these numbers available to the user. Perhaps an icon (or a set of icons) could be added to frame to graphically

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/15/2010 05:48 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should be the ideal way to make these numbers available to the user. That's a great question!

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 18:03 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió: I personally think that per-activity numbers are often more interesting than system-wide numbers. As such, I would associate the resource utilization statistics with each running activity's icon in the taskbar (top frame

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Frederick Grose
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: On 06/15/2010 05:48 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Abente
I think its an great and necessary idea. In the field, kids learn that the computer has limits only by the painful way. Last year, in our first 4000 laptops deployment, just a few dyas later, kids were complaining that la compu (the laptop) was dying. Only after seeing it happen we realized that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Abente
I think its an great and necessary idea. In the field, kids learn that the computer has limits only by the painful way. Last year, in our first 4000 laptops deployment, just a few dyas later, kids were complaining that la compu (the laptop) was dying. Only after seeing it happen we realized that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Abente
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:31:08 -0400, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: So, to keep the code and the UI simple enough, I'd propose starting with a very basic chip icon, whose palette would display two gauges representing an approximation of free memory and free cpu, computed from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread forster
Furthermore, what all system parameters should be made available through such a means (such as free memory, and cpu load)? Suggestions and opinions welcome! Time and date would be good. I am not sure how important memory and cpu are to the average user but there's plenty of room in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 19:13 -0400, Martin Abente escribió: On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:31:08 -0400, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: So, to keep the code and the UI simple enough, I'd propose starting with a very basic chip icon, whose palette would display two gauges representing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Paul Fox
[ cc: trimmed back to just the list ] bernie wrote: El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 19:13 -0400, Martin Abente escribió: On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:31:08 -0400, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: So, to keep the code and the UI simple enough, I'd propose starting with a very basic

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:18:31AM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should be the ideal way to make these numbers available to the user. Frame