Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-26 Thread Garrison Benson
Why no collaboration-like tube between activities? Are you referring to a tube strictly between two laptops (e.g. one student runs Measure and another runs a charting tool) or also in the case of two activities running concurrently on the same machine? -- View this message in context:

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-26 Thread Walter Bender
both -walter On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Garrison Benson benson.garri...@gmail.com wrote: Why no collaboration-like tube between activities? Are you referring to a tube strictly between two laptops (e.g. one student runs Measure and another runs a charting tool) or also in the case

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-25 Thread Walter Bender
The Measure activity is another approach to consider: data collection from multiple sources are shared and displayed in the same visualization space. -walter On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/3/23 Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 23,

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-25 Thread Walter Bender
The clipboard and the Journal are two recommended mechanisms. I would think that in the case of the Chart activity, the Journal would generally be more appropriate: you gather/generate some data in one activity, save to Journal, and then open the data file in Chart to explore various

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-25 Thread Eben Eliason
Seconding Walter...more inline. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: This whole thing brings to mind something that I've been curious about for awhile. What's the recommended way to transfer data between activities? Say, I record some data in Measure and

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-25 Thread Walter Bender
Interesting idea. I don't see why this couldn't work; I am not sure of the security implications, but I don't see why collaboration always has to be between two identical activities. -walter 2009/3/25 Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com: Why no collaboration-like tube between activities?   

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-25 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For the moment, I assume you are speaking of our current network collaboration technologies. Walter Bender wrote: Interesting idea. I don't see why this couldn't work; I am not sure of the security implications, but I don't see why collaboration

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-25 Thread Walter Bender
I thought Fred was getting at a much simpler idea. For example, Measure, when it is collaborating, is sending a simple data stream to each member of the collaboration. Why couldn't a chart program join in and instead of rendering the datastream as a waveform, it would render it as a piechart. Of

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-25 Thread Frederick Grose
Just thinking at the conceptual level. How about filtering irrelevant method calls and signals? How about a RESTful interface ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_State_Transfer)? I don't know. Just thinking... Thanks for contributing! --Fred On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:21 PM,

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-25 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Walter Bender wrote: I thought Fred was getting at a much simpler idea. For example, Measure, when it is collaborating, is sending a simple data stream to each member of the collaboration. Why couldn't a chart program join in and instead of

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-23 Thread Garrison Benson
Would someone be interested in mentoring me in this project? Also, a thought about collaboration: I think it would be quite useful to allow a group of students to share data and edit it collaboratively in real time. Students working on an experiment in class could each be assigned to collect a

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-23 Thread Jameson Quinn
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Garrison Benson benson.garri...@gmail.comwrote: Jameson Quinn wrote: Implementing a whole spreadsheet is a big enough chore. We do really care about collaboration, but I would advise you to limit your ambitions to something achievable, so worrying too

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-23 Thread Eben Eliason
2009/3/23 Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Garrison Benson benson.garri...@gmail.com wrote: Jameson Quinn wrote: Implementing a whole spreadsheet is a big enough chore. We do really care about collaboration, but I would advise you to limit your

[Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-22 Thread Garrison Benson
My name is Garrison Benson and I'm an undergraduate computer science student at Hope College in Holland, Michigan, USA. I'm interested in participating in Google Summer of Code and I'd like some feedback on my idea... I want to make a Sugar activity that will allow students to create charts and

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-03-22 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garrison Benson wrote: A traditional spreadsheet kind of interface would work (something like MS Excel or OO.o Calc) but I think a more basic, application-specific interface may be more accessible. Anyway, who's got comments or suggestions?