Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-16 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:33 PM, NoiseEHCnoise...@freemail.hu wrote: The real deal is that Android will be pushed by all the carriers and ARM vendors. In my humble opinion it will be the dominant phone OS in the future with even more hardware support the good thing is that android is based on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-16 Thread NoiseEHC
I think you do not get what is so special with Android. 1. They killed the braindamaged X driver model and put the driver where it belongs, the kernel. Just like Windows NT and OS-X already did. Finally it is fast and really supports hardware acceleration! Did I mention that it has redraw

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/6/16 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: I think you do not get what is so special with Android. 1. They killed the braindamaged X driver model and put the driver where it belongs, the kernel. Just like Windows NT and OS-X already did. Finally it is fast and really supports hardware

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: ===Sugar Digest=== 1. It seems that once per month the computer vs. phone debate reemerges. This time, http://edutechdebate.org/ has taken up the theme. Wayan Vota posed the question: Mobile Phones: Better Learning

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
Technologically the phone and the computer are quickly converging. They are just coming at the problem from different points of view. Phones focus on power consumption and size. Netbooks focus on screen size and general use computing. If the new ARM technology is as good inside devices as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they will add more languages, though. A more long term solution would be using PyPy, since it has significantly lower memory usage and better optimisation

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they will add more languages, though. Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities consists of 1000 lines of code. A more

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they will add more languages, though. Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could get them to at least say whether they're working on it?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could get them to at least say