suited for that UI I
guess. The main problem could have been that probably they had to use
Mesa3D and it provides approximately 1-2 frame/sec speed as my test
showed. You should ask them how that stuff turned out.
Some people (like NoiseEHC) have discussed writing a fast, simple 3D
library
Every help on the UI side welcome.
What I do not get is why there is that navigation bar under the toolbar?
It consumes a lot of space and has just that one button which was on the
toolbar before. (I just checked the last SoaS image so it appeared in
0.84 I guess). Also the old layout shows a
I think most of those effects can be just as easily be done by the 2D
engine (like what the Geode has). Of course it would need a LOT of
coding, like killing the stupid X driver model with the X server
process, using a compositing windows manager, rewriting GTK+ to use some
form of retained
Actually, GNOME 3.0 is moving into that direction (requiring OpenGL):
http://lwn.net/Articles/327845/
Hehe, seems like that I have just invented Clutter... :)
More seriously, it seems that Sugar just runs ahead of Gnome and
reinvents almost everything which will be created by Gnome people
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Today I've kick-started a newbie on building Sugar to fix a small bug
and submit his first patch.
It was just painful. jhbuild has plenty of rough corners and we could
easily make things easier with a few changes:
1) Stop checking out random unstable versions of
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
On 05/20/09 23:29, NoiseEHC wrote:
When I tried jhbuild what I found strange that it does not detect the
Linux distro so I had to manually enter commands as it was specified on
the wiki. Can we get rid of that? (I have no idea how to detect the
distro or how
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:40, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
On 05/20/09 23:29, NoiseEHC wrote:
When I tried jhbuild what I found strange that it does not detect the
Linux distro so I had to manually enter commands as it was specified on
the wiki. Can
Are there any plans to port Sugar to the XO-1 or will it be the job of
OLPC so it will be effectively abandoned?
Simon Schampijer wrote:
Attendees: Tomeu, Aleksey, Walter, Sayamindu, Simon
Retrospect: We have been brainstorming on the Goals of the 0.86 release.
The Output can be seen at
I hope this anwers your question,
Simon
Unfortunately it does not. What I wanted to know whether I will be able
to use the latest Sugar on my XO-1 ever. It boots the kernel with 802 so
it is a working Linux distribution. If somehow I copy the latest Sugar
over the old Sugar (0.82 I
I have tried the appliance image on VirtualBox.
On the registration form it crashed with some python? error (will look
the exact error if it is not a well known bug). It could be caused that
I clicked more than once to the Next button.
After that I only have an Automatic login user to choose
There are 3 different ideas when we are talking about Journal vs
Directories:
1. Whether we are limiting the user to use exactly one filtering
category for his/her documents (and lets call them Files and the filter
the Files' Directory) or we allow multiple filters (and call them Tags).
2.
Bryan Berry wrote:
http://static.boundvariable.com/space-invaders/
does most of the animation that we need using raphaeljs, which uses svg
and not canvas http://www.raphaeljs.com
Have you tried it on an XO? I just had this experience. Seems to me
that we will not do animation with js
Technologically the phone and the computer are quickly converging.
They are just coming at the problem from different points of view.
Phones focus on power consumption and size. Netbooks focus on screen
size and general use computing.
If the new ARM technology is as good inside devices as
My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible
language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they
will add more languages, though.
Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities
consists of 1000 lines of code.
A more
There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/
Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it.
Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could
get them to at least say whether they're working on it?
I think you do not get what is so special with Android.
1. They killed the braindamaged X driver model and put the driver where
it belongs, the kernel. Just like Windows NT and OS-X already did.
Finally it is fast and really supports hardware acceleration! Did I
mention that it has redraw
Could you please name those items in English?
I suggest this because probably Karma is one of the most important
things from an educational viewpoint because it will allow developing
curriculum in a totally open way. I mean it will allow teachers to avoid
locking teaching materials even into
A possible solution for 2.
The catalog file should be a .html file with file:// links to the USB drive.
If the kid opens the .html file in Browse and clicks on the link then it
will be copied to the Journal and opened in Read.
The .html file can have pictures.
The only criterium is that the
In June I was talking with the headmaster of a school which does
education research. There are two things from that discussion that seems
relevant for this question:
1. Karma could measure the time it takes to finish a task in a compound
exercise. If it is statistically relevant then it could
ps:
I intend to use Karma for interactive curriculum development for
reasons Bryan Berry talked about a lot.
Awesome! How can we involve you more? is it time to for us to open a
mailing list specific to karma? like sugar-ka...@l.s.o ?
u can find christoph, myself, and the ole nepal
Exactly what is the problem that this solution wants to solve? I mean
that is not the teacher who selects from the lessons depending on her
personal lesson plan? (Of course we could provide a default lesson plan
but in the end it is up to the teacher what she wants to teach and in
what order.)
So accessing the frame in ebook mode - is probably not something you do in
your ebook workflow (at least on an olpc without touchpad support).
Correct - and dedicating a frame button on the tablet mode is probably
something I would not do (we don't have too many buttons accessible in
Hi!
It could be a little bit off topic and can be totally irrelevant because
of the difference between education systems, but have you considered a
possibility to generate lesson plans, examples and questions from a wiki?
I mean that it is a lot of work to create a coherent lesson structure
Mmm, I'm not sure how realistic it is for people to be interested in
providing that kind of data... But I could be wrong.
When I was visiting my elementary school there was a biology teacher who
took teaching biology very seriously. Computer technology was in its
infancy at that time so he
- Automatic assessment is snake oil, Bryan is well intentioned but
deeply wrong. See the earlier email at
http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg05584.html
Or you are wrong. Since you did not define exactly what you have meant
by assessment in your message, I
Okay, a little holiday happened with me and then had to read through
100+ olpc emails and then realized that there is a spam filter on my
email which blocked sugar emails since july so it took some time to
catch up but here I am... :)
Martin Langhoff wrote:
2009/8/19 NoiseEHC noise
Hi!
I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely
hypothetical_ case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the paper
cut criteria?
Since I am porting (very slowly since 2 months ago I did not know
anything at all about the Linux boot process for example) Android to the
It seems that I cannot stop myself killing some kittens:
As I see the problem is that the DS wants to solve a lot of problems in
a general way. I think that this is simply impossible. A lot of
companies tried to create some general storage abstraction other that
files, but all of them failed
You are not explaining why this will happen, so this point is moot.
The reason is that it seems that it is impossible to do. I just
extrapolated historical data.
So we're indexing the data automatically, but we still don't have a
datastore? Please explain how that would work.
The
Besides, the assumption that VCS-style deltas will work well with the
binary files stored by most Sugar activities is... wishful at best.
A design working in real-world scenarios would probably require ad-hoc
deltifiers for each file format, making it very complex, slow and
fragile.
After making tests [1] in deployments for start new
vs. resume we concluded that the way activity starting works on the
iPhone would probably work well in Sugar, too [2].
Hehe, this is exactly the thing you would get with per-activity
datastores. Guess what, Android does this too. :)
Sugar has a similar mechanism. From the Low-level Activity API docs:
org.laptop.Activity.SetActive(b: active)
Activate or passivate an activity. This is sent when switching activities,
there is only one active activity at a time, all others are passive. A
passive activity must immediately
We used to do that, the problem is that we don't control our platform
as Google controls Android and you need to make sure that resources
that need to be specific of each child process aren't shared (dbus and
X connections, etc).
I'm personally more interested in reducing the amount of
You could just make the new tab show the home url by default.
On 2010.10.19. 6:15, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 03:01 +0100, Gary Martin wrote:
Alternatively, the new tab button could become a small plus on the tab
bar, which could be made visible at all times. For how long
About pane has a psychological effect, it provides recognition and
maybe a sense of ownership for developers and mantainers. I will
propose it on sugar-devel and the HIG once I've implemented a design.
Also it gives a starting point for eventually getting involved in the
development and
The biggest finding that came from outside this thread is that if
Browse is to move to pygi to access webkit, the Sugar python bits that
it uses must also be gtk3/pygi. No mixing with pygtk2 is possible. So
we have a prerequisite on sugar (or at least parts of it?) being moved
to gtk3/pygi
Unless you are proposing that all of Sugar moves to C as a base; that
may have its merits but is a separate discussion, and not one I'm
going to get involved with. Feel free to start a new thread / Feature
page.
I am not proposing anything. I just showed an option that no one
considered. I
Hi!
build worked as it pulled all repos. I thought that it is a connection
problem because some days ago there was a connection problem. I just
wanted to archive sugar-build just after pulling all the stuff as I
really did not want to download ~450 megs again and again as I try
different
On 07/10/2013 18:41, David Farning wrote:
Activity Central supports the recent HTML5 + JS work that is going
into sugar .100. It has the potential to take the OLPC vision to any
device which runs a browser while simultaneously *increasing* the
potential activity *developer* *pool* by several
://github.com/NoiseEHC/sugar-webkit-native
It requires a yum install webkitgtk3-devel to be able to compile,
unfortunately my XO-1.75 says that there are no more mirrors to try for
mesa and libdrm dependencies so I could not try it under an ARM XO... (I
did try it some time ago however it just stopped
I have put the ?latest? sources here:
https://github.com/NoiseEHC/sugar-webkit-native
It requires a yum install webkitgtk3-devel to be able to compile,
unfortunately my XO-1.75 says that there are no more mirrors to try
for mesa and libdrm dependencies so I could not try it under an ARM
XO
On 22/10/2013 21:21, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
So that was my $0.02. Obviously it can be too late to change plans
but who knows. I have uploaded the source anyway so you can use it
if you want.
What I really don't understand is, if is all that easy why not be
involved and help?
Hi!
Just to prove that it can be done, I have hacked a little bit more on
the native HTML activity which can be found here:
https://github.com/NoiseEHC/sugar-webkit-native
I tried to create virtual pages by using WebKit1's or Soap's url
rewriting callbacks but it turns out that no matter
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