Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: [Clock behaviour in suspend] But I take your point...the answer is: no, it's not easy (with my simple patch). I'm not sure what the behavior should be (hide on idle?!, come out of suspend once a minute?!), really. With the XO

Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing the 'Erase' options from activity righ click menu

2009-05-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[adding sugar-devel to cc] On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:32, nout...@paiwastoon.com.af wrote: Greetings all, I am new to the whole OLPC thing so please bear with me. We are using the standard build to install XOs and then use shell scripts for the localization and to make small changes. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread pgf
sascha wrote: On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: [Clock behaviour in suspend] But I take your point...the answer is: no, it's not easy (with my simple patch). I'm not sure what the behavior should be (hide on idle?!, come out of suspend once a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing the 'Erase' options from activity righ click menu

2009-05-03 Thread Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
This is a recurrent problem. Perhaps we should have an option in the control panel to enable/disable the showing of the Erase option for activities or make moving the Erase option a few more clicks away (perhaps inside the control panel, the activity updater widget/code might be reusable). Basir:

[Sugar-devel] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-03 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
hello, So, talking to Tomeu, we agreed that for Write and Read using the gtkprint would be best as both support it as a printing API. Now, the current plan is: 1) We do journal printing only, albeit, the respective activity opens the file. Now here a cross road is presented: 1) Do we use a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread Jameson Quinn
Well, if the frame always auto-hid after 10 seconds, and the delay for idle-suspend was 15 seconds, then it would work. I personally believe that the frame should be hidden more agressively - whenever there's a user action that doesn't address it, and after a longish timeout around 10 seconds. In

Re: [Sugar-devel] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-03 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
The usecases would be as following: The user, John, creates a document and saves it to his journal one fine day. The next day john transfers that journal item to his friend's XO the next day. His friend, Kennedy, has his XO set up in a moodle environment. Kennedy when in school decides to send

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread pgf
jameson wrote: Well, if the frame always auto-hid after 10 seconds, and the delay for idle-suspend was 15 seconds, then it would work. I personally believe that the frame should be hidden more agressively - whenever there's a user action that doesn't address it, and after a longish timeout

Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing the 'Erase' options from activity righ click menu

2009-05-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 May 2009, at 13:59, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés wrote: This is a recurrent problem. Perhaps we should have an option in the control panel to enable/disable the showing of the Erase option for activities or make moving the Erase option a few more clicks away (perhaps inside the control

Re: [Sugar-devel] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-03 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
== Use cases == 1.- John has written an essay in Write about sharks and would like to print it right now on a printer plugged via USB to his computer. John does this by hitting the print button in write, and selecting 'usb printing' as destination in the dialog which pops up. He then selects

[Sugar-devel] New Activity: ShareTerm-1

2009-05-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This e-mail is to announce a new Sugar Activity: ShareTerm. ShareTerm is a variant of Terminal designed to enable collaborative work at the command prompt. How To Use It: 1. Install the bundle from: http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/ShareTerm-1.xo 2.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
Vamsi Krishna Davuluri writes: So, talking to Tomeu, we agreed that for Write and Read using the gtkprint would be best as both support it as a printing API. The focus on Write and Read is short sighted and may lead to inflexible solutions. Now, the current plan is: 1) We do journal

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03

2009-05-03 Thread Walter Bender
===Sugar Digest=== I encourage you to join two threads on the Education List this week: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-April/005382.html, which has boiled down to an instruction vs construction debate; and http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-April/005342.html, which has

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:01:14AM -0400, p...@laptop.org wrote: sascha wrote: On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: [Clock behaviour in suspend] But I take your point...the answer is: no, it's not easy (with my simple patch). I'm not sure what the

[Sugar-devel] [KARMA] don't need an ide for js

2009-05-03 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, i am pretty darn blown away by how useful firebug is check out this tutorial http://www.evotech.net/blog/2007/06/introduction-to-firebug/ and the intro pages here: http://www.getfirebug.com i don't see myself using aptana or another special ide. firebug + emacs are a perfect fit. --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:17:05AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:01:14AM -0400, p...@laptop.org wrote: given martin's point about the battery level, wireless strength, etc, all becoming stale as well, perhaps the best fix would be to always hide the frame during

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 05:36:12PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:49:05AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: I think Sugar should only officially support a clock in the devices tray. What FRAME_RELATIVE_POSITION would you like it in? [clock should be HH:MM with

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Dengler wrote: Anybody have any great ideas about how to solve the problem of what to do just before power management dims/blanks the screen, and how we would want to be notified of that? IMHO, effort is best spent moving the suspend

Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing the 'Erase' options from activity righ click menu

2009-05-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 nout...@paiwastoon.com.af wrote: After our first deployment here in Afghanistan, we had to reinstall a lot of laptops because students accidentally deleted most of their activities. I think this is a great example of why we need to make a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

2009-05-03 Thread Jameson Quinn
Anything else is just hacks on top of hacks. I disagree. Personally, I think auto-hiding the frame after a delay is a clean solution that's desirable anyway. But I do agree that the decision of whether to hide the frame or not should not be based on stopped clocks. Jameson

Re: [Sugar-devel] [KARMA] don't need an ide for js

2009-05-03 Thread Felipe López Toledo
Hi Bryan i don't see myself using aptana or another special ide. firebug + emacs are a perfect fit. yes, you're right! my early reason to use aptana was fast coding through the html assistant, highlight and auto completion tool. one of the *good* things of aptana is the inclusion (choose) of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-03 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Sunday 03 May 2009 06:29:26 pm Albert Cahalan wrote: Vamsi Krishna Davuluri writes: So, talking to Tomeu, we agreed that for Write and Read using the gtkprint would be best as both support it as a printing API. The focus on Write and Read is short sighted and may lead to inflexible