Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-06 Thread Edley McKnight
Hi Gordon and mirror folk, I just thought that someone might know the oil they use to cover the mercury with so that it could be experimented with in the ceiling sundial situation in order to have a safer flat, level mirror. But thanks for the info, that is interesting. I've visited both

Re: Jefferson replica

2002-01-06 Thread wild-mallards
Fred, A place to start should be: www.monticello.org/press/sundial.html Best, Bill Maddux Received the following today. Can anyone help Scott Vincent? Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dear Mr. Sawyer: Can you direct me to the artisan who reproduced

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread J Lynes
Thanks, Fer. Apologies all round, and especially to Anselmo. I now think his proposal would work after all. But only in the winter months. At noon at the equinox the reflected beam would be vertically above the mirror. During the summer months the beam would be reflected south of the

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-06 Thread Edley McKnight
Hi John, I agree that some leveling surface like your idea of a mercury pool with the mirror on it would easily give a very level mirror for the traditional ceiling dial. Again, using a container large enough that the area for the mirror is free of meniscus is a good idea. Since we were

17th c. Oxford

2002-01-06 Thread harriet
Dear Diallists, I have been researching the history of two vertical sundials on the south-eastern buttress of the 17th c. chapel at Wadham College, Oxford and wonder if any of you have come across any reference to them. The College authorities are interested in restoring them. All that remains

room meridian

2002-01-06 Thread walter.jonckheere
hello every body, in an ancient book called roret de l'horloger rhabilleur a simple method is described for obtaining the meridian inside a room with a window facing south. First, you have to determine the meridian outside on the principle of a horizontal dial allowing reading of the solar noon

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-06 Thread Steve Lelievre
John Carmichael suggested floating the mirror in mercury to level it, and then Dave Bell pointed out that the clean surface of the mercury could be the mirror. Since mercury is a bit of a problem to work with, could a dish of water serve instead? In John's case, he just needs the mirror to be

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-06 Thread Tony Moss
John Carmichael contributed: But something tells me that even this method could be riddled with errors. (i.e.. what if you give ZW2000 the wrong information because your measurement of the ceiling height was 2 mm. off? Or, will the glass cover on the floating mirror refract the sunspot?) I

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread Luke Coletti
I thought I might share a simple drawing (URL below) that illustrates Anselmo's idea. In the drawing the Sun is on the Equator so the angle of the Solar rays onto the respective surfaces (polar dial plate and ceiling) is 90deg. However, it can be seen that this relation holds throughout

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread fer j. de vries
Hi John, There are several limitations to concider but the principle still is true. The problems you mention occur at latitudessmaller then47 degrees. The max. altitude of the sun h = 90 - phi + 23.5 degrees. The inclination of the mirror i = 0.5 phi We search for the latitude where

Monitor Shut Down Problems

2002-01-06 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hello Tony: Starting a couple of days ago my monitor has gone into the power saver mode at random times and the only way to recover is to reboot. The screen is black and the power light changed from green to yellow. The problem only occurs during browsing and most frequently during operations

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-06 Thread Gordon Uber
More information on mercury liquid mirror telescopes. Mercury mirror with Mylar film overlay http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s64751.htm On one web page automobile motor oil was suggested in lieu of mercury. I have not been able to find the overlay liquid used by the Canadian

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread fer j. de vries
Hi Luke, I copied your drawing and I am glad you made a drawing for a latitude lower then 47 degrees. I added in red the sun's beam at noon at summer solstice and you may see that the beam is reflected in the wrong direction as John wrote. The grey line between is the normal to the mirror's

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread Luke Coletti
Hello Fer, I made the drawing for my Lat (approx. 36 degs.) and was able to notice that for my location a complete coverage couldn't be obtained but I hadn't gone further to find where (or if) this limitation disappears, so thank you for doing so. The image you sent says it all, this has

Was Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-06 Thread Dave Bell
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, fer j. de vries wrote: The max. altitude of the sun h = 90 - phi + 23.5 degrees. This reminded me of something I saw recently, that was a bit of a puzzle: I live at 37.3N latitude. This puts the mean plane of the Ecliptic at something like 52.7 degrees elevation. Near the