Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-23 Thread Gianni Ferrari
Hello Keith, perhaps you may find some news here http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Dies.html Best wishes Gianni 2008/8/22 Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank King scripsit: Equal hours were not, though, used for governing ordinary life. As

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-23 Thread Roger Bailey
Google quickly finds pictures and information on the Braunschweig Cathedral sundial. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Braunschweig,_Dom_St._Blasii_mit_Sonnenuhr.jpg The pictures show a dial with the words Anno 1716 across the top. A text reference identifies Hans Geog Hartel with the

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-23 Thread Willy Leenders
Yuo can find a better picture on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Bild:Braunschweiger_Dom_kleine_Sonnnenuhr.JPG Willy LEENDERS Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium) www.wijzerweb.be Op 23-aug-08, om 19:35 heeft Roger Bailey het volgende geschreven: Google quickly finds pictures and information on

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-23 Thread Frank King
Dear Roger, Yes, it is easy to get the wrong sundial when looking at Braunschweig Cathedral!! The bigger (17th century?) dial has recently been restored and I have in front of me a newspaper cutting which explains: Die Kosten von rund 700,000 Euro werden von der Dombaustiftung und von

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-23 Thread Frans W. Maes
Dear all, The DGC catalog mentions 4 sundials on the Braunschweig cathedral. The discussion does not refer to the 'new' ones from 1518 and 1715, but to two older ones, from about 1334 and about 1346. The hour line patterns (attached) show two ways of playing around with the lines, in the

Re: AW: Missouri Ottoman Sundial

2008-08-23 Thread Mario Arnaldi
4. BYZANTINE HOURS NOTE : Rhor in his book Sundial, Italian edition, in pag. 110 says that in the monasteries of Mount Athos still use the julian calendar and the temporary hours ??? - Mr Karlheinz Schaldach during his travels in Greece has been on

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-23 Thread Mario Arnaldi
Dear Willi and Roger, that sundial is not the one that Severino means. It is older. Mario - Mario Arnaldi Via Cavour, 57/c 48100 Ravenna Italy Lat. 44° 25' N - Lon. 12° 12' E Redazione di GNOMONICA ITALIANA rivista di storia,

Re: Missouri Ottoman Sundial

2008-08-23 Thread schaldachk
Yes, Mario, I have been there twice: the monks use two time systems. For their daily work they have the normal Greek time, but for their services they do as if they use the temporal hours: the night services are longer in winter time than in summer time. Karlheinz 4. BYZANTINE HOURS NOTE :

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-23 Thread Mario Arnaldi
Frank King scripsit: Equal hours were not, though, used for governing ordinary life. - This is not quite right. Equal hours were not used from common people in their ordinary life, but used for civil porpouses. Censorinus and Gellius citing Varro say that in Rome the day

Re:Fwd: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Schaldach wrote: Dear Frank, we should recognized that sundials were found from Hellenistic and Roman times with polar-oriented gnomons. Yes, I can confirm this. I found a complete horizontal sundial (unknowed to Gibbs catalogue) from Pompei, on 2005. This have temporary hours and an