Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Michael Ossipoff
By “auto-correction”, I refer modification of the dial, so that it will directly read Local-True-Solar-Time (LTST) at your latitude at your standard-meridian instead of where the dial is. … Auto-correcting for longitude by rotating & tipping the dial is a “retrofit” longitude auto-correction, as

Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread koolish
Depending on your choice of rotation axes, only two rotations are needed, one for the elevation of the pole and one around the gnomon for longitude correction. These are the two that correspond to the actual changes needed. If you are using the three orthogonal x, y, and z axes, then three

Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread koolish
Assuming that a dial should read only local solar time is a rather limited view. While it might be of interest to the dial purist, it is not particularly useful to the general population and often requires a lot of explanation. And it makes us seem like an eccentric clique. The dial produces a

Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Steve Lelievre
At a new location, a dial must end up with the style parallel to the polar axis - but how do you achieve that using a wedge? Assuming you start with the dial at the new location on a horizontal surface with the sub-stile line on the local meridian, the required sequence is to rotate it about

Fwd: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Michael Ossipoff
-- Forwarded message - From: Michael Ossipoff Date: Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 09:53 Subject: Re: Adjusting dial to new location To: The combination of rotation about the vertical axis, & then non-meridianal tipping, hadn’t occurred to me. …to directly read the Local True Solar Time

Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Michael Ossipoff
The public stationary sundial in my town is mounted normally for Local True Solar Time. It’s correction-plaque gives un-adjusted EqT, with an instruction to add a certain number of minutes for the longitude-correction. On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 17:26 Steve Lelievre wrote: > You don’t need two

Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Michael Ossipoff
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 08:45 wrote: > Rotating the dial plate around a vertical axis is wrong because the hours > lines are not at constant angles. > > Rotating the whole dial around the polar axis is the correct way to adjust > a local solar time dial to a different longitude, the time zone

Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread koolish
Rotating the dial plate around a vertical axis is wrong because the hours lines are not at constant angles. Rotating the whole dial around the polar axis is the correct way to adjust a local solar time dial to a different longitude, the time zone center, for example. Having a dial show the

RE: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Jack Aubert via sundial
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Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Rod Wall
Hi Steve, I use to be a member of the NASS but I am retired now. And due to funds I was not able to renew my membership. So I don't have access to Fred Sawyer's and Bill Gottesman's article. Maybe the Article and the drawing of the Earth with sundials could be used to explain this?

Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Rod Wall
Hi all, Is the Sundial Mailing list able to accept images? Below is how we can understand how sundials work. A sundial is a mechanical clock. Sundials are geared to the largest clock in the world, Earth. Look at it from a mechanical point of view on a spinning Earth. Draw the earth and cut

Re: Adjusting dial to new location

2023-04-04 Thread Rod Wall
Hi all, This link I think is a good way of showing. How we can understand how sundials work. A sundial is a mechanical clock. Sundials are geared to the largest clock in the world, Earth. Look at it from a mechanical point of view on a spinning Earth. Draw the earth and cut out paper