Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-23 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
Hi Rodger, Thanks for the discretion. Best regards, Roderick Wall. - Reply message - From: "Roger" To: "rodwall1...@gmail.com" , "Michael Ossipoff" Cc: "sundial list" Subject: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Date: Mon, Jul 23, 20

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-22 Thread Roger
= a (Cos Lat) squared. Publication as an article? Not if it takes 30 x 1000 words! Regards, Roger Bailey Walking Shadow Designs From: rodwall1...@gmail.com Sent: July 21, 2018 1:59 PM To: Michael Ossipoff; Roger Cc: sundial list Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Hi Rodger

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-21 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
es a 1,000 words. There also maybe teachers in this group who also find it hard to follow. They might want to use this method in their classroom. Thank, Roderick Wall. - Reply message - From: "Michael Ossipoff" To: "Roger" Cc: "sundial list" Su

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-21 Thread Ian Maddocks
docks Chester, UK 53°11'50"N 2°52'41"W From: Roger Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:32 PM To: Jack Aubert ; 'Michael Ossipoff' ; 'sundial list' Subject: RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Hi Jack and Michael, I don’t agree. The concept is very simple. Per

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-19 Thread Jack Aubert
-koeln.de Cc: Jack Aubert Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? This reminds of an interview I read somewhere, with a former RAF instructor who taught survival navigation techniques for downed fighter pilots - no GPS or compass, just sun and stars. He said that one

Epistemology was: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-19 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: There's an excellent TED talk: http://www.ted.com/talks/david_deutsch_a_new_way_to_explain_explanation?language=en The best explanation is the one currently accepted by science. This pointed me to many books by Karl Popper and was the root cause of the two axioms below my signature on this

Epistemology was: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-19 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: There's an excellent TED talk: http://www.ted.com/talks/david_deutsch_a_new_way_to_explain_explanation?language=en The best explanation is the one currently accepted by science. This pointed me to many books by Karl Popper and was the root cause of the two axioms below my signature on this

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-19 Thread Steve Lelievre
This reminds of an interview I read somewhere, with a former RAF instructor who taught survival navigation techniques for downed fighter pilots - no GPS or compass, just sun and stars. He said that one of frustrating parts of his job was that with every new class he had to un-teach the idea

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Ossipoff
s are interested in > such an extracurricular activity. Perhaps that is the value of a > analemmatic sundial installation at a school would be to stimulate interest. > > > > Regards, Roger Bailey > > Walking Shadow Designs > > > > *From: *Jack Aubert > *Sent: *J

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
Hi Roger and Mitchael, I'm sure others have thought of and have used these concepts before us. Sundials have been around for a long time. What these concepts achieves are: That all clocks have a energy source to make them work. For sundials it is the rotation of Earth. And that planet Earth

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread Jack Aubert
. Jack From: Roger Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:32 PM To: Jack Aubert ; 'Michael Ossipoff' ; 'sundial list' Subject: RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Hi Jack and Michael, I don’t agree. The concept is very simple. Perhaps you have had

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Ossipoff
When I mentioned (at least hypothetically) a mechanical method and an empirical method for constructing a Reclining-Declining Dial, they were intended as ways to assure someone that s/he knows of a way that such a dial can be constructed. (I feel that it's unsatisfying to own, use, or visit a

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Yes, the central-gnomon Equatorial dials, with their gnomon parallel to the Earth's axis, and their circular measuring-scale parallel to plane of the equator is educational, because its measurement of Solar Time is completely direct. And yes, you're quite right: The construction of the Horizontal

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Roger
Bailey Walking Shadow Designs From: rodwall1...@gmail.com Sent: July 17, 2018 4:14 PM To: Michael Ossipoff; Steve Lelievre Cc: sundial list Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Hi all, The following is what I think is the best way to describe how sundials work to kids or anyone

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Roger
that is the value of a analemmatic sundial installation at a school would be to stimulate interest. Regards, Roger Bailey Walking Shadow Designs From: Jack Aubert Sent: July 17, 2018 6:27 AM To: 'Michael Ossipoff'; 'sundial list' Subject: RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? I very much agree

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
Hi all, The following is what I think is the best way to describe how sundials work to kids or anyone. 1st start with the largest sundial in the world. Planet Earth the Master sundial clock. Stick a vertical stick into the ground at the South pole or North pole. And describe how the shadow

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Astrovisuals
so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of sundial digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? (Jack Aubert) 2. Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? (Michae

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Steve Lelievre
Sure, any type of dial is fine if it works for the situation. And apologies to all for the typos in my last message. I think my PC had auto-obfuscate turned on. Steve On 2018-07-17 11:07 AM, Michael Ossipoff wrote: Insisting on limiting it to central-gnomon Equatorials sounds unfair to

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Michael Ossipoff
st all adults. >> >> >> >> Jack >> >> >> >> *From:* sundial *On Behalf Of *Michael >> Ossipoff >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:29 AM >> *To:* sundial list >> *Subject:* Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? >

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Steve-- Alright, acknowledged. But, even so, why not instead have a class design and build a dial whose construction-derivation would be of interest to them. ...or even build, or have it built, for them. ...such as any central-gnomon Equatorial, or any Flat Dial that's Horizontal, Vertical or

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Steve Lelievre
An analemmatic dial is more considered more interesting than other kinds because it is somewhat interactive, but I agree that it is a little harder to understand. To me though, installing a sundial at a school isn't just about, or even primarily about, the teaching of the mechanics of how it

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:29 AM > *To:* sundial list > *Subject:* Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? > > > > > > To continue something that I started before: > > > > The derivation of the construction of the Analemmatic could be explaine

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Jack Aubert
Of Michael Ossipoff Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:29 AM To: sundial list Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? To continue something that I started before: The derivation of the construction of the Analemmatic could be explained to anyone, with 3 lesson-sessions, over 3 days

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-16 Thread Michael Ossipoff
To continue something that I started before: The derivation of the construction of the Analemmatic could be explained to anyone, with 3 lesson-sessions, over 3 days. Yes, an Analemmatic Dial could be educational, when it gives people incentive to study, read about or listen to the dial's

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-12 Thread Michael Ossipoff
If I may correct a small error in something that I said: I said: > That's easily remedied by having additional apertures at the 6 am & pm > positions, with a few separate special hour-lines for use with those > aperatures. I'd make those 6-o'clock apertures double, to make them >

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-12 Thread Michael Ossipoff
I've just realized that I mis-spelled "aperture". I don' t know why I added the extra "a". Michael Ossipoff On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Michael Ossipoff wrote: > > As Hunt pointed out, there might be many locations where an Anelematic is > the only dial that won't be stolen or

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-12 Thread Michael Ossipoff
As Hunt pointed out, there might be many locations where an Anelematic is the only dial that won't be stolen or vandalized. And I like it. But I'd consider it a last-resort, to be used only when a previous dial has been stolen or vandalized. That's because I prefer sundials whose

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-11 Thread William Irvine
Thanks to the people who responded, either direct to this Mailing List - or had E-mailed to me privately, with their own comments. Based on those replies, I contacted "Sunclocks" to ask why their price was so low (compared with the people acting as Distributors for them) - as well as why they

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-09 Thread fritzstumpges
-Original Message- From: sundial On Behalf Of William Irvine Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 7:15 AM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Now that I am retired, I have been thinking about turning my 'hobby' of sundials into an income source

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-09 Thread Frank King
Dear Bill, Sunclocks are genuine. Some people are very enthusiastic about them, others are not. You have almost certainly seen a Sunclocks dial without realising it. They have an interesting business model... If you want a sundial you are given several options: 1. Buy a full set of

Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-09 Thread William Irvine
Now that I am retired, I have been thinking about turning my 'hobby' of sundials into an income source - as there are obviously several successful businesses who are already doing it, around the world. I had typed 'making money from sundials' into the "Google" search engine, and one of the