Dear Willy and all,
The hour lines still (partly) visible were laid out as a millennium
project. An earlier project was started in 1939, but was interrupted by
the beginning of World War II. It is interesting to note that some
traces of those hour lines are still visible; in the attached
Some further details about the Obelisk sundial :
http://www.cadrans-solaires.org/gb/vuduciel.html
cheers
François Blateyron
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From: Willy Leenders
To: Sundial sundiallist
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: Place de la Concorde on Google
Hi John all,
The nail heads you saw are not from the reconstruction of the Paris meridian
by the Dutch artist Jan Dibbets, as this runs through the Observatory of
Paris and passes through the Louvre Museum, a kilometer or so east of Place
de la Concorde. See
Hi all,
With all respect to those who have commented on the subject of the 1939
inscription in the Place de la Concorde, Paris I'm not sure if this
contribution will add to the debate on the inscription or not but I have been
doing a little, very superficial, research on the subject and have
The mystery concerning the disc with the incription AU LEVANT THE THEBES
SURGIT A PARIS LE NORD on the 12-hour line of the sundial with the obelisk as
gnomon, at the Place de la Concorde in Paris becomes more intricate.
Denis Savoie, President of the Commission of Sundials in the Astronomic
Bill,
Could it be possible to read: A LA MANIERE DU LEVANT DE THEBES SURGIT A
PARIS LE NORD?
(In the same way that civilisation arised in Thebes, it has resurged -or
resurges now- in Paris).
Do you know the date of this inscription? I think the words Levant and
Nord has been carefully chosen
Maybe it's a message from the RATP with just a few letters wrong.
It actually should say:
Au levant, du Barbès (on) surgit à Paris Nord
But seriously, I did forward this query to a French History mailing list
I subscribe to and am waiting for some response from there. (All
the history Professors
at the right side before the entrance.
The obelisk at the left side of the entrance is still there.
Thibaud Chabot
At 12:56 23-09-2003, you wrote:
The Place de La Concorde was constructed under the July Monarchy between
1936 and 1846 and an obelisk of Ramses II sent back from Luxor by
Barry N. Wainwright wrote:
From a Frenchman:
Levant has two meanings: sunset and East
Not sunset, but sunrise, as was indeed corrected below:
I understand the sentence as:
"In Paris, the north rises at the East (or sunrise) of Thebes"
And a third (now not so common anymore)
Jack,
I admire your efforts to find a good explanation of the inscription
"au levant de Thebes surgit a Paris le nord" on the 12-hour line of the
sundial at the Place de la Concorde in Paris.
Your statement "the Obelisk itself, which is oriented along with the
whole Place on a north-south axis
on the Concorde either... It
could be related.
Corentin
--
Barry
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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 02:44:51 +0100
To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: Place de la Concorde
Hi Willy,
I
Title: Re: Place de la Concorde
In the middle of august I sent the
subjoined question.
I received no answer.
Maybe everybody was on holiday.
I repeat the question.
At the Place de la Concorde in Paris, on the meridian passing
through
the footh of the obelisk from the temple of Ramses II
Hi Willy,
I don't understand your translation of the phrase. Where do you get 'east'
from? From what I remember of my schoolboy French the word for 'east'
is 'est'. Further:
levant = raising (verbe);or
levant = rising (adjectif, adverbe);
surgir = to arise (verbe).
nord = north (adjectif,
I have inserted the pages on Rafael Soler's dials
(see http://www.relojesdesol.org/soler.html) the
locations of most of the dials, as some of you asked.
Dr Soler told me that there are people
trying to convince the local authorities to create a
Sundial Trail in Majorica, provided that in that
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