Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-07 Thread Gino Schiavone
Steve, Your simplified approach to the mirror problem is refreshing. The vessel would need to be attached in a way that kept it stationary frustrating if a wine glass were used. But I like the image of pouring an offering to the dial, or the sun, in order to make a reading. I may have missed

Off topic (but interesting nevertheless)

2002-01-07 Thread The Shaws
Extract from The Daily Telegraph (Letters to the Editor): Back and Forth SIR - It might be worth pointing out that the year 2002 consists of a palindrome, being the same backward as forwards. Palindromic years occur normally only once in 110 years (as in 1661,1771,1881, etc). However, at the

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2002-01-07 Thread alexei.pace
20/02/2002 2002/20/02 Alexei Pace malta

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2002-01-07 Thread BillGottesman
In a message dated 1/7/2002 5:59:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is also worth recording that many of us also experienced the year 1961, which reads the same when viewed normally or upside down; an inverted palindrome, perhaps? There have only been three other

high altitude moon

2002-01-07 Thread Frank Evans
Greetings fellow dialists, Dave Bell suggested that the moon was recently seen at a a suspiciously high angle in the sky when he came out of a cinema (yes, he said it was a cinema) near midnight. He guessed it was barely five or ten degrees off the zenith, surely impossible in his latitude,

Re: Off topic (but interesting nevertheless)

2002-01-07 Thread Frank Evans
Furthermore, at two minutes past 8pm on 20th February it will be 2002.20/02/2002. I believe this does not hold in the US, where they write the date differently. Spoilsports! Frank 55N 1W -- Frank Evans

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-07 Thread John Carmichael
You couldn't use pure water in the sun to float a mirror because algae would soon grow in the water. I don't know what kind of clear liquid is used in my Silva compass that uses this liquid to dampen the needle. Perhaps there's a little alcohol added to keep it sterile. John John L.

Re: Was Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread John Carmichael
There was a lunar eclipse last week during the full moon. This would place the moon directly on the ecliptic. Since an eclipsed a full moon is exactly opposite the sun, it acts like the sun six months from later or earlier (Like the sun in the summer). John John L. Carmichael Jr. Sundial

About shadows, heights and other ones...

2002-01-07 Thread Rui Farinha
Sorry the Off-Topic and my english... Hi Roger Bailey and other dear friends: Two questions: 1) Last week i red a magazine called "Cosinus" (a french publication to kids). One of the articles was about the highest full moon in the year being the one closest to the Winter solstice (Northern

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-07 Thread John Carmichael
Hi Tony Right now, my little mirror is just inside the window sitting on my workbench. It is so sensitive to small vibrations that the sunspot quivers when I play music and when I walk across the room! John John L. Carmichael Jr. Sundial Sculptures 925 E. Foothills Dr. Tucson Arizona 85718

RE: Off topic (but interesting nevertheless)

2002-01-07 Thread The Shaws
Sorry to have started on off topic hare running ... but having started :- 19.11.1999 was unusual in that every digit in the date was odd. This will not happen again for 1112 years, not until 1.1.3111 in fact. The last all even day was 2.2.2000, the first one since 28.8.888, a gap of (surprise)

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-07 Thread Tony Moss
John Carmichael wrote: You couldn't use pure water in the sun to float a mirror because algae would soon grow in the water. I don't know what kind of clear liquid is used in my Silva compass that uses this liquid to dampen the needle. Perhaps there's a little alcohol added to keep it sterile.

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2002-01-07 Thread Tony Moss
Bill Gooesman wrote Well, if you write your 2's in the same shape that they are formed in an older LCD display calculator, then 2002 reads the same upside down as right side up. So there. and we in the UK have the village of CHIDEOCK with a horizontal line of symmetry. Tony M.

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-07 Thread Tony Moss
John Carmichael replied: Right now, my little mirror is just inside the window sitting on my workbench. It is so sensitive to small vibrations that the sunspot quivers when I play music and when I walk across the room! Interesting to have the seimometer aspect confirmed John. The alternative

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2002-01-07 Thread John Schilke
It being my birthday, I appreciate this much. By the way, the ISO way of writing it (2002-02-20) doesn't work so well, but we cannot have everything -- as my son would say, where would we put it? John Oregon - Original Message - From: alexei.pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Off topic (but interesting nevertheless)

2002-01-07 Thread R.H. van Gent
The Shaws wrote: Extract from The Daily Telegraph (Letters to the Editor): Back and Forth SIR - It might be worth pointing out that the year 2002 consists of a palindrome, being the same backward as forwards. Palindromic years occur normally only once in 110 years (as in

Limitations for polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread Anselmo P�rez Serrada
Hi everyone, Fer is right in saying that with Latitude = 2*TiltOfTheEarth near the summer solstice the reflected ray 'goes back', so you have to move the mirror inwards. Anyway, we'll always have this kind of limitations when dealing with mirror dials... just imagine what happens with the

RE: About shadows, heights and other ones...

2002-01-07 Thread Roger Bailey
Hi Rui, I like the interactive projects that you are proposing. The best way to learn is to do. I am amazed at what this interest in sundials has taught me. Books and computers do not teach as well as an activity. Observations, measurements and calculations are the best way to learn a subject.

RE: Ceiling Sundial

2002-01-07 Thread Andrew Pettit
Dear all To Judge by Judith's reply I clearly spoke out of turn (albeit from that road that leds to hell!). My apologies for any offence given. Regards Andrew At 13:20 4/1/02 -0500, Romano, Judith wrote: Dear Sundialists: Thank you again for your notes of assistance and comments. This

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2002-01-07 Thread Jean-Paul Cornec
The Shaws wrote: Extract from The Daily Telegraph (Letters to the Editor): Back and Forth SIR - It might be worth pointing out that the year 2002 consists of a palindrome, being the same backward as forwards. Palindromic years occur normally only once in 110 years (as in

Re: Ceiling Sundials: Mirror Placement

2002-01-07 Thread John Carmichael
Hi Steve: you wrote: Isn't the problem down there in Tucson that the water would evaporate before any algae has a chance to grow? If the container is sealed with glass, the water couldn't evaporate, and the algae would grow. But you'd also get great amounts of condensation on the glass which

RE: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread David Pratten
The BSS sundial glossary has the following entry under Types of Dials: reflecting ~: these dials have no gnomon, but reflect sunlight by means of a semi-cylindrical mirror, set with the axis of the mirror parallel to the polar axis. The mirror reflects the light to form a caustic curve amongst

RE: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread Tim Yu
[David] What is a caustic curve? See the website: http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~roy/Caustic/ A simple Java applet demonstrates how a caustic curve is formed by parallel light rays bouncing off a cylindrical, reflective surface. Tim

Re: Polar ceiling sundial

2002-01-07 Thread Luke Coletti
Hello David, See BSS Bulletin 98.1, page 30, _Reflecting Sundials_ by C.M. Lowne. The article includes a section, The Cycloid as a Reflector, mentioning that the cusps (of the reflected caustic) are neither evenly-spaced with time nor did they lie on a straight line. However, the edge of