Re: What's the difference between s6 and s6-rc?

2016-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:26:11 +0100 Laurent Bercot wrote: > Do you think a glossary page would help? Yes yes yes yes YES!!! SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Improving http://skarnet.org/software/s6-rc/why.html

2016-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I find http://skarnet.org/software/s6-rc/why.html too dependent on phrases that aren't well enough defined, and phrases that are too similar. For the purpose of *this one email thread* I'm going to define a "Process Grand Supervisor" as a grand process that runs a bunch of "Process

Re: What's the difference between s6 and s6-rc?

2016-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:02:11 +0100 Laurent Bercot wrote: > On 25/02/2016 15:47, Steve Litt wrote: > > Could somebody, in one or two sentences, tell me the difference > > between s6 vs s6-init? > > I'm not looking for references to big old documents: I'm looking for >

Re: s6-rc setup

2016-02-25 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 25/02/2016 16:03, Jan Olszak wrote: One of the reasons I think I need s6-rc is a race between starting logger and starting the services that need logging. I need to be sure I get every log produced and the example logging service from s6 looks awesome. Does the logging from s6-linux-init

Re: s6-rc setup

2016-02-25 Thread Jan Olszak
> > So far I've done as little as possible in inittab (syslog, getty, mounts) >> + s6-svscan starts all other stuff. >> > > You can run your gettys and syslogd under s6 too. :) > > One of the reasons I think I need s6-rc is a race between starting logger and starting the services that need

Re: What's the difference between s6 and s6-rc?

2016-02-25 Thread Jan Bramkamp
On 25/02/16 15:47, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Could somebody, in one or two sentences, tell me the difference between s6 vs s6-init? For the subject i infer that you're asking for the difference between s6 and s6-rc because there is no project or binary named s6-init. I'm not looking for

Re: s6-rc setup

2016-02-25 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 25/02/2016 15:17, Jan Olszak wrote: I work on a medium-sized embedded system. Depending on the amount of services you are running on that embedded system, s6-rc might be overpowered for you. Only use it if you have a nontrivial set of dependencies between services. So far I've done as

Re: s6-rc setup

2016-02-25 Thread Jan Olszak
I work on a medium-sized embedded system. So far I've done as little as possible in inittab (syslog, getty, mounts) + s6-svscan starts all other stuff. s6-svscan doesn't run with PID 1. It's started in inittab. So can I setup s6-rc + initd and later use s6-linux-init? Would that add any work

Re: s6-rc setup

2016-02-25 Thread Laurent Bercot
- What's the best approach to setup s6-rc? That's... a complex question, because it depends on a lot of parameters. What is your context? what is your environment? How have you set up your machine so far? etc. - I see this tool http://skarnet.org/software/s6-linux-init/ for init creation.