Re: s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7)

2019-12-03 Thread Casper Ti. Vector
On Sun, Dec 01, 2019 at 09:47:52PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Would it be acceptable to you and them to put the binaries in /bin/s6 > and then very early in the boot add /bin/s6 to the path? This isn't a > lot different from what djb did with /command, except it's not off the > root, which

Re: s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7)

2019-12-02 Thread Laurent Bercot
sure, that was just an idea for Jan, he could just create a dir somewhere, populate it with symlinks he prefers to the original s6 tools and put this dir in front of the PATH when running s6 since it seems the utilities do not bother under what name they run. Right, but I've heard enough

Re: s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7)

2019-12-02 Thread Laurent Bercot
Would it be acceptable to you and them to put the binaries in /bin/s6 and then very early in the boot add /bin/s6 to the path? This isn't a lot different from what djb did with /command, except it's not off the root, which everyone seems to hate. s6 binaries aren't a problem for Debian; but

Re: s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7)

2019-12-02 Thread Jeff
30.11.2019, 19:58, "Laurent Bercot" : >> the solution here could be a simple symlink to the original s6 tool without >> the prefix if you prefer (maybe even located in an other dir than /bin). > > That would be a decision for users, not software authors - else it would > defeat the point of not

Re: s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7)

2019-12-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 10:15:27 + "Laurent Bercot" wrote: > I hear you. Unfortunately, I have no control over what Debian does. > Debian isn't even able to ship a not-broken execline package, so I'm > at a loss on what to do with them. I'm working on a version of > execline that > they *might*

Re: s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7)

2019-11-30 Thread Jeff
30.11.2019, 11:15, "Laurent Bercot" : > This is very interesting. I thought that having a s6- prefix was a *good* > thing, because I valued clarity above everything, and especially above > terseness. I understand the advantages of having commands named "sv" and > "chpst", but I believed, in my

s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7)

2019-11-30 Thread Laurent Bercot
As a relatively new convert to supervision software, my reasons for preferring runit over s6 are, in order of priority: Hi Jan, Thank you a lot for this feedback. This is very useful UX return. Let me address the points one by one. 1) Debian ships with a working and maintained runit-init