Re: A dumb question

2017-05-03 Thread Avery Payne
On 5/1/2017 2:11 PM, Francisco Gómez wrote: And during the process, someone recently told me something like this. "It's old software. Its last version is from 2014. If I have to choose between a dynamic, bug-filled init like Systemd and a barely maintained init like Runit, I'd

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Guillermo
Hi, 2017-05-02 6:32 GMT-03:00 Francisco Gómez García: > > May 2, 2017 8:35 AM, "Steve Litt" wrote: > >> I also am surprised you could get Gnome to work without systemd. Just >> for fun, try out LXDE, and install dmenu and have it at the ready >> with an easy hotkey. I think you'll love the

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Laurent Bercot
The Debian maintainer is now Dmitry Bogatov. * https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/runit And unless I'm mistaken, he's not subscribed to this list, which is a shame. It makes no sense for software to only be maintained for a distribution (unless, of course, it's distribution-specific software);

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Laurent Bercot: > It is also true that it would benefit from closer maintenance. > Gerrit Pape, runit's author, is still around and still reads this list, > but is not as active as he was a few years ago (typically during > runit development). Fortunately, there are not many feature requests.

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Alex Efros
Hi! On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 07:16:24PM +0200, Francisco Gómez wrote: > Besides, if you could magically do perfect small > applications, that means you'd have to keep working with and on > millions of small tools, right? Wouldn't that just add up complexity!? It depends, but in general just

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Laurent Bercot: > > "It's old software. Its last version is from 2014." > > Old? Let's see... A more amusant counterexample is perhaps the Debian Almquist shell, put into widespread use on Debian and Ubuntu a decade ago in order to speed up bootstrap. M. Almquist first published it in May

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Francisco Gómez
May 2, 2017 12:00 PM, "Laurent Bercot" wrote: > Old? Let's see... > The MTA used by this very mailing-list is netqmail-1.06, i.e. > qmail (latest version released in 1996) with user-contributed > patches, the latest of which is from 2005. > So yeah, that's 12 years

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Laurent Bercot
"It's old software. Its last version is from 2014." Old? Let's see... The MTA used by this very mailing-list is netqmail-1.06, i.e. qmail (latest version released in 1996) with user-contributed patches, the latest of which is from 2005. So yeah, that's 12 years old software. It could be

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Francisco Gómez García
May 2, 2017 8:35 AM, "Steve Litt" wrote: > I also am surprised you could get Gnome to work without systemd. Just > for fun, try out LXDE, and install dmenu and have it at the ready > with an easy hotkey. I think you'll love the productivity > enhancement, once you get

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Francisco Gómez García
May 2, 2017 12:08 AM, "Alex Efros" wrote: > Hi! Hey! First of all, thanks for the quick, polite reply. Didn't expect to be written in days, actually - so that on itself is already a good-enough greeting. > That sounds like everyone has own preference and that's ok. If

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 01 May 2017 23:11:25 +0200 Francisco Gómez wrote: > Hello there, nice to meet you! If you don't mind, I'll be quite too > straight and tell you what I'm coming for. > > So, a few days ago, I switched to Void Linux. This not only meant that > my hipster

Re: A dumb question

2017-05-01 Thread Alex Efros
Hi! On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 11:11:25PM +0200, Francisco Gómez wrote: > "It's old software. Its last version is from 2014. If I have to > choose between a dynamic, bug-filled init like Systemd and a barely > maintained init like Runit, I'd rather use Systemd." > > That sounds bad,