Thanks.
Gerry
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With 200 milions ptas ( 1.20 million Euros ), because the
court consider that has realized banned practices imposing its prices to its
fuel-stations.
This is a prove that we don«t have a free hydrocarbure market
( it«s specially anticompetitive for Small Enterprises, like the biodiesel
Hi to all,
I have an economic problem:
Observing the prices of different oils on Agro Exchange (e.g in Rotterdam) I
found that
different oils have different prices:
For example:
Rapeseed oil: cost 430 Euro/tonne
Coconut oil:230 Euro/tonne
Soyebean oil: 355 Euro/tonne
Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dr. Nering made no claims or stipulations about population growth in
his
analogy. Rather, he used actual estimated increases in global energy
consumption. The 5% growth per annum which he assumed is a global
reality.
Whether the percentage remains,
Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith: A couple of things to add. Biodiesel may or may not be feasible
at the
individual small-peasant level
*or necessary, i might add... bullocks, mules, and such are known to
have
little use for biodiesel, being programmed to run better on
Dick,
I agree with most of what you have laid out here.
There is a window of opportunity that is simply
closed to subsistence farmers. In my experience
subsistence farmers tend to be even more cooperative
than bourgeois farmers and so a single biodiesel
powered tractor may lower the window sill
Do you have any idea how much zeolite cost? I don't have a
clue.
Thanks for writing.
Ron Miller
According to the web source Keith provided, it's about $10 per pound,
but I was quoted that much for silica gel, so it might be more now.
BTW, the same source says only 10% of its weight in absorbed
Really, though, now that we know that ethanol is available why are we
bothering with methanol? I find myself learning with methanol and then
having to switch to ethanol for environmental advantage.
Mike B
Cost, cost, cost. I pay $3.00 a gallon for methanol in small quantities,
others are
I'm asking the same question.
How can you tell it apart from other veggie oil?
Ian
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Funny, I've priced 200% ethanol here at around $.80 liter.
What gives? I better double check my sources.
Mike
-Original Message-
From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:23 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol vs. Methanol
I know that it is a solid at room temperature. I believe it is similar to
vegetable shortening.
There is such an animal as partially hydrogenated oil, although I don't know
its characteristics.
Mike
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From: ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001
I know that it is a solid at room temperature. I believe it is similar to
vegetable shortening.
There is such an animal as partially hydrogenated oil, although I don't know
its characteristics.
Mike
You might find some basic information here - these are health sites,
but these two ladies know
Hi Burk,
Tho still a Michigander, the Air Force says I should live in Srn Illinois
for awhile longer, so here I sit. :-) There's not a lot of commercial
biodiesel around here yet either, tho Scott AFB is running B20 in their
fleet now, as are the St Louis area/Srn Illinois Bi-State busses.
i dont know that i agree that there would be any more
of a feed meal glut than there is right now. all the
grain that is being produced in this country today is
being marketed to every conceivable use there
currently is and we still have an oversupply.
currently if commodity prices are high the
Steve,
The folks (Ballard, Plug Power, others) using hydrocarbons to feed their
fuel cells are using a catalytic 'pre-processor' ('reformer') to strip the
hydrogen off to feed the fuel cell. The pre-processor releases the CO and
other compounds, while the fuel cell produces electricity, heat,
From the Wall Street Journal...
June 4, 2001
Municipal Heart Attack: Illegal Dumping Of Fryer Grease, Fat Leads to
Infarctions
The Sewer-Fat Crisis Stirs a National Stink
Fueled by the fast-food frenzy and an influx of immigrant cooks, America's
appetite for eating out has bloated the national
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How much unprocessed oil are other experimenters finding in the final
product and how much is too much?
Regards from Harry
Good question Harry.
All efforts seem to be towards producing as much ester from the WVO as
possible.
At best the reaction conditions we are
I am new to the Bio fuel scene and enjoy lurking on this list. I have found
donut shops eager to be rid of their waste oil and really don't quite know
what to do next. I have extensive fabrication experience and am looking
forward to running my diesels on old donut squeezings. Any input would be
Where are you getting methanol for $3 a gallon? Do you
need a license to buy it?
-Martin Klingensmith
--- Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really, though, now that we know that ethanol is
available why are we
bothering with methanol? I find myself learning
with methanol and then
Use molecular sieves to absorb water from
ethanol/methanol.
That's what they're made for and they're
reusable/nontoxic.
--- Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have any idea how much zeolite cost? I don't
have a
clue.
Thanks for writing.
Ron Miller
According to the web source
Where are you getting methanol for $3 a gallon? Do you
need a license to buy it?
-Martin Klingensmith
Place called Kaeding Racing in Campbell, CA. They offer lots of
stuff for dragsters, sprint cars, etc, including FUEL..
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Where are you getting methanol for $3 a gallon? Do you
need a license to buy it?
-Martin Klingensmith
Forgot to mention -- no license required.
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Dear listers,
Sorry I've been quiet for such a long time. Lots of catch up to do.
Last night Keith and I visited some of the restaurants around here in this
suburb near Tokyo to collect some used cooking oil. To our surprise, we
found that many of restaurants that smelled of cooking oil had
According to companies who are listed on the web, zeolite 3A will absorb 30
to 40% of its weight in water. I have read that 3A stands for 3
angstrums(spelling) and as I understand water molecues are bigger than that,
it also will allow ethanol to pass right through but trapping the water.
But,
Maybe it's a difference in cultures other than my own(no offence to anyone)
and my sense of humor was a little short that day. Maybe there are more
diesel folks out there than there are ethanolers. I'm just trying to find
the most economical wat to make and dry ethanol. There is enough brain
No matter how you slice and dice it, 5% growth IS a simple exponential,
because that growth is at least implicitly compound (if linear, you have
to specify a base). And assuming a continued simple exponential growth
of ANYTHING is palpable nonsense. You can have a lot of fun
demonstrating
Hey, Andy, thanks! I ain't got no subscription and I was wanting to
see this one. Someone on another list said it was published in the
ironic humour column, do you know if that's right?
Best
Keith Addison
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Handmade Projects
Tokyo
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From the
I am new to the Bio fuel scene and enjoy lurking on this list. I have found
donut shops eager to be rid of their waste oil and really don't quite know
what to do next. I have extensive fabrication experience and am looking
forward to running my diesels on old donut squeezings. Any input would be
Singapore has gone into partnership with Diamler Chrysler on the fuel cell
car concept. The infrastructure for H2 filling stations would be set up. It
would be a few more years before everyone would be driving a fuel cell car.
Though the pollution would be coming from the main H2 plant. That's is
It depends what you mean by farming. So-called conventional
farming - industrialised farming - is fossil-fuel intensive,
economically expensive, and the ecological costs are externalised.
They can be and have been costed.
By costed I meant included in the price.
Because infrastructure is paid for
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Where are you Jeff?
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I read about using exactly that freezing process to increase
the proof rating of alcoholic beverages. However, the book that
mentioned this method said that it would only slightly increase
the proof rating. It would not give you fuel-grade or whiskey-
grade ethanol. Maybe that's why this
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: rethinking economy of scale...Digest Number 491
*i knew it, i knew it !!! should learn to keep my mouth shut... ah, well,
the harm is now done, so i guess i'll just have to add some more of my
biogas to the fire...(:-D)
I'm afraid you paint
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really, though, now that we know that ethanol is available why are
we
bothering with methanol? I find myself learning with methanol and
then
having to switch to ethanol for environmental advantage.
Mike B
Cost, cost,
I don't want to get in this loop, far too entertaining, but: In Queensland's
brigalow (nitrogen fixer)belt Farmers clear, and burn, say 100 acres then
cultivate wheat for a couple of seasons, often to replace harvesters or
other capital equipment. After a few seasons the water retention and
I attempted to titrate to find how much unprocessed oil remained in
my BD made from palm oil(I made two batches one two stage base and
one foolproof method). I found that the BD after drying attained a PH
of about 6. The titration results seemed to vary more from my various
attempts to adjust
Jeff,
Use as a start lecture that can be read at:
www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html
there you will find the chapter : Biodiesel from waste oil
jan surwka
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denatured. is that 200 proof, and does the denaturing agent affect biodiesel
production?
Steve Spence
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Hi to all,
I have an economic problem:
Observing the prices of different oils on Agro Exchange (e.g in Rotterdam) I
found that
different oils have different prices:
For example:
Rapeseed oil: cost 430 Euro/tonne
Coconut oil:230 Euro/tonne
Soyebean oil: 355 Euro/tonne
Hi Jeff
have a look at http://www.veggiepower.org.uk . It contains a few examples of
different mixers. I'm sure yours will be different again. If you take any
photos I'd like to include them on the site.
Simon Wells
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