[biofuels-biz] Re: Help!! Continuous biodiesel plant wanted.( if the figures add up)

2001-07-03 Thread david_design
Energea's 5T per hour plant is £1.9 million (Sterling) and 7 months delivery with 30% up front. If it's high FFA feedstock, add in another 300K for acid pretreatment plant. You then need a site, storage facilities for the oil chemicals and product. £3M might cover it. --- In [EMAIL

[biofuels-biz] Re: Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-07-03 Thread david_design
Excuse me if it looks like I have denegrated Alecs' process, but I don't think I have. What I have done is to point out that high FFA oils are not easy to deal with. I strongly believe that either the FFA based ester has something missing compared to alkali reacted ester or something else

[biofuels-biz] Re: NIR quality tests

2001-07-03 Thread david_design
Yes definitely what does it cost and where can we get the kit? It might even be able to close my questions about FFA derived biodiesel. Can it measure the oxygen content of biodiesel? Dave --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Want me to contact him for more info?

[biofuels-biz] Re: Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-07-03 Thread david_design
This is getting tedious, I'm simply reporting what I found. I followed the acid base recipe and got a low calorific value fuel. After the acid was neutralised and allowed to settle, I ran the 1.5g of NaOH as per the recipe. This did not transesterify all of the oil. I therefore repeated the

[biofuels-biz] what's going on?

2001-07-03 Thread goat industries
I've been following these conversations about acid base reactions etc. Excuse me for perhaps being a bit thick, but what advantage does adding acid have? Also I'm mystified why tolerate 3 hours mixing times ... we mix heavily used wvo in 15 mins with excellent splits ... recipes are made

AW: [biofuels-biz] Help!! Continuous biodiesel plant wanted.( if the figures add up)

2001-07-03 Thread Camillo Holecek
In case this link was ours. (www.energea.at) There may be three reasons: a) You asked a quote for a small plant. We can o0nly offer you from 10.000 tons/year up. b) We where simply busy. Sorry, but we are realy swamped with inquieries here. c) Your mail got misplaced somehow and did not

AW: [biofuels-biz] Help!! Continuous biodiesel plant wanted.( if the figures add up)

2001-07-03 Thread Camillo Holecek
Keith, folks, thanks for the credits, but there may be a misunderstanding about small in context with our technology. Our plants build very small, but still have medium to large scale in terms of capacity: 10.000 tonns to 50.000 tons /annum per unit. Such a unit builds into 3 40' container

AW: [biofuels-biz] Re: Help!! Continuous biodiesel plant wanted.( if the figures add up)

2001-07-03 Thread Camillo Holecek
Wow! Our marketing effords get done by themselfs, it seems ;-) Camillo Holecek Donauwind KG, Biodiesel Raffinerie GmbH, ENGERGEA Umwelttechnologie GmbH, Austria -UrsprŸngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] m [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] elist.com]Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[biofuels-biz] Small on-board diesel genset needed

2001-07-03 Thread doctor who
Someone posted the link to a small I believe the name was ICEE genset that is popular with Semi-Tractor drivers for creating auxiliarry power w/out running the engine. I have been unable to find the link/email/archive that contains this info. The genset is a small black box w/a, diamond plate

[biofuels-biz] Re: Help!! Continuous biodiesel plant wanted.( if the figures add up)

2001-07-03 Thread Wooly .
Hi all Hanns, Harry For general enquiries Camillo Holocek of Energea does contribute to this group. For specific enquiries I am in contact with the Australian agents and can mention this to them if you are keen, and are not discouraged by the (list) price of around $EURO 3,000,000

[biofuels-biz] Biofuel Programmes in Thailand : Tax Exemption Confirmed

2001-07-03 Thread Samai Jaiin
Dear Members, Please visit www.bangkokpost.net for more details. I also attach a report on the confirmation of the tax exemption for biodiesel, veg.mix such as coconut/palm oils(to differentiate between the 'ester' and raw/refined veg.oil) and ethanol. Samai - Sura Maharas plans B100m ethanol

[biofuels-biz] New at Journey to Forever

2001-07-03 Thread Keith Addison
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Re: [biofuels-biz] what's going on?

2001-07-03 Thread Keith Addison
I've been following these conversations about acid base reactions etc. Excuse me for perhaps being a bit thick, but what advantage does adding acid have? Also I'm mystified why tolerate 3 hours mixing times ... we mix heavily used wvo in 15 mins with excellent splits ... recipes are made

Re: [biofuels-biz] Biofuel Programmes in Thailand : Tax Exemption Confirmed

2001-07-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Samai The list won't accept attachments, sorry. I found this though, from today's Bangkok Post - but it's all about blends, no transesterification. Best Keith Addison Biodiesel standards a step closer ENERGY / ALTERNATIVE FUELS -- Looking at incentives for commercial use Srisamorn

Re: [biofuels-biz] Biofuel Programmes in Thailand : Tax Exemption Confirmed

2001-07-03 Thread Samai Jaiin
Hi Keith, The proposal actually is all about methyl/ethyl ester form of biodiesel. The straight veg.oil blend is only part of the whole package, or even a small part of it. The blends get more attention as we try to find cheap fuel for farmers for use with low-rev farming equipments, and as you

[biofuel] to each his own...

2001-07-03 Thread Dick Carlstein
in answer to several postings : Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:26:50 -0400 From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FindArticles - BIODIESEL MORE MUTAGENIC THAN SWEDISH CLASS 1: STUDY.(renewable fuels found more toxic)(Brief Article) Unfortunately, such articles and reports will hold some

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[biofuel] Small on-board diesel genset needed

2001-07-03 Thread doctor who
Someone posted the link to a small I believe the name was ICEE genset that is popular with Semi-Tractor drivers for creating auxiliarry power w/out running the engine. I have been unable to find the link/email/archive that contains this info. The genset is a small black box w/a, diamond plate

Re: [biofuel] Diesel history

2001-07-03 Thread Paul Gobert
- Original Message - From: F. Marc de Piolenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Diesel's original plan was to use powdered coal. Liquid fuels were first used in compression-ignition engines in France by Capitaine, but the engines have always been called Diesel nonetheless. Peanut oil, indeed! Where

Re: [biofuel] Subj

2001-07-03 Thread steve spence
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[biofuel] New at Journey to Forever

2001-07-03 Thread Keith Addison
Biodiesel and your vehicle http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html Bubble washing http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash.html Oils and esters characteristics http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#oils_esters Separating Ethanol From Water

Re: [biofuel] Subj

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[biofuel] Petroleum Subsidies?

2001-07-03 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Much has been said on this list about petroleum being covertly subsidized, but without specifics. I would be grateful for a reference to information on this topic, because I am unable to reconcile the claim that petroleum is the beneficiary of hidden subsidies with the high rate of excise

[biofuel] Diesel history correction

2001-07-03 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Dr. Rudolf Diesel developed the diesel engine in the late 1890's in order to use peanut oil as fuel. WRONG. Diesel's original plan was to use powdered coal. Liquid fuels were first used in compression-ignition engines in France by Capitaine, but the engines have always been called Diesel

Re: [biofuel] Petroleum Subsidies?

2001-07-03 Thread steve spence
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Re: [biofuel] Diesel history correction

2001-07-03 Thread steve spence
From Rudy's own documentation. He displayed his engine at the 1900 worlds fair using peanut oil! basically he said the future was in vegetable oil if I may be allowed to paraphrase. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable

RE: [biofuel] Petroleum Subsidies?

2001-07-03 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
Marc, Am sending you a paper which may provide you with some answers (or more questions) off list because the server won't accept attachments. Hanns --snip- Much has been said on this list about petroleum being covertly subsidized, but without specifics.

[biofuel] Algae info needed

2001-07-03 Thread cavm
Yesterday was a post asking about algae and wishing for an expert in this field on the newsgroup. We work with aquatic businesses in the USA and Mexico. Perhaps one of our people could answer your questions. I would be happy to pass them on if you like. I assume they would be in the area

[biofuel] ResourceOptions

2001-07-03 Thread Roger Applet
Greetings, How will 21st century civilization survive the loss of oil and other vital resources ? ResourceOptions is the discussion of alternative resources. Join us at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ResourceOptions or subscribe by email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roger Applet (Group