Re: [biofuels-biz] WVO based Biz Plan

2001-07-18 Thread doctor who
Thanx for the feedback Dick. Definetly something to consider. I'm actually looking at both VVO and WVO as feedstock. Something along the lines of D1 and D2. (or rather BD1 BD2) Ultimatly I'm looking at having an extruder on the property and processing the oil myself. This is still a very

[biofuels-biz] Re: Relative feedstock oil prices!

2001-07-18 Thread david_design
Can you get unrefined oil? Food grade refining is costly and largely not needed for biodiesel. In UK it's academic as new oil is too costly for biodiesel. Due to high taxes our road fuel market is almost all about price. I'm sure there will be niches where premium prices can be had, but I'd

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Biz Plan (was)Quiet...

2001-07-18 Thread martin.brook
Hi, Im in Cambridge U.K. and would love a copy of Your draft plan. By the way I have found Schools and Hotel kitchens to be a good source of WVO.Best regards, Martin - Original Message - From: david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001

[biofuels-biz] methanol collection

2001-07-18 Thread goat industries
We collect methanol from hayes, UK with no problem ... try pretending you're a farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: [biofuels-biz] Re: Aus suppliers Hi Wooly In UK, I recently asked a

Re: [biofuels-biz] methanol collection

2001-07-18 Thread martin.brook
Hayes where? what would a farmer do with it? - Original Message - From: goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:29 PM Subject: [biofuels-biz] methanol collection We collect methanol from hayes, UK with no problem ... try

[biofuels-biz] Quality Parameters

2001-07-18 Thread biodieselbol
Hello! Does somebody know about the Quality Parameters for the Raw Materials to achieve European standards for Biodiesel? What are the main parameters for the Crude Oils? Thank you very Much Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX

Re: [biofuels-biz] methanol collection UK

2001-07-18 Thread goat industries
hays chemical distribution,, westington ho, manchester, 0161 8487938 get a quotation sent to you by fax/post then show it at the gate. Wear green wellies and a barbour jacket. - Original Message - From: martin.brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [biofuels-biz] methanol collection UK

2001-07-18 Thread martin.brook
Thanks, nice one, will report back next week - Original Message - From: goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] methanol collection UK hays chemical distribution,, westington ho, manchester,

[biofuels-biz] NIR - was Re: WVO based Biz Plan

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
Cordain wrote: snip Is anyone on this list already in commercial production. If so do you have a gas chromo on your premises are have your contracted with lab to do your testing. I'm not liscensed to fly one of those things, just curious to see how ASTM standards are met. Hi Cordain This

[biofuels-biz] Re: Aus suppliers

2001-07-18 Thread Wooly .
Hi Dave Could I just start by asking you to please snip in replying - just include the relevant sentences. Thanx. If you have a look at your message to me its quite confusing with the odd fragments of previous messages in there. Don't know if it's same in Oz, but over here you get it delivered

[biofuels-biz] Enough waste oil?

2001-07-18 Thread Wooly .
Hi Cordain My biggest challenge thus far has not even been the figuring out my budget or financial concerns as it has been finding an adequate WVO oil supply to keep up with my proposed plant size I find this to be the one big issue I keep coming back to in my plans, too. In Sydney-regional

Re: [biofuels-biz] WVO based Biz Plan

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WVO - waste vegetable oil what is VVO Virgin Vegetable Oil I suppose. It's yet another silly acronym, they proliferate like cancer cells, confounding comprehension and clarity. It's jargon, is all. All newspapers restrict these things, with good reason, but techies

Re: [biofuels-biz] Enough waste oil?

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Steve snip On the same train of thought, I am still looking into us making ethanol, for its better cold point properties and renewable supply properties, but the price of methanol by the truckload (indeed boatload) from methanex (Thanks Keith for the links again) seems sure to settle that

[biofuels-biz] Re: Aus suppliers

2001-07-18 Thread david_design
Hi Steve I'm sure you've sussed the problems with COSHH or whatever the regulations are called outside UK, but I raised the point to remind others. I was surprised for a merchant to refuse to supply methanol in proper steel drums without proof that the haulier was appropriately

Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil

2001-07-18 Thread Dana Linscott
Cornelius, Be very careful. Used motor oil contains heavy metals which can classify it as a hazardous waste. Often special permits are needed to burn it as fuel. Failure to get ALL of these permits are financially devastating. If you remove these heavy metals the waste product containing them is

Re: [biofuel] Environmental impact of ethanol fuels debate

2001-07-18 Thread Harmon Seaver
That site on fuel cells contains some erroneous information -- it says that ONSI is the only commercial manufacturer of fuel cells, I know of at least two others, IDATECH, which sells small home cogeneration units, and is developing an even smaller one for portable power, camping, etc.

Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil

2001-07-18 Thread Appal Energy
The burning of used motor oil, hydraulic and transmission fluids is specific furnaces and boilers is permitted within the US. These units cannot be over a specific BTU output. www.cleanburn.com utilizes compressed air to ensure higher degrees of complete combustion. There may be others. But

[biofuel] Honda Opens Hydrogen Production, Fueling Station

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jul2001/2001L-07-16-09.html Honda Opens Hydrogen Production, Fueling Station TORRANCE, California, July 16, 2001 (ENS) - The first hydrogen production and fueling station in the Los Angeles area has started operation at Honda's research and development center in

[biofuel] G8 task force urges expansion of renewable energy

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=11598 Planet Ark G8 task force urges expansion of renewable energy ITALY: July 17, 2001 ROME - A high-level task force is sending a blueprint to Group of Eight (G8) leaders aimed at giving an additional one billion people access to renewable

[biofuel] Ethanol - California needs it, but can it get it?

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=11596 Planet Ark Ethanol - California needs it, but can it get it? USA: July 17, 2001 NEW YORK - A Bush administration decision that opened the door to the widespread use of the motor fuel additive ethanol in California's gasoline has

[biofuel] Australia far exceeding Kyoto emission targets

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=11602 Planet Ark Australia far exceeding Kyoto emission targets AUSTRALIA: July 17, 2001 CANBERRA - Australian greenhouse gas emissions increased 17 percent from 1990 to 1998, far exceeding its Kyoto protocol commitment to increase emissions

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol - California needs it, but can it get it?

2001-07-18 Thread Pat McCotter
See, the government knows how to run a business. Thanks for this article, Keith. Pat McCotter From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol - California needs it, but can it get it? Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:40:23

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol - California needs it, but can it get it?

2001-07-18 Thread Appal Energy
Permit me to dissect this wonderful work of journalism. Actually, the article is well written, but the premises put forward by the political and industrial hierarchy are inept. Concerns are registered that there isn't enough this and there isn't enough that at present. Not enough, rail cars, not

Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil

2001-07-18 Thread steve spence
from http://www.recycleoil.org/ : Motor oil doesn't wear out - it just gets dirty. The oil you take to a collection center to be recycled saves energy. It can be reprocessed and used in furnaces for heat, or in power plants to generate electricity for homes, schools and businesses. It can also

[biofuel] Re: Australia far exceeding Kyoto emission targets

2001-07-18 Thread gjkimlin
There is no doubt in my mind that Australia can not meet the Kyoto targets. Mostly the problem is one of ego. Only a small fraction of Australia could be considered industrialised and yet we insist on being included as an industrialised nation. The spread of population and resources over a

Re: [biofuel] Environmental impact of ethanol fuels debate

2001-07-18 Thread Harmon Seaver
Hmm, HPower told me I could get a 10KW rig thru one of the participating electric co-ops in MN and WI, and gave a list of them. And I know Idatec is testing but it's with a fair number of units in people's homes and busineses. steve spence wrote: according to idatech's website, they are

[biofuel] $4,000,000 almost off topic

2001-07-18 Thread Appal Energy
The US Internal Revenue Service just spent $4,000,000.00 to notify ~115,000,000 taxpayers that they would be receive a refund as a result of tax reform. Apparently an internal error has misinformed ~500,000 persons. They won't be receiving as much as the notices lead them to believe. The real

Re: [biofuel] Environmental impact of ethanol fuels debate

2001-07-18 Thread steve spence
did they happen to mention what they are fueled with, and fuel consumption per kwh? Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation

[biofuel] Feds Give Soybean Farmers Good News

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010717/bs/farm_scene_74.html Tuesday July 17 1:13 AM ET Feds Give Soybean Farmers Good News Feds Give Soybean Farmers Good News By KIM DURNAN, Associated Press Writer DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) - Increasing the demand for soy-based products such as biodiesel would

Farmers Cannot Afford to Buy Further into Solvent Extraction was Re: [biofuel] Feds Give Soybean Farmers Good News

2001-07-18 Thread Appal Energy
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010717/bs/farm_scene_74.html DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) - Increasing the demand for soy-based products such as biodiesel would be a significant economic boon to farmers, according to a federal report. [snip] Widespread production of a fuel mix containing

Re: Farmers Cannot Afford to Buy Further into Solvent Extraction was Re: [biofuel] Feds Give Soybean Farmers Good News

2001-07-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Todd Excellent explication, real text-book stuff. Well, we have to keep up the pressure at that level of things, but I reckon the more important bit is just to get on and do it at the micro-processor, local community level. Many people seems to be thinking along those lines, and more than

[biofuel] Gas Producer Miscellany

2001-07-18 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Last weekend we finally moved all but one of my file cabinets out of my container and into my home, and I've spent my free time since then chipping rust, repairing pendaflex folders and having more fun than a kit at Christmas. It has been over ten years since all my files were housed where I

[biofuel] RE: Microprocessing of soybean oil to biodiesel

2001-07-18 Thread cavm
We priced two soybean extrusion plants for Kentucky farmers yesterday. This process with an oil press will allow them to manufacture their own high fat bean meal and press about half the oil from the bean. Of course, once the oil is free from the meal it is a candidate for biodiesel. The

Re: Farmers Cannot Afford to Buy Further into Solvent Extraction was Re: [biofuel] Feds Give Soybean Farmers Good News

2001-07-18 Thread Appal Energy
Are there any such state and local governments? (Genuine question, not just being sceptical.) Honestly Keith, I just don't know. I would like to believe so. I think it might be wise to present the micro-processing concept before Senator Grassley's democratic counterpart. If it's Tom Harkin,

[biofuel] drying naoh-help request

2001-07-18 Thread Dick Carlstein
hi all !! would have sworn that a bunch of list members had the knowledge i seek, and would be willing to share it with the list. so far no luck. so please, if anybody knows how to dry naoh, could she/he be kind enough to share this info ? sure appreciate it !! thanks for the time, cheers,