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I was just thinking that by treating the glycerin biproduct from
biodiesel which is sodium glycerate with hydrochloric acid (HCl)
you'd end up with a product that is a mixture of table salt and
glycerin which could possibly be fed to animals? We have a dairy
farm and feed the cows something
Keith,
What proportion of the methanol can you expect to recover using
distillation?
Ken
Hi Ken
Bit of a misreading here - it's Anton who's recovering his methanol.
There's some info in the archives though I think. Dale Scoggins
posted some figures a while back IIRC. Search here:
I've read some posts from people here, concerning the bubble wash
water- well, no need to.
Thanks for that Alexs
If you remove your meth via vacuum, all it is to it is VERY MILD
soap-water. You produce a more lethal thing when showering or taking
a bath.
Do you know where I can find a
http://www.nf-2000.org/secure/Fair/F484.htm#final
Some interesting results here that help on this question of combustion of
SVO in DI engines. Also a bit on furnaces. Worth reading over at least once,
IMHO.
Also interesting results on use of ethanol blended with SVO.
Does anyone have further
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From: Aleksander lt;kac
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 06:26
Subject: [biofuel] washing water - down the drain or not?
I've read some posts from people here, concerning the bubble wash
water- well, no need to.
If you remove your meth via vacuum, all it is
Ed,
Thanks for this! Just read the whole thing. The improvement with the addition of
alcohol is impressive.
I'd like to try it with ethanol, but I've got a question. I know that most folks
who make biodiesel use methanol, but I can't remember if it's because it's more
readily available, or
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Thanks. If ethanol is less toxic, that would be a plus for my use (mixing with
SVO.) And since I'd not be making biodiesel with it, the fact that methanol is
easier to control wouldn't be an issue.
Anyone have a source for ethanol made from organically raised crops?
Craig
Greg and April wrote:
Ethanol is sold as denatured product (made unfit to for human
consumption). Denatured ethanol, from organics would be difficult to find. I
emphasize that I have not tried this blending and do not advocate this idea
without further research. It is likely that there are problems with it with
Thanks, Ed.
Craig
Neoteric Biofuels Inc. wrote:
Ethanol is sold as denatured product (made unfit to for human
consumption). Denatured ethanol, from organics would be difficult to find. I
emphasize that I have not tried this blending and do not advocate this idea
without further research.
BTW, methanol is more than a little more toxic than methanol when ingested
by humans!!
Methanol if ingested will kill you or at least blind you (and in fact is
what is used to 'denature' the ethanol, hence the British term methylated
spirits or meths). And it is usually made from natural gas
Has anyone seen plans for this waste (sump) oil burning stove?
The stove is apparently the development of the Renewable Energies
Development Institute (REDI) under the auspice of Waclaw Micuta. It
may even be diagrammed in the 1985 book by him titled Modern Stoves
for All.
Supposedly
Is Methanol Poisonous?
Yes. As with many other fuels, methanol can be highly toxic and should never
be taken orally. A few teaspoons of methanol can cause blindness and a few
tablespoons can be fatal, if the exposure is not treated.
http://www.epa.gov/orcdizux/07-meoh.htm
See
http://www.icrc.org/icrceng.nsf/4dc394db5b54f3fa4125673900241f2f/231fd
9d6c658b8f4412568e20032a0f1?OpenDocument
and look about 3/4 the way down at HV1 and HV2 stoves.
Best regards,
Joe
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hi Joe i could not open link. could you send me the
page of list pls. on the hv1 and hv2 stoves
louis
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Sorry forgot link to REDI
Have it your way. Just don't drink the stuff.
EB
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Hello Keith,
I merely forwarded this message to all entries in my
address book. Sorry if this caused any inconvenience.
Speaking of inconveniences I am mildly irritated
but mostly curious as to why I often receive duplicate
messages from the biofuel group. Perhaps you could
explainas
hi joe i did a google search for HV1 and there it was
i want one or plans. anyone on this list from swittzerland.
louis
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:23 PM
Subject: [biofuel] REDI engine sump oil stove
the link works fine, you just have to add the 2 lines together.
Steve Spence
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There has been some good dialogue on this newsgroup regarding water washing
techniques and toxicity of waste water from washing biodiesel. Question: what
type water is everyone using to wash their biodiesel? Plain well water,
treated city water, carbon filtered, purified using
Craig
There are several places to get organic ethanol out there. We have built
several stills for people that produce nothing but organic alcohol. If you are
interested I can have some contact you. Although why dont you make your own?
Thats what this is all about.
Terry D. Wilhelm
The
Craig,
Sound advice! Terry knows his stuff in this area and is well worth
listening to. Suggest you have a peek at his website to confirm that
statement!
All the best,
Mike Nixon
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Have it your way. Just don't drink the stuff.
EB
Hm. No, Ed, I don't think Greg should have it his way. He's
definitely underplaying the dangers of methanol. I don't think it's
going to do anyone any good for D-I-Y biofuel neophytes to get the
impression that methanol is nice, cosy stuff
Hello Russ
Hello Keith,
I merely forwarded this message to all entries in my
address book. Sorry if this caused any inconvenience.
'S'okay - thanks for the sorries!
Speaking of inconveniences I am mildly irritated
but mostly curious as to why I often receive duplicate
messages from the
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