Re: [biofuels-biz] Ethanol

2002-03-15 Thread steve spence
see below: Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original

[biofuel] Re: Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-15 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a misperception, according to the info my granddaughter brings home from school. 37% of fatal accidents involve alcohol. Her teacher doesn't like my math. The way I learned to do math, that means that in 63% of

[biofuel] Re: Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-15 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MotorCycle riding on snow/ice is fun if flexible. Being from Minnesota, I have experienced the above situation more often than good sense would dictate. I'd be curious to know just how it would rate as aerobic exercise? Better than sex, to

[biofuel] Re: biomass, ethanol and the environment

2002-03-15 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Motie Re the last bit, I think the Arabs are much less to blame (?) than past and present US foreign policy along with (very much! - in concert with) the machinations of the Seven Sisters, or however many sisters

[biofuel] Re: Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-15 Thread Keith Addison
Motie wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a misperception, according to the info my granddaughter brings home from school. 37% of fatal accidents involve alcohol. Her teacher doesn't like my math. The way I learned to do math, that

[biofuel] Re: biomass, methanol and the environment

2002-03-15 Thread Ken Provost
Keith writes: ethanol from cellulose is something of a holy grail, lacking really effective/efficient technology, but all signs are that that's changing, or on the point of changing. Actually, the technology for converting ligno-cellulosic biomass to METHANOL is taking off even better -- the

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-15 Thread Richard Morgan
It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster. If the green house deal comes about, it will likely kill most the population off-- less

[biofuel] Would you like Paper or Plastic?

2002-03-15 Thread Ken Provost
Richard Morgan wrote: It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster. Actually, this argument has one valid corollary, I think. I

[biofuel] OT- Just a Thought

2002-03-15 Thread MH
Before we our global connection is impugned The Yahoo! Groups service will be down for scheduled maintenance Friday, March 15, 9:00 PM PST (GMT-8) as we move our servers to a new facility. We expect the service to be restored the morning of Sunday March 17. Thought for Every Day If we could

RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-15 Thread kirk
How about the number of people killed each year by contaminated food? When they tell you a child died from ecoli contamination they are telling you they can't run a business where they keep shit out of the hamburger. If my uncles slaughterhouse had done that he would have been out of business

[biofuel] Re: Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-15 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rest of the arguments by the Rapist-Enablers are equally inflated/distorted, in order to justify an otherwise untenable position. I better stop for now. I'm getting well off-topic. Motie Perhaps just a bit. Never mind.

Re: [biofuel] (Biodiesel) Emulsification Problems.

2002-03-15 Thread Paul Gobert
Recently made my first batch of chicken Soup Tried stirring in a strong salt solution, no change. Strong acetic acid stirred in instantly broke the emulsion. Was able to drain off water within the hour. Good source of strong acetic acid is photographic Stop Bath concentrate. It has been noted

Re: [biofuel] Re: biomass, ethanol and the environment

2002-03-15 Thread George Wessel
Or, my personal favorite, to gasify(Thermal Hydrolysis) the stover (residues) to Synthesis gas with a Water Shift reaction to a catalytic reactor to synthetic Diesel fuel Motie Would you have any info or web pages etc. on this Thermal Hydrolysis? I have never heard of this and am very

Re: [biofuel] (Biodiesel) Emulsification Problems.

2002-03-15 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Paul Gobert Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 16:21 Subject: Re: [biofuel] (Biodiesel) Emulsification Problems. Usually after 1 hour and then again the next day. BD in contact with highly caustic glycerine tends to form a layer of jelly at the BD glycerine

[biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-15 Thread murdoch65
In reading through that article, I have not come across yet any mention of the regen braking working at slow speeds, but there is some extensive discussion of the hydraulic approach being better efficiency than others. I question the efficiency comparisons they make. I think some electric

Re: [biofuel] Boolean searching at the archive

2002-03-15 Thread steve spence
there is so little life outside of IE, it's just not worth the extra development time testing. 98 % of all web traffic among my many customers is some form of IE. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages -

[biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-15 Thread murdoch65
I really don't know. I don't know why the compressed air concept has not just completely taken off, sorry for the pun. It is the only proposal I can recall seeing for a completely non-chemical solution to storing energy on board a vehicle (i.e., the energy is carried entirely as potential

[biofuel] Question about Biodiesel in Farm States

2002-03-15 Thread murdoch65
What is the status of diesel engines being made available to farmers: is there any sort of warranty violation if the farmers run biodiesel? Have the manufacturers of farm equipment done a good job of certifying their engines to run on farmers' products? My followup would-will-be: how