Re: [biofuels-biz] Ethanol

2002-03-17 Thread julien MARQUISE
julien marquise [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear,biofuels,somehow all of this and tens of similar letters that are not adressed to me end up in my mailbox-could you be kind to make sure the e-mails that you send get to the right adressee?Thank you --- steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see below:

Re: [biofuels-biz] Generally Stalled Motors

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
anything that fuels a diesel process could be called diesel fuel. Not all vegetable oil based concoctions are biodiesel, only transesterification. dinodiesel was not the original diesel fuel, peanut oil was. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter:

Re: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel from Paddy husk, Saw dust and cane sugar pulp

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
I don't believe there is much oil content in these items. Anyone know differently? Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport -

Re: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel from Paddy husk, Saw dust and cane sugar pulp

2002-03-17 Thread Keith Addison
Little or no oil. 80 million tons of rice husk a year, mostly silica. Some is burnt for energy, some returned to the soil, FWIW, and not easy to compost it. Sawdust, cane sugar pulp (ie bagasse?), energy, maybe ethanol, not biodiesel. I believe there are various projects in India utilising

(Fwd) [biofuels-biz] (Fwd) (Fwd) incentives for motor biofules

2002-03-17 Thread Jan Sur—wka
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- To:biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Priority: normal From: Jan Sur—wka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:12:26 + Subject: [biofuels-biz] (Fwd) (Fwd) incentives for motor biofules in different countri

(Fwd) [biofuels-biz] (Fwd) did my message reach\ the group ?

2002-03-17 Thread Jan Sur—wka
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- To:biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Priority: normal From: Jan Sur—wka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:12:26 + Subject: [biofuels-biz] (Fwd) did my message reach\ the group ? Reply-to:

Re: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel from Paddy husk, Saw dust and cane sugar pulp

2002-03-17 Thread John Harris
There are Two products that get confused here. as Keith said Paddy husk has little oil and no value in making Biodiesel. Rice Bran on the other hand is high in oil and should be a good source especially with solvent extraction with alcohol as part of the biodiesel process. see

[biofuels-biz] Coconut oil

2002-03-17 Thread bernard peiris
Dear Friends, I would like to know if any of you could give me feedback on the use of coconut oil as a biofuel. Thanks regds Bernie Peiris - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[biofuels-biz] ENERGIES... week of 3/10/02

2002-03-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Readers; America's Biggest Challenge, Action by the U.S. Senate this week is a good example of why Green Energy News was created six years ago. In a one-two knock-out punch, the Senate killed efforts to raise Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards to 36 miles per gallon, AND

Re: [biofuels-biz] Coconut oil

2002-03-17 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
http://rintintin.colorado.edu/~robertjp/Energy/CoconutOil-Fuel.pdf Good profile. Low FFA. Needs preheat. High melting point. Two-tank it and preheat it, same as the rest. Edward Beggs www.biofuels.ca PS: VEG-Therm in-line SVO heaters - now on sale, only $49 US! (regular $75) on 3/17/02

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
compressed air has a horrible efficiency, mainly do to compression energy needed. batteries have a higher range, and higher charge efficiencies. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages -

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
less than half of the braking power makes it back into the pack (12kw out of 30kw). on one test vehicle regen added a miserly 4 miles to the range (30 miles instead of 26). Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages -

Re: [biofuel] 20% soybean oil and 80% fossil fuel = biofuel

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
b20 is not a biofuel. b20 is a fossil fuel with a biofuel additive.. b100 is a biofuel, as is e100. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and

Re: [biofuel] Boolean searching at the archive

2002-03-17 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:42:44PM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: there is so little life outside of IE, it's just not worth the extra development time testing. 98 % of all web traffic among my many customers is some form of IE. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter:

Re: [biofuel] Re: Trail's Travel Center, others concerned about move toward biodiesel mandate

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
would they prefer low sulfur diesel? hey, anything to keep sucking on the teat of the middle east, eh? US dinodiesel is dirty and harmful. 2 methods of cleaning it up is cleaner diesel, a fossil fuel, or biodiesel, a renewable fuel. I'll choose Biodiesel. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable

RE: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Lynn B. Di Tullio
In a nutshell...its too much hot air! or not enough... The size tank you would need for compressed air energy storage would be enormous. Compressed air tanks are used for starting gas turbines, to overcome inertia at remote (non-personed) locations; however, even with a big tank, its gone in

[biofuel] bustpat.pdf

2002-03-17 Thread kirk
Speaking of legal protection this guy has a good argument that patents are a poor deal. http://www.tinaja.com/glib/bustpat.pdf --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.332 / Virus Database: 186 - Release Date: 3/6/2002

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:19:28PM -0500, Lynn B. Di Tullio wrote: In a nutshell...its too much hot air! or not enough... The size tank you would need for compressed air energy storage would be enormous. Compressed air tanks are used for starting gas turbines, to overcome inertia at remote

[biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread murdoch65
Lynn B. Di Tullio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a nutshell...its too much hot air! or not enough... The size tank you would need for compressed air energy storage would be enormous. Compressed air tanks are used for starting gas turbines, to overcome inertia at remote (non-personed)

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 10:34:07AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:19:28PM -0500, Lynn B. Di Tullio wrote: In a nutshell...its too much hot air! or not enough... The size tank you would need for compressed air energy storage would be enormous. Compressed air

[biofuel] RE: Rapist Enablers

2002-03-17 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
Keith Addison wrote: Perhaps just a bit. Never mind. You call the gun-control lobby Rapist-Enablers? Not a similar distortion? How does that fit in with this? There was a quote written some time ago, by whom I don't remember that said: Gun control is the idea that the woman lying dead

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
See: http://www.zeropollution.com/zeropollution/ Seems like a lot of effort to go to if it is so easily disproven - on the other hand they seems to be making little progress with getting into production - last I hear they were supposed to be going into Mexico City, wasn't it? Edward Beggs

Aircar - was Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Keith Addison
Harmon Seaver wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:19:28PM -0500, Lynn B. Di Tullio wrote: In a nutshell...its too much hot air! or not enough... The size tank you would need for compressed air energy storage would be enormous. Compressed air tanks are used for starting gas turbines, to

[biofuel] VEG-Therm now only $49

2002-03-17 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Our popular 12 Volt vegetable oil in-line heater is on sale for spring! Regular $75 US, now only $49! Shipping extra. Compact and lightweight for shipping, and installation in engine bay Advanced materials Developed especially for the SVO (straight vegetable oil) application Easy to install

[biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread murdoch65
http://www.zeropollution.com/zeropollution/ Seems like a lot of effort to go to if it is so easily disproven - on the other hand they seems to be making little progress with getting into production - last I hear they were supposed to be going into Mexico City, wasn't it? Edward

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
I looked a their site again, they also claim a plant in NY and US sales soon. Anyone in NY can check? Edward Beggs www.biofuels.ca on 3/17/02 10:06 AM, murdoch65 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.zeropollution.com/zeropollution/ Seems like a lot of effort to go to if it is so

[biofuel] Fw: [SANET-MG] Alternative Fuel Use

2002-03-17 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: RDH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 17:42 Subject: [SANET-MG] Alternative Fuel Use If we took approximately 12% of our soy bean production and put it into soy diesel, it would run all of the school buses in the U.S.

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
It's pretty simple. no pollution at point of use, but what an electric bill compressing the air! Now, what was the source of the electricity? this is the same issue as a pure EV, except that it costs more per mile. No lead acids to replace/recycle however. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable

Re: [biofuel] bustpat.pdf

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
Don has lots of good info at Tinaja. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
However the process to chemically change the structure of Pure Plant Oil, is a very costly operation and requires a lot of energy, as it removes the glycerine substituting it by methanol as well as adding other chemicals, **making the endproduct poisenous and equally hazardous as

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
I'm in NYC, So I'll see what I can dig up. These things are supposed to be built in France, and there is a business team in NYC. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
why do they claim zero emissions (let's forget the emissions of the electric generation for the compressor for a moment) and then show a combustion chamber and some sort of fuel injector or spark plug on the diagram? Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter:

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 08:54:31AM -0500, steve spence wrote: less than half of the braking power makes it back into the pack (12kw out of 30kw). on one test vehicle regen added a miserly 4 miles to the range (30 miles instead of 26). Actually, that's quite good and well worth doing. If

[biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hello MM I'm really inspired by the number of good points and questions that seem to get made in this discussion forum. In reading the description, the purpose I guess is supposed to be how to roll your own, and that's not really what I focus on, more on covering efforts by individuals and

Re: [biofuel] Re: Trail's Travel Center, others concerned about move toward biodiesel mandate

2002-03-17 Thread Keith Addison
would they prefer low sulfur diesel? hey, anything to keep sucking on the teat of the middle east, eh? US dinodiesel is dirty and harmful. 2 methods of cleaning it up is cleaner diesel, a fossil fuel, or biodiesel, a renewable fuel. I'll choose Biodiesel. Steve Spence Hi Steve Probably going

Re: [biofuel] Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc

2002-03-17 Thread Appal Energy
I guess I missed this bit of text. I catch the ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING bit and assess it as an accurate response to the equally hazardous myth... But what in the world is MAO? Todd Swearingen However the process to chemically change the structure of Pure Plant Oil, is a very costly

Fw: [biofuel] Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc

2002-03-17 Thread Appal Energy
Never mind...I took a bit to piece it together. Todd Swearingen I guess I missed this bit of text. I catch the ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING bit and assess it as an accurate response to the equally hazardous myth... But what in the world is MAO? Todd Swearingen However the process to

Re: [biofuel] Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
;-) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original

[biofuel] Re: biomass, ethanol and the environment

2002-03-17 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't he claim prior art to your publication? I think you need to patent or otherwise and then place it in public domain. Any legal experts here? Kirk To get a Patent, I have to publish it, which makes the info available to

RE: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread kirk
I still think compressed storage runs a poor second to cryo storage. -Original Message- From: steve spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 12:40 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated. It's pretty simple. no

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Yeah , good question, actually, was wondering same. Edward Beggs www.biofuels.ca on 3/17/02 12:39 PM, steve spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why do they claim zero emissions (let's forget the emissions of the electric generation for the compressor for a moment) and then show a

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread steve spence
neither looks good in my book, but I suspect you are correct. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport -

[biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if anyone has tried building a Tesla turbine that also acted as a flywheel? Or perhaps just coupled to a flywheel -- think of that as a hybrid, gasifier fueled Tesla turbine winding up a flywheel, regen braking fed

[biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread murdoch65
What are you referring to, the Ford Tonka or some other regen system? And are you addressing the issue of overall efficiency or the issue of whether regen is to be had down to zero speed without friction brakes, (which I don't think I've seen in a vehicle)? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], steve

[biofuel] Re: Statement-SOLAROIL-Eu-tax.4.12.2001.doc

2002-03-17 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I missed this bit of text. I catch the ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING bit and assess it as an accurate response to the equally hazardous myth... But what in the world is MAO? Todd Swearingen ROFLMAO is Rolling On

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-17 Thread MH
It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster. If the green house deal comes about, it will likely kill most the population off-- less

Re: [biofuel] MN biodiesel - was Mixed thoughts!

2002-03-17 Thread MH
A follow up to proposed Minnesota Legislation - Establishing a 2 Percent Minimum Content of Biodiesel Fuel in Certain Fuels via Koch Industries, Inc., Holiday Stationstores and American Lung Association of Minnesota CLEAN AIR BREAKTHROUGH WILL REDUCE POLLUTION IN MINNESOTA St. Paul, Minnesota-

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-17 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:52:47PM -0600, MH wrote: The danger to wetlands would come from dryness as well as heat. W. Carter Johnson, professor of ecology at South Dakota State University, found that if temperatures increase 3.6¡F to 7¡F, precipitation would have to increase 10 to 25

[biofuel] Re: Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-17 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been observing the effects of global warming by the increase of the green house effect sense the late 1970s. Are you positively sure the warming is caused by greenhouse gases? Or is the increase in greenhouse gases caused by

Re: [biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread MH
How the the heck can a Hybrid Electric Vehicle (HEV) projecting 40 mpg city compared to its counterpart a gasoline version reported to get 23 mpg city engineer a increased fuel economy of 74 percent ? The Escape HEV will feature an advanced regenerative braking system which recaptures energy

[biofuel] Re: Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-17 Thread MH
-- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been observing the effects of global warming by the increase of the green house effect sense the late 1970s. Are you positively sure the warming is caused by greenhouse gases? Or is the increase in greenhouse gases caused by

[biofuel] ENERGIES... week of 3/10/02

2002-03-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Readers; America's Biggest Challenge, Action by the U.S. Senate this week is a good example of why Green Energy News was created six years ago. In a one-two knock-out punch, the Senate killed efforts to raise Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards to 36 miles per gallon, AND

[biofuel] Re: regenerative braking is overrated.

2002-03-17 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How the the heck can a Hybrid Electric Vehicle (HEV) projecting 40 mpg city compared to its counterpart a gasoline version reported to get 23 mpg city engineer a increased fuel economy of 74 percent ? Through 'creative accounting'