Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel Engine Trader

2002-05-26 Thread steve spence
Don't forget the diesel swap page at http://www.webconx.com/dieselshop.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport -

Re: Diesel-bashing - was Re: [biofuel] Sen. John Kerry (Dem.: Mass.)

2002-05-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 26 May 2002 12:10:09 +0900, you wrote: Hello Murdoch I saw no info on this at journeyforever.org, Why would you expect to see info on it there? Because I saw a collection of news stories which seem give some news stories of where major diesel issues or advances appear, though on

Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 25 May 2002 17:05:42 +0900, you wrote: Murdoch wrote: One has to note that new chemicals, drugs, GM crops, iffy stuff promoted by the big guys does not exactly receive the same treatment. What do they call it? - substantive equivalence, or something. But, if this is what it sounds

[biofuel] Re: FERMENTING REBELLION

2002-05-26 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was in 1999, or around there. The dates get blurry, what with the whirlwind of activity. [more, much more] ... to the first and only ethanol plant in the world. That was in 1999, or around there... Huh?

Re: Diesel-bashing - was Re: [biofuel] Sen. John Kerry (Dem.: Mass.)

2002-05-26 Thread Keith Addison
Murdoch wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2002 12:10:09 +0900, you wrote: Hello Murdoch I saw no info on this at journeyforever.org, Why would you expect to see info on it there? Because I saw a collection of news stories which seem give some news stories of where major diesel issues or advances

[biofuel] Re: FERMENTING REBELLION

2002-05-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Motie --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was in 1999, or around there. The dates get blurry, what with the whirlwind of activity. [more, much more] ... to the first and only ethanol plant in the world. That was in 1999, or around there...

[biofuel] Re: FERMENTING REBELLION

2002-05-26 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Motie Uh-huh. That kind of stuff gets old pretty quickly. Sort of An Enemy of the People in reverse. Very boring when a mob starts talking Freedom of Speech. Is anyone taking a sensible view, or will the yahoos have

Re: [biofuel] FERMENTING REBELLION

2002-05-26 Thread steve spence
Guess these folks had never been in a silo. That's fresh farm air ;-) Nothing like the smell of silage and manure in the morning. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human

Re: [biofuel] Re: FERMENTING REBELLION

2002-05-26 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:37:56AM -, motie_d wrote: The Wisconsin plant is under construction, at the protested location. Most of the problem is the NIMBY attitude. The repeated use of the Pimental study doesn't help their credibilty with informed people. Unfortunately, there aren't

Re: [biofuel] Re: FERMENTING REBELLION

2002-05-26 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:27:08AM -0400, Appal Energy wrote: Motie, Technically it is still is a country of democracy and freedom of speech. Just that those in office are the principal ones who get to de-mock at any given time. Gotta tell you though...It gets old when people keep

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel Engine Trader

2002-05-26 Thread steve spence
Don't forget the diesel swap page at http://www.webconx.com/dieselshop.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport -

Re: [biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel Engine Trader

2002-05-26 Thread studio53
Site must be down. Couldn't get the page to come up. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com;

Re: [biofuel] Re: FERMENTING REBELLION

2002-05-26 Thread Appal Energy
Motie, Technically it is still is a country of democracy and freedom of speech. Just that those in office are the principal ones who get to de-mock at any given time. Gotta tell you though...It gets old when people keep throwing around the words conservative and liberal, then attempting to tie

Re: [biofuel] US EPA, ethanol industry to meet on pollution probe

2002-05-26 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 07:14:55AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the CO coming from? It seems hardly likely it's coming from the mash, so are they using fossil fuels to dry the mash? That seems pretty stupid, they could use solar, plus burn some ethanol if it was too cloudy.

Re: Diesel-bashing - was Re: [biofuel] Sen. John Kerry (Dem.: Mass.)

2002-05-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I get out of this is that you're saying it's a project that needs doing. I am not sure that I am up to it so I will not volunteer at this time. That gives me personally a mental list of 2.5: Posting Weekly Ethanol Pricing (since none is readily available anywhere). Cleaning up my ethanol

Re: [biofuel] newsfeeds

2002-05-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, thx, I have bookmarked it. If you are looking for this kind of newsfeed you might try www.dieselnet.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM

Re: [biofuel] US EPA, ethanol industry to meet on pollution probe

2002-05-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 25 May 2002 07:55:47 -0500, you wrote: On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 05:52:59PM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: EPA said the primary source of pollution at ethanol plants was the drying process that turns the mash, or corn residue, into livestock feed. Where is the CO coming from? It

Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually what probably will happen long before that is small producers will pop up all over the place, selling bootleg biodiesel without the tax, just as we've seen with moonshine, tobacco, drugs, guns, and everything else the gov't has stupidly tried to exert onerous taxes or other controls

[biofuel] Re: 96% Ethanol

2002-05-26 Thread Ken Provost
Christian writes: I used 25% of 96¼ alcohol, and 75% of methanol to make up the amount I needed to transesterify the WVO (i.e., 100 ml WVO, 50 ml EtOH 100 ml MeOH). The result was one of the clearest batches of BD after the first setting stage. I figured that if 96¼ Ethanol was mixed in

[biofuel] US Gov't hearings

2002-05-26 Thread MH
Many of you may have already read these US gov't committee hearings regarding US ethanol and biodiesel which started with and replacement of the gasoline oxygenate fuel additive MTBE thats leading to a US farm and now US energy policy including a federal Renewable Fuels Standard. See how

[biofuel] US Gov't hearings

2002-05-26 Thread MH
I'm sorry and have posted the correct link below. Many of you may have already read these US gov't committee hearings regarding US ethanol and biodiesel which started with and replacement of the gasoline oxygenate fuel additive MTBE thats leading to a US farm and now US energy policy

Re: [biofuel] US Gov't hearings coal, wind

2002-05-26 Thread MH
MH wrote: Many of you may have already read these US gov't committee hearings regarding US ethanol and biodiesel which started with and replacement of the gasoline oxygenate fuel additive MTBE thats leading to a US farm and now US energy policy including a federal Renewable Fuels

RE: [biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel Engine Trader

2002-05-26 Thread kirk
Hey Steve What happened to your pages on seacrete or seament? Couldn't find them Kirk -Original Message- From: steve spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:05 AM To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com; biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel

Re: [biofuel] Fw: Drivers License Database - This is Scary!!!

2002-05-26 Thread craig reece
That *is* scary! Craig Greg and April wrote: Big Brother at his worst. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Lynda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 00:22 Subject: Fw: Drivers License Database This is really scary. Now you can see anyone's Drivers License on the

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel Engine Trader

2002-05-26 Thread sspence65
http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/seacrete.htm my primary domain and email are down. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve What happened to your pages on seacrete or seament? Couldn't find them Kirk -Original Message- From: steve spence [mailto:[EMAIL

[biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-26 Thread harmonseaver
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is easy for some though (making biodiesel by you and others here) is not as transparent to others. I think you're selling people short -- I'd bet that the majority of farmers would have no real trouble figuring out

[biofuel] Fw: Drivers License Database - This is Scary!!!

2002-05-26 Thread Greg and April
Big Brother at his worst. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Lynda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 00:22 Subject: Fw: Drivers License Database This is really scary. Now you can see anyone's Drivers License on the Internet, including your own! I just searched for mine