Hi:
Hold the Phone! Note I am not a lawyer (and you will need one if you keep
on the road you are traveling) So take these words considering the source.
If you use the fuel on-farm only, there are no tax consequences. If you
use it on the road there are taxes to be paid. The purpose of these
the batf only gets involved in ethanol distilling, not biodiesel.
the questions are, who do you report to, what gallonage do you report, and
who knows besides you if it's accurate?
Steve Spence
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Martin Len,
Fuel and fuel additives are technically to be registered with US
EPA. Manufacturers of biodiesel being sold either for road,
off-road or marine use must also be registered with the IRS.
Off-road fuels must meet their dye requirements.
On road biodiesel must meet ASTM D-6751 and
Martin, you should check the archives, there's a lot about this
subject here. Starting with this, from a small producer in the
Northeast USA, dated 9 Feb 2002:
This week I have been shut down by the EPA because they say I may not use the
health effects data developed by the non-profit National
Greetings,
My name is Martin Stenflo, I am part of a newly formed Biodiesel
Cooperative in Boulder, CO. Check us out at http://www.boulderbiodiesel.com
We are setting up small processors on private land and distributing it among
members of our co-op, and charging a per-gallon user fee. Is this
Some quite interesting graphics, worth going to the site and
registering to get the article (free).
http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/article_page.asp?ar=1206L2=2L3=38
The McKinsey Quarterly:
Tomorrow's cars, today's engines
That fabulous invalid the internal-combustion engine is very far from
Hi - wondering if anyone has info on new innovations in converting
agricultural and forestry wastes to ethanol. I'm aware of hydrolisis
(using sulfuric acid) and enzymes (too expensive). I've heard of
steam
and gasification. Anything on these or others?
thnx
Mike
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Sunflower
A couple of days ago I made another largish 125ltr of biodiesel, I had to let
it sit in the mixer because the first day was very cold and the mix did not
want to flow through the outlet taps and the next day I was off on a trip from
Canberra Australia to Sydney a journey of about
no confusion really. the racor filter leads to the primary input and
solenoid. the other solenoid is used to switch the returns. will change
somewhat before the next show. instead of looping the VO, and returning the
diesel to it's tank, we will loop both back to the injector pump, and add a
Now we can see exactly what Mike Finley and his friends are, as
opposed to what they claim to be.
Who the hell cares? Sure, but they run a clutch of discussion groups
allegedly devoted to alternative energy, green energy, and so on. The
two main ones are green-energy-options and allenergy,
Mike,
A company out of Colorado has a patent on using cow manure to make ethanol.
A plant using the process is going in in a town called Emerald, Wisconsin.
More info in archives.
Craig
- Original Message -
From: Michael Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Astroturf definitely.
I posted URLs to support my comments and John Grant just makes sweeping
statements. Since he doesn't respond to even such things as NREL data as
refutation to his rubbish (solar only works 25% of the time and the wind
doesn't blow after midnight--really!) I sent the
http://www.itdg.org/html/advocacy/power_to_the_people_paper.htm
Power to the People: sustainable energy solutions for the world's poor
ITDG - Practical Answers To Poverty
Sustainable energy solutions for the world's poor
Energy and poverty
Energy cooks the food we eat, it heats
Neil,
What you have would appear to be an incomplete reaction, due in
part to the low temperature, which has yielded a high percentage
of mono- and di-glycerides, which in turn has emulsified the hell
out of the original fluid.
Be careful with heating!!! Chemists have a term for the type of
cow manure to ethanol? where are the starches and sugars?
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/agcomm/writing/2001/012201b.htm says
Gasification, Koger explained, is the process of burning a substance in a
low-oxygen environment to convert complex organic compounds to gases. Koger
and van Kempen plan
more info:
Manure-to-Ethanol Research Being Expanded
For more than a year, North Carolina State University scientists have
successfully collected hog manure and dried it to produce ethanol using an
under-slat belt system in a laboratory. They have now graduated to a
belt-collection system
on 7/21/02 6:13 AM, Keith Addison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.itdg.org/html/advocacy/power_to_the_people_paper.htm
Power to the People: sustainable energy solutions for the world's poor
Keith - I still look at our humble VEG-Therm and think water heater - we
can do 12V or a
Kirk,
It's been going on for two years there. First Finley gave
.sorry..I can't bring myself to say the name
without vomiting.(urp!) protected status, then turned
the list over to Bowers, who has followed suit.
Would it surprise you that when (urp!) claimed
Is anyone out there currently developing a direct ethanol fuel cell
with sizeable power, say 6-kilowatts power output?
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Some quite interesting graphics, worth going to the site and
registering to get the article (free).
http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/article_page.asp?ar=1206L2=2L3=38
The McKinsey Quarterly:
Tomorrow's cars, today's engines
That fabulous invalid the internal-combustion engine is very far from
I'm not in favor of nuclear energy
because of hazardous waste build up, etc.
One concern nuclear proponents express quoted impart from:
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/opinions01/062701_opinions_energy4.shtml
The Albuquerque Tribune
Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S.A.
June 27, 2001
I know, and I got tired of the BS, and left the so called
green-energy-options list.
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 03:30
Subject: [biofuel] Anti-renewable energy - was Re: Science Fiction or
Hi - wondering if anyone has info on new innovations in converting
agricultural and forestry wastes to ethanol. I'm aware of hydrolisis
(using sulfuric acid) and enzymes (too expensive). I've heard of
steam
and gasification. Anything on these or others?
thnx
Mike
+
Turns out I can't count on wild mustard (from the orchards
anyway) as a source of oil. The whole idea with green manure
is to plow it under when it's still green (duh), and the mustard
seeds don't get mature til the stem they're on is brown and dry
like straw. Oh well. So I gotta grow my own (as
I have a 1980 VW Dasher I bought to run on biodiesel. I didnt think
it would be hard to find out which hoses and seals needed to be
replaced, but neither my mechanic or the VW company knows what the
parts are made of and thus have no way of knowing if any need to be
replaced. I understand
Robert - if cost is the issue, SVO/WVO is one answer. Lower cost, no need to
change over seals and lines. We've run VW's, Mercedes, Ford on SVO to date.
Edward Beggs, BES, MSc
Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Located in the Okanagan Valley, British Columbia, Canada
1-250-768-3169 Fax: 1-250-768-3118
Great Ken, strength to yer arm (both fig. and lit.!). Is that a
Mafuti Mali press you bought? Interested to know what it cost you, if
you don't mind my asking.
Pity about the mustard - yup, green manure's no use already once it's
gone to seed. Are those Russian-type oilseed sunflowers? Sounds
Keith wrote:
Is that a Mafuti Mali press you bought? Interested to know what it
cost you, if you don't mind my asking.
The Mafuta Mali was developed quite awhile back, in Kenya I think.
This is a newer incarnation with the piston BETWEEN the handle
and the cage (instead of behind the cage).
Keith:
oops -- ApproTec ram press $225 without base.
Shipping from Tanzania to San Fran ~ $700 (!!!)
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Keith:
oops -- ApproTec ram press $225 without base.
Shipping from Tanzania to San Fran ~ $700 (!!!)
Ouch!
They wouldn't sell you plans?
You're dead right about hybrids being a racket. Well, commercial
hybrids anyway. I didn't know there was an OP Russian oilseed
sunflower, interesting,
During the fifteen months green-energy-options has existed Mike Finley has
extended more kind remarks, endorsements and referrals to Keith Addison and
Steve Spence than anybody else. Mike remarked frequently how impressive the
journeytoforever website was and how valuable the internet service
During the fifteen months green-energy-options has existed Mike Finley has
extended more kind remarks, endorsements and referrals to Keith Addison and
Steve Spence than anybody else. Mike remarked frequently how impressive the
journeytoforever website was and how valuable the internet service
Only those who refuse to listen to scientific fact believe that hydrogen
from electrolysis will be a source of fuel. Mike wouldn't listen, obviously
you won't either. I never said nanotech wasn't important, but that it's not
the end all answer for everything we don't have an answer for. your
I've cut into this thread mid-stream. Sorry for
interrupting.
If it's not too much trouble, could you please explain
why H2 will never be a source of fuel??
I've always thought that, although probably never
being a start performer, H2 will bound to be found
somewhere in our energy future. Why
If I can cut in as well, hydrogen fuel success is still a ways off of
course, and still very expensive, but don't toss it.
See Iceland's efforts, for one.
http://www.lv.is/lv.nsf/pages/hydrogen_society-ens.html
It will depend on circumstances and economics. Those are not so
predictable. But
on 7/21/02 8:50 PM, steve spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only those who refuse to listen to scientific fact believe that hydrogen
from electrolysis will be a source of fuel.
Steve Spence
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That's Bob huh? Wouldn't be Bob Unforth? The same guy who shoots
down every post about wind, solar and other AE at the same site
in question, with over escalated pricing and under valued wind
and capacity factors? The same guy almost everyone with half a
brain has taken to task for repeatedly
Mr. Spence, The intelligent directing of molecules has very, very broad
possible applications. One of those important, potential applications is
breaking the H2 and O bond in water WITHOUT electroylisis. No one has suggested
electroylisis is a cost effective means of producing hydrogen,
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