[biofuels-biz] interface layer- was some clarification

2002-09-04 Thread goatindustries
Todd, I hope that you're interested in pursuing this discussion, but I understood that most feedstocks contain palmitic and stearic acid components (rapeseed, sunflower, seseme, mustard, groundnut),so which one did you use that contained none of these acid components?

[biofuels-biz] EREN Network News -- 09/04/02

2002-09-04 Thread EREN
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Re: [biofuels-biz] interface layer- was some clarification

2002-09-04 Thread Appal Energy
Paddy, A bit curious as to why you would perceive there to be no interest in pursuing biofuels discussion. That is, after all, what this list is dedicated towards. As you know, your understanding is correct. Most if not all vegetable oils have some palmitic and stearic fatty acid content. (I'm

[biofuels-biz] Cracking

2002-09-04 Thread Lee Sheppard
On the subject of carbon changes and temperature. Couldn't the oil be run though a cracking unit to get the right carbon chain length. So that the diesel would gel at a lower temperature. What would be involved in building a unit that would handle 50 to 100 gallons at a time?

Re: [biofuel] Diesel fuel pumps.

2002-09-04 Thread Neil and Adele Craven
Hello Phillip. AFAIK the pumps are all mechanically driven, though some have electronic control over injection timings etc. Not sure of the pressure that the pump operates at but the opening pressure on the injectors in my 80 series Diesel landcruiser are 17,652 - 18633 kPa Thus the pump

[biofuel] End of Fossil Fuels

2002-09-04 Thread shajijamesp
when are we going to exhaust fossil fuels, can any one tell me how scientifically this is estimated. Shaji Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM

Re: [biofuel] End of Fossil Fuels

2002-09-04 Thread Steve Spence
no one really knows, and odds are they will never really be exhausted. It will just become much more expensive to obtain them. 30-40 years maybe for oil.. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages -

Re: [biofuel] End of Fossil Fuels

2002-09-04 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Shaji, This is estimated in several ways, depending on who is doing the estimates. The most usual value is Known Oil Reserves divided by Yearly Oil Production (R/P), which theoretically should give you the number of years that you can continue to produce oil. In this case it is no

Re: [biofuel] Diesel fuel pumps.

2002-09-04 Thread jokefalcon
So that'd be about 260 PSI? What's the pressure of the cumbustion in a diesel? Does the pump have to withstand the cumbustion pressure, or is there a check valve somewhere? Thanks! On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:07:19 +1000 Neil and Adele Craven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Phillip. AFAIK

RE: [biofuel] What is the smallest displacement diesel engine used in common automobiles?

2002-09-04 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Christopher, I have a second hand italian Fiat Uno DS, 1989's, it comes with a 1.3 L, 4 cylinder, diesel engine with 5 speed gear. The engine, clucht or the drive system has nothing unusuall in their construction, but no Air Cond. Small 5 door for 5 slender adults, very much like the WV

Re: [biofuel] Re: peanut oil

2002-09-04 Thread Grahams
At 07:34 PM 9/3/2002 -0700, you wrote: To get off my high horse a bit, why would peanuts (or any other crop, for that matter) EVER become more expensive to grow than what they are worth? Does this happen because of the high costs of water, pesticides, herbicides, plow blades, combines,

[biofuel] Was peanut oil now soybeans

2002-09-04 Thread studio53
Japan imports a lot of their rice for the same reason. For one thing, they can't make enough because they just don't have the wetland acreage to plant rice and also the demand is so great that it's actually shipped in. Also large conglomerates, Skippy, own a lot of the land that they get the

Re: [biofuel] Re: peanut oil

2002-09-04 Thread Keith Addison
At 07:34 PM 9/3/2002 -0700, you wrote: To get off my high horse a bit, why would peanuts (or any other crop, for that matter) EVER become more expensive to grow than what they are worth? Does this happen because of the high costs of water, pesticides, herbicides, plow blades, combines,

Re: [biofuel] Was peanut oil now soybeans

2002-09-04 Thread Keith Addison
Japan imports a lot of their rice for the same reason. For one thing, they can't make enough because they just don't have the wetland acreage to plant rice They keep a million acres out of production Jesse - or is it hectares? and also the demand is so great that it's actually shipped in. Also

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread womplex_oo1
According to Iogen only a small amount of cereal straw is mixed back into the soil. The larger fraction is actually sent to a landfill or burned by farmers. This is what makes it a good, albeit limited, feedstock for their bioethanol plant. My plan removes the supply of cellulose from the

Re: [biofuel] Was peanut oil now soybeans

2002-09-04 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Just a note once again that soybeans may not the best choice, and certainly are not the only one - Sunflower, canola/rapeseed, mustard, nut trees, palm, coconut, jatropha, honge... The list goes on! Lots of choices that yield higher, some are inedible, some are edible, some are trees (nice!)

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread Keith Addison
womplex_oo1 wrote: According to Iogen I wouldn't regard them as any authority on such issues. only a small amount of cereal straw is mixed back into the soil. The larger fraction is actually sent to a landfill or burned by farmers. They're probably right about that, to an extent. But ...

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread Hakan Falk
Maybe I am out of wack on this, but I know about the disasters in North Atlantic when it get a centigrade higher temperature than normal. The poison algae are killing fish stocks en mass. I personally think that the waters in reality are more unforgiving than the atmosphere. Only because it is

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2002-09-04 Thread EREN
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[biofuel] FW: World Petroleum Execs Ponder Social Responsibility

2002-09-04 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
-- Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:25:26 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: World Petroleum Execs Ponder Social Responsibility World Petroleum Execs Ponder Social Responsibility RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil, September 3, 2002 (ENS) - Executives of the

RE: [biofuel] Was peanut oil now soybeans

2002-09-04 Thread jim kraft
What is the current price of surplus soybean oil. I have made BD from WVO and from soybean oil, and the soy oil gives a much cleaner (more valuable???) glycerin layer at the bottom. I understand that glycerin is very hard to purify and get it to where it is an economically valuable co-product.

Re: [biofuel] Diesel fuel pumps.

2002-09-04 Thread Neil and Adele Craven
There is no back pressure on the pump. The injector needle closes it is like a one way valve. To work out the pressure in the combustion chamber you could multiply the capacity of the cylinder by the compression ratio, assuming the air entering is at one atmosphere. If it is forced

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: womplex_oo1 Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 07:55 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing According to Iogen only a small amount of cereal straw is mixed back into the soil. The larger fraction is actually sent to a landfill or

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread womplex_oo1
By removing waste cellulose from farms, you don't have a chance to renew the soil, that is the problem with sending it to a landfill. I have a hard time What I meant was *moving* the cellulose supply-line from farm-based crops to ocean-based crops. Removing was a bad choice of words.

Re: [biofuel] McDonald to use healthier oil

2002-09-04 Thread craig reece
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[biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread Keith Addison
womplex_oo1 wrote: Well I think it's a good idea. So there. What that demonstrates is that you're not prepared to think at all. Keith --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: womplex_oo1 wrote: According to Iogen I wouldn't regard them as any authority on

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: womplex_oo1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 19:23 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing I suggested artificial platforms, like scaffolding, suspended 15 meters under water beneith

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread womplex_oo1
The USDA Food Nutrient Database provides the following data: Seaweed, Kelp, Raw (amounts per 100 gram sample) -- Energy = 43 Kcal Water = 81.58 g Protein = 1.68 g Lipids = 0.56 g Carbohydrates = 9.57 g Fiber = 1.3 g Ash = 6.61 g Refuse = 0 Compare this data with food we know

RE: [biofuel] Was peanut oil now soybeans

2002-09-04 Thread Gringo VaLaCasa
Most all commodities (established world markets) have aset of protocols/standards. Purchasing peanuts (raw/processed) are usually USDA No.1 and not the peanuts (standards used) for making peanut butter. Peanut butter is used from broken and unsellable (non USDA #1) peanuts. What you are

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-04 Thread womplex_oo1
The USDA Food Nutrient Database provides the following data: Seaweed, Kelp, Raw (amounts per 100 gram sample) -- Energy = 43 Kcal Water = 81.58 g Protein = 1.68 g Lipids = 0.56 g Carbohydrates = 9.57 g Fiber = 1.3 g Ash = 6.61 g Refuse = 0 Once you squeeze out all the water,