[biofuels-biz] OT: US Organic certification program

2002-10-23 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/oneworld/20021022/wl_oneworld/1032_1035286016 This story is a bit different then what I heard on the radio. I heard there are three tiers: 100% organic Organic and then some other lesser tier. MM Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [biofuels-biz] (no subject)

2002-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
Stilletoe1 wrote: PREanyone got any information about how to utilise waste engine oil as a fuel for diesel engines? It's been discussed a couple of times at the Biofuel list, you should find info in the archives. Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--

[biofuels-biz] Re: Biodiesel for the Far East

2002-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
Dear Keith, I wrote to you a few days ago but got no reply. I am in Hong Kong right now but will fly to SFO tomorrow. Where are you now? Our company wants to secure a good and inexpensive supply of biodiesel, 1-2,000 tons per month. Do you know anybody who can do it? It is for use in a

[biofuels-biz] EREN Network News -- 10/23/02

2002-10-23 Thread EREN
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Re: Visit to Japan

2002-10-23 Thread richard lee
Dear Keith, Thanks for the biodiesel info. We are talking to OceanAir right now. But I always wonder what is the real going price of biodiesel. Nobody can give me a straight answer yet. Where in Japan are you? There is a possibility thatI may visit Japan in early November. Maybe we can talk a bit

[biofuels-biz] Re: Visit to Japan

2002-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Richard Dear Keith, Thanks for the biodiesel info. We are talking to OceanAir right now. But I always wonder what is the real going price of biodiesel. Nobody can give me a straight answer yet. :-) OceanAir is part of World Energy. World Energy's Graham Noyes is a member of this

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: [biofuels-biz] CALL TO ACTION- USDA CUTTING SUPPORT FOR BIODIESEL PRODUCTION

2002-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:12:47 EDT Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] CALL TO ACTION- USDA CUTTING SUPPORT FOR BIODIESEL PRODUCTION There is a world of difference between what we do on a small scale in our back porch and what it will take for a

[biofuel] OT: US Organic certification program

2002-10-23 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/oneworld/20021022/wl_oneworld/1032_1035286016 This story is a bit different then what I heard on the radio. I heard there are three tiers: 100% organic Organic and then some other lesser tier. MM Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[biofuel] OT: everything in their power

2002-10-23 Thread murdoch
Does anyone still think the Gov. is doing everything in their power to promote renewable energy and reduce dependance on foreign Oil? This concept, that when we have a major issue, where governmental action or effort is expected, that we expect an across-the-board effort that might require

Re: [biofuel] OT: US Organic certification program

2002-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/oneworld/20021022/wl_o neworld/1032_1035286016 This story is a bit different then what I heard on the radio. I heard there are three tiers: 100% organic Organic and then some other lesser tier. MM A lot of the long-time organics farmers no

Re: [biofuel] OT: everything in their power

2002-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
MM wrote: Does anyone still think the Gov. is doing everything in their power to promote renewable energy and reduce dependance on foreign Oil? This concept, that when we have a major issue, where governmental action or effort is expected, that we expect an across-the-board effort that might

Re: [biofuel] OT: US Organic certification program

2002-10-23 Thread murdoch
well that was a very informative times article, but I thought I'd post the basic news about certification since it has been all over the news here and yet it was surprisingly not discussed here in this forum. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling?

[biofuel] Windside turbine

2002-10-23 Thread Marc de Piolenc
This is just a jazzed-up Savonius rotor. Can't see why they expect better efficiency from it just because it's twisted in a spiral. Sure makes it harder to build, though. Marc de Piolenc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home?

Re: [biofuel] OT: US Organic certification program

2002-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
well that was a very informative times article, but I thought I'd post the basic news about certification since it has been all over the news here and yet it was surprisingly not discussed here in this forum. It's no big deal - or rather that's just what it is, a big deal. But a step backwards.

Re: [biofuel] OT: everything in their power

2002-10-23 Thread murdoch
Likewise, when they seek to invade a country like Iraq, my reaction isn't that we shouldn't consider it (how can we not consider doing everything possible, including war, when a mass murderer is close to obtaining nuclear or other WOMD weapons?) How can you see this statement as clearcut,

Re: [biofuel] OT: everything in their power

2002-10-23 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith and MM, Israel have occupied Palestinian territory since 1967, it is now hundreds of UN resolutions to the effect that Israel should redraw and stop their oppression. Israel have applied ethnic cleansing in their country and UN have told them to stop and let refugees return. Israel

Re: [biofuel] Windside turbine

2002-10-23 Thread chris chris
Hi Mark, How's the family doing? What is a savonious rotor? I saw one being sold, if that's the one your referring too. A small round item with elesee inside. They say it can boost the power of the car. Btw, any chance of doing businesss in your town? Kinda short off the budget. Haaay

Re: [biofuel] OT: US Organic certification program

2002-10-23 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I personally looked at the program, years ago and decided that certified wasn't going to happen. The regulation were ridiculous then, now they are worse. I would encourage everyone who possibly can to join a farmer coop, a produce coop or to buy from places that list their meat on

[biofuel] EREN Network News -- 10/23/02

2002-10-23 Thread EREN
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Re: [biofuel] OT: US Organic certification program

2002-10-23 Thread Greg and April
Sorry to say it, but, it will happen, because the big farming companies will want it to happen because it is good business for them. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 06:35 Subject: Re:

Re: [biofuel] OT: everything in their power

2002-10-23 Thread Hakan Falk
At 03:00 AM 10/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: snip of questions that I already answered As to energy policy 1. It is blatantly obvious that the present Administration has not done everything in its power to help the US get on a better footing with respect to domestic energy policy. Conflict of

Re: [biofuel] OT: everything in their power

2002-10-23 Thread Doug Foskey
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:04, you wrote: At 03:00 AM 10/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: snip of questions that I already answered As to energy policy 1. It is blatantly obvious that the present Administration has not done everything in its power to help the US get on a better footing with respect

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: US Organic certification program

2002-10-23 Thread Hakan Falk
I said that politicians can be egoistic, ignorant, dishonest and work for corporate interests instead of peoples interest, but I never said that they are not smart. This Organic Certification Program is a good example of if you can't beat them. join them strategy, very often used by

Re: [biofuel] OT: everything in their power

2002-10-23 Thread Hakan Falk
It will be very interesting to read, if you find it. Hakan At 06:59 AM 10/24/2002 +1000, you wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:04, you wrote: At 03:00 AM 10/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: snip of questions that I already answered As to energy policy 1. It is blatantly obvious that the

[biofuel] Spin Was: everything in their power

2002-10-23 Thread Curtis Sakima
Sigh . I think the spin is starting to work... the masses are starting to overcome the inertia, the river of cattle starting to flow as the spin doctors have intended. As America chants how everything we do has the blessings of God ... truth and right. I fear to consider where we are

[biofuel] refitting an 82 rabbit diesel to burn biodiesel

2002-10-23 Thread Thor Skov
My partner just purchased an '82 diesel rabbit truck (one of the very few small diesel trucks we could find). I was trying to persuade her to get a Unimog, but unfortunately she insisted (correctly) that it was a bit much for urban use. Anyway, I understand that we'll have to refit this with