Re: [biofuels-biz] Q: price for glycerine in EU?

2003-02-12 Thread Martin Brook
Cheers, what part of belgium r u in? - Original Message - From: Winny De Schryver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: RE: [biofuels-biz] Q: price for glycerine in EU? Martin I am in Belgium. details from folks in

Re: [biofuels-biz] cost of gasoline, ethanol mixture @ 76 stations

2003-02-12 Thread Tricia Liu
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pr020722.html http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pr020627.html - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

[biofuels-biz] Does the US tax code favor gas guzzlers?

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:26:50 +0900, you wrote: http://www.ems.org/ Environmental Media Services - facts and contacts for journalists Feb. 10 Tax Code Encourages Gas Guzzlers, Critics Say A huge tax break for buyers of the largest SUVs is drawing sharp Interesting. EVworld.com carried an

Re: [biofuels-biz] cost of gasoline, ethanol mixture @ 76 stations

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:42:27 -0800, you wrote: http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pr020722.html BP, Shell Oil Products US, and ExxonMobil have announced they will join Phillips and provide MTBE-free gasoline to California in 2003. The last time I was at a Shell station I think they still had MTBE.

[biofuels-biz] storage tanks

2003-02-12 Thread Jack Young
Yesterday I talked to the folks at Huisman's and they thought that by the time the sale actually rolled around on Saturday they would get some tanks. If they do have some they probably won't be sold until the afternoon. The trick about getting a good deal at an auction is that you have to be

[biofuels-biz] Europe imports diesel, exports gasoline to US

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030212/1144000757_1.html Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To

[biofuels-biz] Re: California solar penalty

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I expect net metering has probably been implemented well somewhere. In Ontario, it is still not permitted. Provincial government has been muttering about changing legislation to permit it for a little less than a

[biofuels-biz] Business that isn't (was California solar penalty)

2003-02-12 Thread Darryl McMahon
I expect this will get bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not subscribed). murdoch wrote: snip You ask and suggest if there is a business opportunity here. I think Darryl's website seems to indicate that he's sort of in the business already here, but I don't know. I am

[biofuels-biz] Re: cost of gasoline

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
WOW!! Just saw diesel #2 at the local pump for $1.99 Now biodiesel IS competitive, without subsidies!! Then that's news. Let's spread the word. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX

[biofuels-biz] Re: cost of gasoline, ethanol mixture @ 76 stations

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
One of the ideas mentioned in the oft-mentioned Taken-for-a-Ride by Doyle is that Bush Sr. did seem somewhat to support Ethanol, as has seemingly Bush Jr. While ethanol proponents will argue that Political Support of Big Ethanol does not amount to competent support of ethanol in general, I think

[biofuel] question on acid suppliers,

2003-02-12 Thread mikedee100 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so i notice that to make a better batch of bio diesel with better results, and less ffa's, you need sulfuric acid, i have seen many recipies that include using sulfuric acid of 95% purity or higher, althogh i am not finding any info on where to get this, lol with out people thinking you are

[biofuel] Mi area BDers

2003-02-12 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
snip Is there a co-op and individual producer in the Detroit, MI/Tri-county area willing to show me the ropes. I would gladly be an active participant in a co-op. I think it would be safer to learn from a sucessful producer(s) rather than learn by trial and error on my own. It appears

[biofuel] biodiesel using ethanol

2003-02-12 Thread kavitha palaniappan
Hi, I have dropped the idea of using acid catalyst and I started preparing biodiesel with ethanol and KOH. But, even now, I face the same problem. I just don't get two layers! I get a uniform mass of biodiesel which is orangish brown in color and its viscosity is reduced to a

Re: [biofuel] Re: banning the oil field illiteracy

2003-02-12 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Gordon Dempsey wrote: I felt that this was important to help others help themselves. As industry changes, I hope that there will be a sense of responsibility in the industry to educate in some manner, the hard working laborers who are just as important in getting the job done as

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel using ethanol

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Addison
Hi, I have dropped the idea of using acid catalyst and I started preparing biodiesel with ethanol and KOH. But, even now, I face the same problem. I just don't get two layers! I get a uniform mass of biodiesel which is orangish brown in color and its viscosity is reduced to a

[biofuel] Re: The oil in Iraq

2003-02-12 Thread Mon Lee
I was reading on evworld.com about a theory on why we are going to war. It isn't just the oil or it is only a small part of it. It seems that the oil nations are moving away from trading w/ US$ but switching to the Euro. What does that mean? The US $ will take a nose dive into the negative

[biofuel] At Last, Evidence

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Addison
Eat The State! Vol. 7, Issue #12 12 Feb. 03 A forum for anti-authoritarian political opinion, research and humor - Quotes of the Week: America has entered one of its periods of historical madness, but this is the worst I can remember: worse

[biofuel] Does the US tax code favor gas guzzlers?

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:26:50 +0900, you wrote: http://www.ems.org/ Environmental Media Services - facts and contacts for journalists Feb. 10 Tax Code Encourages Gas Guzzlers, Critics Say A huge tax break for buyers of the largest SUVs is drawing sharp Interesting. EVworld.com carried an

[biofuel] Re: cost of gasoline, ethanol mixture @ 76 stations

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:42:27 -0800, you wrote: http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pr020722.html BP, Shell Oil Products US, and ExxonMobil have announced they will join Phillips and provide MTBE-free gasoline to California in 2003. The last time I was at a Shell station I think they still had MTBE.

[biofuel] storage tanks

2003-02-12 Thread Jack Young
Yesterday I talked to the folks at Huisman's and they thought that by the time the sale actually rolled around on Saturday they would get some tanks. If they do have some they probably won't be sold until the afternoon. The trick about getting a good deal at an auction is that you have to be

RE: [biofuel] US News and World Report: Cover Story

2003-02-12 Thread Ryan Morgan, Aerials Express
Interestingly enough your website may have contributed to this article in a round about way. About a month ago, US News asked for reader reaction to the question, What would Jesus drive? I couldn't resist and sent in a letter that was later published on their website. I closed with a reference

Re: [biofuel] Sorry about multiple postings...

2003-02-12 Thread Greg and April
I have had that probleb a time or two my self. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 21:12 Subject: [biofuel] Sorry about multiple postings... Sorry about the multiple postings. Glitch in MS OE.

Re: [biofuel] tax credits for biodiesel-capable cars as alternative fuel vehicles

2003-02-12 Thread malcolm.scott
Yes, it's very simple. Apply a higher tax to fossil diesel fuel than bio-diesel fuel. From: Thor Skov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/02/11 Tue PM 10:26:14 GMT To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] tax credits for biodiesel-capable cars as alternative fuel vehicles [Non-text

[biofuel] Europe imports diesel, exports gasoline to US

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030212/1144000757_1.html Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your

Re: [biofuel] tax credits for biodiesel-capable cars as alternative fuel vehicles

2003-02-12 Thread Greg and April
The trick is to get more people to own and drive diesels in the first place. Why not first reduce the taxes on dino-diesel to make it more atractive to use a diesel powered vehical, until the public pefers to gas powered vehicals, then raise the taxes to make it preferable to use biodiesel? Once

[biofuel] way to dry ethanol

2003-02-12 Thread mikedee100 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so does this work to dry ethanol, does anyone know or tryed it?, try the secnd like first, it is alink from the fist link posted, about 1/4 down the page http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html#anhydrous `leads to this link, wich seems faily simple and cheap

RE: [biofuel] methanol to Africa

2003-02-12 Thread Fred Enga
Hello Tim, I have had a positive response from one of our methanol distributors in Germany, who has expressed interest in meeting your requirements. The contact is Thomas Mattis VLC - GmbH Bahnstrasse 30 - 32 Fon: + 49 6103 922 409 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps you Fred Enga

Re: [biofuel] Re: cost of gasoline

2003-02-12 Thread James Slayden
WOW!! Just saw diesel #2 at the local pump for $1.99 Now biodiesel IS competitive, without subsidies!! On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, murdoch wrote: Taxes on fuels are always something worth keeping in mind, but it is not the tax component which has changed recently, at all (unless there has been

[biofuel] Re: The oil in Iraq

2003-02-12 Thread MH
Mon Lee wrote: I was reading on evworld.com about a theory on why we are going to war. It isn't just the oil or it is only a small part of it. It seems that the oil nations are moving away from trading w/ US$ but switching to the Euro. What does that mean? The US $ will take a nose

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel using ethanol

2003-02-12 Thread James Slayden
sounds like GLOP!! Have you done the tirtations for the oil? tell us a little about the oil your using. James Slayden On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, kavitha palaniappan wrote: Hi, I have dropped the idea of using acid catalyst and I started preparing biodiesel with ethanol and KOH. But, even

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel using ethanol

2003-02-12 Thread James Slayden
Whoops, forgot to note about the creamish color of your wash, that was emulsion, which usually indicates that your process didn't go far enough in the begining. Put all your calculations together and send it to the list for review and there will be some great responses. James Slayden On Wed,

RE: [biofuel] Huge Fee Increases Proposed for Solar Energy in Ca l ifornia

2003-02-12 Thread Crabb, David
I apologize for not being more clear in my question. I can see that it is as you say.. control and greed. What I am interested in is the reason given for the proposed increase. I hardly think they are going to say: We propose increases because we want to increase our 'under the table' payouts

[biofuel] Parallel gen system, was: California solar penalty

2003-02-12 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Moti. I would like to share a real case from an electrical system independent from a public power grid that later became parallel. I work in a textile cotton mill established in 1929 in Pilar, a small town in Paraguay, in its beginning it had to generate its own electricity, it used to

Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq

2003-02-12 Thread milliontc
I have an old friend who has lived in the USA for the last 15 years (he's English) I recently wrote the following to him... We're all waiting for the war here in the expectation that it will turn the local economy down a few notches. I've yet to meet a single person in support. What are your

[biofuel] Business that isn't (was California solar penalty)

2003-02-12 Thread Darryl McMahon
I expect this will get bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not subscribed). murdoch wrote: snip You ask and suggest if there is a business opportunity here. I think Darryl's website seems to indicate that he's sort of in the business already here, but I don't know. I am

Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq

2003-02-12 Thread Greg and April
I personaly think he is right. Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 14:05 Subject: Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq I have an old friend who has lived in the USA for the last 15 years (he's English) I

Re: [biofuel] banning the oil field illiteracy

2003-02-12 Thread Lisa
The problem with oil field service is that the guys work so many hours, 60 to 80 a week is standard. How do they find time to study? This is the problem we find with many working illiterates, the jobs they get pay so poorly that they have to work tons of overtime to support a family.

[biofuel] my first batch, got some questions

2003-02-12 Thread mikedee100 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so i made my first batch of bioD, i don't know if i got it right i used the test batch meathod, wich is very easy, maybe you guys can help me, i used a drygas that said it was methanol, and lye, and brand new vegtible oil, but, it seems to me that the batch didn't work well althoe it is still

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel using ethanol

2003-02-12 Thread girl mark
no it doesn't mark At 12:21 PM 2/12/2003 -0800, you wrote: sounds like GLOP!! Have you done the tirtations for the oil? tell us a little about the oil your using. James Slayden On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, kavitha palaniappan wrote: Hi, I have dropped the idea of using acid catalyst and I

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel using ethanol

2003-02-12 Thread James Slayden
hrmm, in re-reading kavitha post It sounds like something else. Maybe just a partially reacted batch. I wonder if a re-reaction w/ 3.5gm/L of lye would have pushed the reaction to completion. James On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, girl mark wrote: no it doesn't mark At 12:21 PM 2/12/2003 -0800,

[biofuel] Re: cost of gasoline

2003-02-12 Thread murdoch
WOW!! Just saw diesel #2 at the local pump for $1.99 Now biodiesel IS competitive, without subsidies!! Then that's news. Let's spread the word. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send

Re: [biofuel] Business that isn't (was California solar penalty)

2003-02-12 Thread Hakan Falk
Welcome to the Club Darryl, For more than 30 years me and my friends have been involved in simulations of energy transmission in buildings. We have been instrumental in getting Sweden way ahead of the rest of the world, with the most advanced Building Codes. Only the direct projects that has

Re: [biofuel] my first batch, got some questions

2003-02-12 Thread girl mark
My first question is did you do a titration? often if something like that happens there is either not enough of something, or not enough agitation (probably not your problem in a blender) or the temperature is a factor (which is kind of rare for a blender batch). it sounds like you got a

RE: [biofuel] US News and World Report: Cover Story

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Addison
Interestingly enough your website may have contributed to this article in a round about way. About a month ago, US News asked for reader reaction to the question, What would Jesus drive? I couldn't resist and sent in a letter that was later published on their website. I closed with a reference

Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Addison
I personaly think he is right. Greg H. There's been a lot of information - as opposed to opinionated frothings - posted here in the last few days, and previously, that scotches everything he says in at least three different ways. But he's right? Keith - Original Message - From:

Re: [biofuel] US News and World Report: Cover Story

2003-02-12 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: You think Jesus would drive a diesel with biodiesel in it? I guess he would at that. And/or a bicycle. I dunno... I like donkeys, I wish I had a donkey. A teenaged boy wanted to get his driver's license, so he approached his father and asked if he could take a

Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq

2003-02-12 Thread MH
Iraq didn't bomb the US but the US/UK continues bombing Iraq. U.S. Bombing Watch: When was the last time the U.S. Bombed Iraq? Archive from 2000 to 2003 Colorado Campaign for Middle East Peace http://www.ccmep.org/usbombingwatch/2003.htm The bombing continues in Iraq and the

Re: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-12 Thread MH
motie wrote: http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/7230/view/print Secret Draft Of `Patriot II' Justice Department Drafts Sweeping Expansion Of Anti-Terrorism Act Charles Lewis is the founder and executive director of the Center for Public Integrity. Adam Mayle is a James R. Soles