Re: [biofuels-biz] Hydrogen and Asia's richest businessman Li Ka-shing

2003-07-12 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM I think Li Ka-shing probably is still Asia's richest businessman, and yes, that's VERY rich. Usual story, Shanghai businessman who fled the Maoists in 1949 and arrived in Hong Kong with nothing but a container-load of gold... Naah, that's the old joke about them. K.S. Li didn't arrive

Re: [biofuels-biz] Hydrogen and Asia's richest businessman Li Ka-shing

2003-07-12 Thread murdoch
Thanks, this is very interesting, I didn't know any of it. I think if you have someone who is of Bill-Gates's level of determination, and has some proportion of Gates's wealth, then you have a serious force for Hydrogen at work in the world. A bet on Stuart is a bet on pure Hydrogen, I guess.

[biofuels-biz] Long replies

2003-07-12 Thread Chuck Ranum
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[biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread Alan Petrillo
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0709-02.htm Monsanto's case is 100.0% manure. As their lawyer's claim that the world won't be able to feed itself without GMO. And, you'll note, they decided to take on a small dairy instead of someone like Parmalat or Suiza, both of which have brands

Re: [biofuel] Extreme Threat To Class Action Lawsuits

2003-07-12 Thread Hakan
Keith, This is only one more thing, in the complex determination of the American society to self destruct. I have never understood Bin-Laden's and others attempt to terrorist attacks in US. For me, it looks like the US lobbying system is much more efficient and also legal. It is very

Re: [biofuel] Extreme Threat To Class Action Lawsuits

2003-07-12 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hakan I'm afraid I agree. :-( But, as we've said before, you and I both, and others here including many from the US, there's America (Washington) and then there are Americans, not at all the same thing. The thoroughly-spun, obedient, programmed part of the population that goes along with

Re: [biofuel] some perspective on natural gas pricing

2003-07-12 Thread murdoch
Looks like a serious project. My own focus is on the sociopolitics of this. So what I want to say in response is that a couple of years ago, during the Wester-States Energy crisis, we all got a taste of how some American citizens would react to an upsetting of their electricity and natural gas

Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen and Asia's richest businessman Li Ka-shing

2003-07-12 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM I think Li Ka-shing probably is still Asia's richest businessman, and yes, that's VERY rich. Usual story, Shanghai businessman who fled the Maoists in 1949 and arrived in Hong Kong with nothing but a container-load of gold... Naah, that's the old joke about them. K.S. Li didn't arrive

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread Appal Energy
Yes. Well Monsanto isn't exactly known for its ethics or principles... http://nelsonfarm.net/issue.htm North Dakota Illinois Lawsuits. Monsanto forged signatures on numerous technology agreement and grower redemption forms in the attempt to mislead the courts. http://www.percyschmeiser.com/ A

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread Appal Energy
Has anyone ever noticed the vast discrepancy between the expiration dates on organic milk vs government issue milk? Government issue pasteurized usually has at best a week before it's use date is reached, with freshly stocked shelves sometimes having but a day or two's time window. Yet organic

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread gobie
- Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone ever noticed the vast discrepancy between the expiration dates on organic milk vs government issue milk? Government issue pasteurized usually has at best a week before it's use date is reached, with freshly

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread doug foskey
On Sunday 13 July 2003 09:00 am, gobie wrote: - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone ever noticed the vast discrepancy between the expiration dates on organic milk vs government issue milk? Government issue pasteurized usually has at best a week

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread gobie
- Original Message - From: doug foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where in Aus are you? It sounds like it could be NR of NSW? Greetings Doug, I'm on the Atherton Tablelands inland from Cairns Queensland. Its the location for Australia's only Tropical Dairying Area and home of the worlds longest

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread Appal Energy
Paul, With a disease free cow and clean milking techniques, cow to consumer is the way to go not only for freshness but also for taste. What I'm referring to is pasteurized 2% organic (Oregon Tilth) vs pasteurized 2% non-organic, both from auto milking environments, transportation to

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread Appal Energy
trust it. I wonder if the US powerbrokers are using pressure to make us go this way (So no competitor can be GM free, have a powerful market position) Ah well, conspiracy theory mode off regards Doug There is no theory to it. It's a bona fide fact. Been pushed for over two decades.

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread gobie
- Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, What I'm referring to is pasteurized 2% organic (Oregon Tilth) vs pasteurized 2% non-organic, both from auto milking environments, transportation to packaging houses, storage, transportation to vendors and final

RE: [biofuel] Monsanto Sues Small Dairy In Maine Over Growth Hormone Comment

2003-07-12 Thread kirk
I know religion is a loaded topic with most folk but I keep getting this nagging feeling we should pay attention when we are told to Come out of her lest we partake of her plagues. It is a commandment you know, not a suggestion. Blessings Kirk -Original Message- From: doug foskey