[biofuels-biz] Start-up of Jatropha Biodiesel Fuel Production in India

2003-11-25 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Start-up of Jatropha Biodiesel Fuel Production in India Project laid out as a public-private partnership Reduced fossil CO2 emissions in India thanks to biodiesel Jatropha plantations create jobs and reactivate the soil Stuttgart, Germany,November 18, 2003 DaimlerChrysler is launching

Re: [biofuels-biz] Malaysian palm diesel

2003-11-25 Thread Ken Gotberg
Hi Ong You can try separating beta carotene from the FAME by distillation as an additional profit center. Distillation decolorizes and gives you a clean product leaving behind the carotene. CPO is a bit cheaper and why not WVO? FYI CPO contains 500-to-3,000 ppm carotenes, mostly beta. Ken in

[biofuels-biz] Hydrogen in power generation

2003-11-25 Thread Hakan Falk
An other one. Hydrogen in power generation. by Hakan Falk, Energy Saving Now http://energy.saving.nu/hydrogen/hydrogenpower.shtml One of the most controversial energy discussions, is the current US promotion of hydrogen usage in the transportation sector. We, among many others, have the

[biofuels-biz] Re: Biogas in Fuel Cells

2003-11-25 Thread murdoch_1998
It would be fantastic to see fuel cells fueled by fuel that is sustainably derived. It's a pity we don't see more news items and research projects like this. I guess you could say that the issue of sustainable derivation of fuel cell fuels is subsumed by the topic of use of Hydrogen in fuel

Re: [biofuels-biz] The Grid

2003-11-25 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Bill, I agree with you and it is a good term active distribution grid. Even if I know the exact terms in my native language Swedish, I need education in English. I somewhat share your pessimism and assume that you are referring to US in this case. It is also applicable for other

Re: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-25 Thread Steven Helen Hobbs
Darren, what a find...a really exciting report. This oil is nothing more than cold pressed and well filtered oil (5um). NO degumming . My understanding of de-centralised oil production in Germany (from German friends) is that it is very simple (KISS principle...Keep It Simple Stupid) and is

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: [Burnveggies] NBB: Homemade biodiesel fuel not a good idea

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Addison
From: Kael Doan-Loftus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Burnveggies] NBB: Homemade biodiesel fuel not a good idea Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:53:23 -0800 (PST) This item speaks for itself: http://www.gazettenet.com/story.cfm?id_no=11170004 This letter was prompted by the

[biofuels-biz] Corporations and Their Proxies Defeated in Miami -- But They Refuse to Give Up

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2003/000167.html Corporations and Their Proxies Defeated in Miami -- But They Refuse to Give Up By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Fri, 14 Nov 2003 There was good news and bad news from inside the negotiations of the Ministerial meeting

Re: [biofuels-biz] Malaysian palm diesel

2003-11-25 Thread gumpon prateepchaikul
Dear Ken In Malaysia they are making biodiesel from olein palm oil and the final product is clear as beta carotene is removed during the process of making olein from crude palm oil as we did here in Thailand. But if biodiesel is produced from crude palm oil the colour is off course quite

[biofuel] Start-up of Jatropha Biodiesel Fuel Production in India

2003-11-25 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Start-up of Jatropha Biodiesel Fuel Production in India Project laid out as a public-private partnership Reduced fossil CO2 emissions in India thanks to biodiesel Jatropha plantations create jobs and reactivate the soil Stuttgart, Germany,November 18, 2003 DaimlerChrysler is launching

[biofuel] Homebrewing Biodiesel Workshop, Nov. 29, Saturday, Oakland

2003-11-25 Thread jennifer
I have a few more spaces in my class if you'll be around for Thanksgiving weekend. Email me to reserve a space. Take care, Jennifer Introduction to Homebrewing Biodiesel Workshop 10am - 3pm, Saturday, November 29, Oakland $5-10 sliding scale Learn the basics of making biodiesel, and see the

RE: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine

2003-11-25 Thread Franklin B. Del Rosario
I'm glad for your response regarding estrol brand bio 2T oil but when I inquire further as to what type of oil they are using for this bio 2T they said that it is a coconut oil and the process is esterification process by converting the virgin oil (SVO) to biodiesel or now biolube oil. I'm glad

[biofuel] Hydrogen in power generation

2003-11-25 Thread Hakan Falk
An other one. Hydrogen in power generation. by Hakan Falk, Energy Saving Now http://energy.saving.nu/hydrogen/hydrogenpower.shtml One of the most controversial energy discussions, is the current US promotion of hydrogen usage in the transportation sector. We, among many others, have the

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] The Grid

2003-11-25 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Bill, I agree with you and it is a good term active distribution grid. Even if I know the exact terms in my native language Swedish, I need education in English. I somewhat share your pessimism and assume that you are referring to US in this case. It is also applicable for other

Re: [biofuel] Homebrewing Biodiesel Workshop, Nov. 29, Saturday, Oakland

2003-11-25 Thread jkolling
i can't attend, will there be a book, video or website available later also? thanks jennifer wrote: I have a few more spaces in my class if you'll be around for Thanksgiving weekend. Email me to reserve a space. Take care, Jennifer Introduction to Homebrewing Biodiesel Workshop 10am - 3pm,

[biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread skillshare
brass, biodiesel, and air bubbles is a terrible combination. Brass contains copper and zinc, both catalysts for oxidation (I think) of biodiesel. Air bubbling is one way to speed up breakdown of biodiesel as well, very quickly. go stainless. mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, James Slayden

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread Dan Maker
skillshare said: brass, biodiesel, and air bubbles is a terrible combination. Brass contains copper and zinc, both catalysts for oxidation (I think) of biodiesel. Air bubbling is one way to speed up breakdown of biodiesel as well, very quickly. go stainless. I've seen the same sort of air

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread dcande01
so what would be a good gas to bubble through the biodiesel. Nitrogen does not strike me as a good one to use around glycerine, and Hydrogen would saturate any unsaturated biodiesel? Fred On Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003, at 14:07 US/Eastern, skillshare wrote: brass, biodiesel, and air bubbles is

Re: [biofuel] Blood, Oil, Guns And Bullets

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ken on 11/24/03 5:16 PM, Keith Addison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We must oppose the militarization of the planet in all its forms, and expose the interconnections between the hidden hand of the market and the not-so-hidden fist. To do that we need to support the grassroots

[biofuel] Fuel For School

2003-11-25 Thread William Clark
Hello to all, It is finally official. The State of Alabama gave notice to the Mayor of Eufaula, Alabama that the city will receive a grant for $50,000 to undertake a WVO to biodiesel demonstration project. The project has been discussed here before. I will be glad to send a copy of the narrative

Re: [biofuel] Fuel For School

2003-11-25 Thread Appal Energy
William, A copy of the narrative would be welcome here. Also, the cost analysis of the pilot plant, the mechanical layout, etc. It would be interesting to see how fast that $50,000 dries up and what they get for their money. Not a pessimist. Just a realist who knows well enough to fend off

[biofuel] Fwd: [Burnveggies] NBB: Homemade biodiesel fuel not a good idea

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Addison
From: Kael Doan-Loftus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Burnveggies] NBB: Homemade biodiesel fuel not a good idea Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:53:23 -0800 (PST) This item speaks for itself: http://www.gazettenet.com/story.cfm?id_no=11170004 This letter was prompted by the

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: [Burnveggies] NBB

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Addison
From: girl Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Burnveggies] NBB Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:45:24 -0800 (PST) thank you christopher for an extremely well-thought-out response! Again, it's ironic that the NBB mentions ASTM standards like those had anything to do with the fire,

Re: [biofuel] Blood, Oil, Guns And Bullets

2003-11-25 Thread Ken Provost
on 11/25/03 3:13 PM, Keith Addison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you liked that, you'd probably like this: http://site.www.umb.edu/faculty/salzman_g/Strategy/Discussion/ 2002-09-18Roy.html Yeah, she's cool too. As the professor says: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/29732/ The

Re: [biofuel] Fuel For School

2003-11-25 Thread William Clark
Todd, I understand your skepticism but please try not to take on a negative attitude. I know this is going to be difficult but, as far as I know, this is the first strictly waste vegetable oil to biodiesel project to be funded by a state agency. I have spent 2 years pushing this with public

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread Ken Provost
on 11/25/03 1:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so what would be a good gas to bubble through the biodiesel. Nitrogen does not strike me as a good one to use around glycerine, and Hydrogen would saturate any unsaturated biodiesel? Let's not get TOO

[biofuel] Fwd: Petition Against Arctic Drilling (takes 2 seconds)

2003-11-25 Thread Michael Ashton
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Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread Dan Maker
Fred, Mark already gave you the answer, it's not a matter of changing the gas, but one of changing the metal that the difuser is made from. Earlier today I posted a message saying that stainless steel difusers can be gotten, and gave McMaster - Carr as a source. BTW, air, like we breath and

[biofuel] Corporations and Their Proxies Defeated in Miami -- But They Refuse to Give Up

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2003/000167.html Corporations and Their Proxies Defeated in Miami -- But They Refuse to Give Up By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Fri, 14 Nov 2003 There was good news and bad news from inside the negotiations of the Ministerial meeting

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Petition Against Arctic Drilling (takes 2 seconds)

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Addison
No attachments allowed Michael, essential anti-virus measure. Try sending it as text within the message body. Best Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread James Slayden
Is Mark going Corp?!! ;-) hrmmm, stainless steel . Actually the same thing could be done with black steel, if someone could find the mufflers in stainless. I have yet to find them. James Slayden On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ken Provost wrote: on 11/25/03 1:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread James Slayden
So, I am going to eat crow as I looked up Dan's Reference and it is the part that one would use to do the bubbler in stainless steel. =) Thanks Dan, I really searched for one and couldn't find it. Actually, the stainless steel ones are about the same price as the bronze; $6.19 for the 1/4, and

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [Burnveggies] NBB: Homemade biodiesel fuel not a good idea

2003-11-25 Thread Appal Energy
Well? For the consumption of Kael Doan-Loftus (Burn Veggies post) and the rest of the world... 1) To avoid EPA involvement altogether with the production of biodiesel, manufacture fuel only for yourself or only release fuel to the market that has been dyed for off-road use. You'll still have to

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread Appal Energy
It is extremely doubtful that a 5 minute circulation of dehumidified, ambient temperature air through biodiesel as a last finishing step is going to set off oxidation to any appreciable degree. You have your choice of just warming the fuel and letting water settle (which, may anyone remind you,

Re: [biofuel] Fuel For School

2003-11-25 Thread Appal Energy
William, It's not a negative attitude. There is, afterall, a difference between a realist and a pessimist. You'll just have to ride herd rather tightly on the project to insure that the limitted capital will stretch far enough to achieve the desired end goal. As for pats? The boys in the

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread Appal Energy
Dan, BTW, air, like we breath and use for bubble washing, is primarily nitrogen so it would seem that bubbling nitrogen through bd doesn't cause any problems. Actually? :-) To be precise? (chuckle, chuckle...) Air is more or less comprised of: Nitrogen, N2, 78.084% Oxygen, O2, 20.947%

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Petition Against Arctic Drilling (takes 2 seconds)

2003-11-25 Thread Michael Ashton
sorry about that. well i am sure most people on the list are aware of the proposed drilling in the arctic reserve. it was simply a link to a site where one may sign an online petition. simply do a search for arctic reserve petition and you will be presented with an array of sites where you

Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine

2003-11-25 Thread Alexander P. Loinaz
Frank, Senbel has two products made from coconut for vehicle use. Estrol Biodiesel and Estrol 2T which come from the same coconut base but are completely different products. The Bio 2T is cheaper than any of the petroleum based product in the market. You might be confusing the Biodiesel for

[biofuel] Nepal/Ethanol Mix will Make Petrol Cheaper

2003-11-25 Thread Olivier Morf
Hi all, I have been a lurkers for some times. I am Swiss (from the French speaking side) living in Nepal. I am trying to learn as much as possible during my free time about biodiesel as I think that it may be a good project opportunity, both for the environnement (Kathmandu being one of the

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [Burnveggies] NBB: Homemade biodiesel fuel not a good idea

2003-11-25 Thread Michael Blake
Something often done in chemistry when distilling volatile flammable chemicals is to use a positive pressure apparatus using nitrogen gas. You usually don't want to heat a substance in a closed apparatus because pressure will build. So what you do is slowly bleed nitrogen gas through your

Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Alex Frank, Senbel has two products made from coconut for vehicle use. Estrol Biodiesel and Estrol 2T which come from the same coconut base but are completely different products. The Bio 2T is cheaper than any of the petroleum based product in the market. You might be confusing the Biodiesel

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread Appal Energy
Is Mark going Corp?!! ;-) hrmmm, stainless steel . Come on James. If shade-treers can't pony up a little capital for improved systems, they need to vacate the wrap-around porch and start sipping their tea indoors. It's a matter of both environment and utility. Certainly not profit if

[biofuel] zinc and copper etc. Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread skillshare
don't do it in the presence of catalysts like coppe4r and zinc. Unless im confusing the two isues of what zinc/copper does and what bubbling air does. anyway, read K Shaine Tyson's 'biodiesel handling and use guidelines' (online at a government website, do a search), she talks about oxidation

[biofuel] Re: Bubble Wash Assembly

2003-11-25 Thread skillshare
If it's five minutes. I've doen drying with air before and it took 24 hours, and I think most peole would do it this way. But tests that they've done for oils (search for peroxidation and biodiesel, I think one of these comes up) shows major changes within a few hours of bubbling, which means