[biofuel] Bashing biodiesel (esp. homebrew) online

2004-08-07 Thread Pool, Ryan
I've just had this thread brought to my attention on thedieselpage.com. There looks to be a lot of people over there bashing biodiesel as holding too much water and potentially destroying the high pressure injection systems on the Chevrolet duramax diesel. They are being especially harsh

Re: [biofuel] Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hi Todd, Thanks for the advice. I actually was in error regarding the separation time, it's more like 10 to 15 minutes. Sorry about that, I did not have enough coffee in my system I made that error. As to the washings, the ones in question were only a couple of hours in duration. The most

RE: [biofuel] Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread Teoman Naskali
I am also in the process of washing my first batch. It has had one wash so far. When it came in contact with water it turned completely milky white. And did not separate for about 15 minutes. And I think some chemical reaction took place as the quantity of gas in the container (2.5l cocacola

[biofuel] WVO storage and titration

2004-08-07 Thread Teoman Naskali
I have just found 2 sources for my wvo, university cantines, they produce quite a lot of wvo. When I collect the wvo can I put it all in one tank (after it has been filtered ofcourse)and then titrate it? (since I get like 10 kg at a time). The first sample that I have received (3 liters) has

[biofuel] 2 stage method questions

2004-08-07 Thread Teoman Naskali
I have just bought some phosphoric acid which is rated at 87%, and the foolproof method says that it should be 10%, what should I do? Use less or dilute it (with what) 8. Mix gently at LOW rpm (don't splash!) while keeping the temperature at 35 deg C. The rotation of your stirrer should not

[biofuel] Freezing the water out

2004-08-07 Thread Teoman Naskali
Just another ramdom thought, Couldn't you freeze the water out of the oil? Or rather freeze the oil out of the water?? In places like finland all you have to do is leave it out overnight and then pour out the oil, or water, whichever one is frozen. Or maby an ammonium system like previously

[biofuel] Searching the archives

2004-08-07 Thread Teoman Naskali
Is ther a more effective way of searching the archives? It seems like when I search it searches only the mails displayed on the page, so for older messages I have to keep pressing the next page button. Just my ignorance :-( Thanks Teoman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[biofuel] Re: Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread Matt Pozzi
I realise that mostly no where else cooks in animal fats, but here is Australia they use beef tallow. This has a very high beta carotene levels due to the feed the animals eat, grass, this makes lovely burgundy coloured biodiesel which like shorteneing has a higher cetane rating due to the

Re: [biofuel] Re: Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread Gregg Davidson
Thanks Matt. I'm anxious to see how this will do when mixed. You're the second list member that has advised me of the higher cetane rating. Gregg Matt Pozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realise that mostly no where else cooks in animal fats, but here is Australia they use beef tallow. This has

Re: [biofuel] Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread eldenrice
I often have fuel that takes four or five washes. Water content seems low, but I have upped the methanol to almost 25 percent to assure complete reaction. Also, is it 3.1 or 3.5 grams per liter? How much can mono and diglycerides hurt the engine? Surely WVO must contain some fractured

[biofuel] Re: Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread bioveging
Quality testing is explained here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality The first wash water SHOUL be milky white as that is where the greatest amount or residuals come out and then it gets clearer on the second and should be clear by the third or fourth at the most. That

[biofuel] High altatude diesel issues emmisions

2004-08-07 Thread Greg Harbican
One of the problems I have is I have too much soot in the emissions and still retaining the horsepower of my Land Cruiser. The issue seams to be with the lack of O2 at the higher altitude, so increasing the amount of fuel to the injectors would not solve the problems ( in fact it would make

Re: [biofuel] Can biofuels substitute to oil on a large scale ?

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi JŽr™me Hi, Tonight there was a programme on air on a french radio station where petro-experts debated about the rise of the price of oil, etc... Some people attending the programme could give a call and ask a question or give an opinion. The question of biofuels was brought about this way

[biofuel] How much land does it need?

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:30:09 - From: jeff_kerzner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Biofuels hold key to future of British farming I was having a discussion last night with a leading scientist in the renewable energy field about using oil-bearing crops to

Re: [biofuel] Bashing biodiesel (esp. homebrew) online

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Ryan Comments below. I've just had this thread brought to my attention on thedieselpage.com. There looks to be a lot of people over there bashing biodiesel as holding too much water and potentially destroying the high pressure injection systems on the Chevrolet duramax diesel. They

Re: [biofuel] Searching the archives

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Teoman Is ther a more effective way of searching the archives? It seems like when I search it searches only the mails displayed on the page, so for older messages I have to keep pressing the next page button. Why are you using Yahoo's archives? There's a link at the end of every message

[biofuel] Soil is not a finite resource

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Please see also these previous messages on nitrogen fertilizers: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37287/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/37298/ To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: [renewable-energy] Reply to David

Re: [biofuel] 2 stage method questions

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Teoman Please see this recent message (two days ago) on why you should not be using the Foolproof method until you have a lot more experience. It says so after all, right at the top of the page. You don't believe it, or what? http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/37345/ In fact I'll post it

Re: [biofuel] Freezing the water out

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
See: Biodiesel from waste oil http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#biodwvo Just another ramdom thought, Couldn't you freeze the water out of the oil? Or rather freeze the oil out of the water?? In places like finland all you have to do is leave it out overnight and then pour out the

[biofuel] How much fuel can we grow?

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:37:00 +0900 To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How much fuel can we grow? - was Re: The Debate Over Diesel A bit more on this, following my previous post (relevant bits below). I said it was a meaningless question whether we

[biofuel] Will fuel made from used oil meet astm spec?

2004-08-07 Thread frag_lag
Wondering , in Germany they are only allowed to use fresh oil because of this.. Here in Holland the same thing is being done as far as i know Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up

Re: [biofuel] Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Gregg People say all sorts of things about this mater of the colour, and I don't want to argue with them, but for us the straw-yellow indicator has always been a good one, and it follows through with no wash problems, what you'd expect from a good brew. So for our part we agree with what

Re: [biofuel] Will fuel made from used oil meet astm spec?

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
frag_lag wrote: Wondering , in Germany they are only allowed to use fresh oil because of this.. Here in Holland the same thing is being done as far as i know :-) I wonder how little (much) the oilseed rape interests had to do with that. Dunno about Germany and Holland, but Austria imports a

[biofuel] Palm Oil derivatives as biofuels

2004-08-07 Thread Sin-Contrato
According to the results of a major study recently completed by Eduardo del Hierro, Juan Carlos del Hierro and myself which intends to put in the proper perspective the possibilities of using palm oil derivatives ( including crude palm oil and/or palm biodiesel ), among other important aspects we

Re: [biofuel] Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hi Keith, The colour of my finished product is about the same as the WVO you used, sort of honey-coloured, but it is quite clear. I've made some digital photos that I can send to you the first part of next week, if that's okay. Since I had to wash the last batch separately, you will note

Re: [biofuel] Re: Colour of latest batch

2004-08-07 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hi L, I'll have some digital photos to post next week of the batch of BD in question. That way everyone can have a better idea of the colouring. Gregg bioveging [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quality testing is explained here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality The first

[biofuel] USDA Inc.: USDA highjacked by corporate interests

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.agribusinessaccountability.org/page/325/1 Agribusiness Accountability Initiative: USDA Inc.: How Agribusiness has hijacked regulatory policy at the US Department of Agriculture Title: USDA Inc.: How Agribusiness has hijacked regulatory policy at the US Department of Agriculture

[biofuel] These Are Their Ends

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/these_are_their_ends.php These Are Their Ends Patrick C. Doherty August 05, 2004 The commissions and the chaos have put the lie to the Bush administration's shifting rationales for war. What the media are not asking, however, is if these aren't the reasons,

RE: [biofuel] High altitude diesel issues emissions

2004-08-07 Thread Derek Sceats
Have you taken steps to improve the intake system? Is your engine turbocharged (preferably with an intercooler)? This would help get more air into the system. Just my 2 cents worth. Derek -Original Message- From: Greg Harbican [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004

[biofuel] YUKOS Gobbled up by the Putin Group

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.ecaar.org/yukos.htm Yukos YUKOS Gobbled up by the Putin Group Stanislav Menshikov SLOVO, July 23, 2004 When Khodorkovsky was arrested last year, the close to consensus explanation was the political motivation driving Vladimir Putin. That particular tycoon was allegedly

[biofuel] Park Your Ride

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
WORLD CARFREE NEWS List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] eng Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: subscribe world-carfree-news_eng List-Archive: http://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/world-carfree-news_eng --- http://www.alternet.org/envirohealth/19454/ Park Your Ride By Brian Smith,

[biofuel] Up to 100,000 deaths from air pollution over next 20 years, figures show

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.edie.net/gf.cfm?L=left_frame.htmlR=http://www.edie.net/new s/Archive/8692.cfm environmental data interactive exchange 06/08/2004 Front Page UK Europe International News Releases Up to 100,000 deaths from air pollution over next 20 years, figures show Liberal Democrat

RE: [biofuel] 2 stage method questions

2004-08-07 Thread Teoman Naskali
Sorry, just trying to avoid purchansing titration equipment. And get a good unerstanding of the processes before I start anything. I just got access to a highschool lab, if I bring my own chemicals and wash after I have used the equipment. I also had bought some isopropanol (%99 pure) with

[biofuel] Aquarium pump in dehumidifier

2004-08-07 Thread Teoman Naskali
Just wondering will it help the dehumidifying or methanol recovery processes at all if the input of the aquarium pump was set up in a manner as to suck air through a cooled copper coil from the top of the processor and then pump it to the bottom of the processor? Theoretically methanol can get

Re: [biofuel] Will fuel made from used oil meet astm spec?

2004-08-07 Thread frag lag
I know i don't need to meet astm , was just an example :) From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Will fuel made from used oil meet astm spec? Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 17:08:21 +0900 frag_lag wrote: Wondering ,

Re: [biofuel] Will fuel made from used oil meet astm spec?

2004-08-07 Thread frag lag
Anyway , is it possible to meet the european standard at home then? or is it higher then astm? From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Will fuel made from used oil meet astm spec? Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 17:08:21

Re: [biofuel] Will fuel made from used oil meet astm spec?

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
frag_lag wrote: Anyway , is it possible to meet the european standard at home then? or is it higher then astm? I gave you a link to the national standards, why don't you see for yourself? As to homebrewers meeting the EU standard, I've dealt with that in previous messages: Meeting the German

RE: [biofuel] 2 stage method questions

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Teoman Sorry, just trying to avoid purchansing titration equipment. And get a good unerstanding of the processes before I start anything. If you read the previous messages I referred you to on this, you'd see those two statements are incompatible. Anyway, how much would titration