Hello,
I've added you to my biofuels-biz group at Yahoo! Groups, a free,
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group messages, coordinate events, share photos and files, and more.
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Hello,
I've added you to my biofuels-biz group at Yahoo! Groups, a free,
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only the group
Did you consider how many kWh it would have taken for that 30 miles on
hydrogen, then compared how many miles that amount of kWh would have taken
you on a pure EV? More than 60 miles ..
But a vehicle with a range of 60 miles is of less utility to me than one
which can do 30 miles on
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As Oil Nears $54, Congress Moves to Ease E85 Blending
Jefferson City, MO - Legislation that promises to streamline often complex
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be sure and have the dealer save the fuel lines so you can post mortem the
reason.
if that years Benz's or that model has extra small lines or pronte to clogging,
let us know.
were you running SVO or bio? b100? is it cold there yet?
you may indeed have something caused by low temps as
Would going to B100 slowly help to avoid this
problem? I.e. first running B5, then B10, then B25,
etc.? I am granted a good tax deduction here in AZ if
I run B70 however I need to do an emissions test and
that has to be done before registration so my time is
limited.
I can't afford to screw
I don't think there is such a thing as a U.S. mile. Back in the 1950's my
high school teacher told us that the U.S. and Britain had agreed to
compromise on the Canadian definition of the inch as *exactly* 2.540
centimetres. So as far as the mile goes we're all on the same page:
12 inches to the
Water vapor in the short run of course has more effect
on the local weather considering rain fall and fronts
etc. However CO2 will have much more effect in the
long run considering global warming. The fact that all
the other gases comprise less than 1% of the
atmosphere means nothing. I sure you
Are you just generating electricity or are you
co-generating, using the waste heat from your diesel
engine to heat your house getting more bang for the
buck and saving even more energy. I don't know why
more residential or commercial co-generation plants
aren't used, especially in the northern
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From: Mel Riser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Running on B100
be sure and have the dealer save the fuel lines so you can post mortem the
reason.
Sounds reasonable.
if that years Benz's or
Do any one knows the chemical name or trade name of red dye to color diesel
fuel?.
Tks, F.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: Was Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government/Now ethanol
My dad
Israel also has ignored many more UN resolutions than
Iraq ever did. This is true despite the fact that the
US usually vetos most resolutions concerning Israel.
Ken
--- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
isreal is the ONLY country in the middle east that
DOES possess WMD's,
nuclear as well
i really didn't know if the us mile was the same or
different from any other form of measurement, but i
didn't want to make assumptions. that way everyone
could see right away exactly what i was talking about.
if true that's kinda funny that the inch is actually
referenced off of the
I have a 91 Acura Integra, 226k miles, original
muffler and tailpipe. Replaced the catalytic
converter 2 yrs ago. But then this is a Southern Cali
car that I've owned since '94- it had about 45,000
when I got her - haven't had to deal with a lot of
ice, sleet, snow and salt on the roads, that's
miles. It's been a long time since I've had to buy one, though, and have
had over 100,000 miles on each of my last several cars.
Brian
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From: Erik Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] fuel
csc-propulsion wrote:
Hi there,
The cost of biofuel ( be it from coconut oil, palm oil, rapeseed, soybean,
corn, sunflower, canola etc) including ethanol? Are there cost charts from
various countries to peruse? At current oil price level can crop growers
match with biofuel? Brazil
Why do you not use ethanol instead or biodiesel if the truck is a diesel?
Our primary interest is in converting wood waste into methanol. That
involves generating H2 and CO, and being able to sweeten the mix in order
to increase yield, hence our interest in ancillary ways to generate and use
YES!!! You said my favorite word in the World! TAX-FREE
People here in the US need to take note!
Jonathan
Walt Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:25 PM 10/11/04 -0400, you wrote:
Did you consider how many kWh it would have taken for that 30 miles on
hydrogen, then compared how many miles
What exactly is a US mile???
5 280 feet.
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Does anyone how this would effect hydrogen
in Mr. Bush's FreedomCAR program?
Steve Spence wrote:
Hydrogen isn't, and won't be anything that will help us save our Earth.
SNIP
That's the whole point these folks are missing. It's not that it can't be
done,
it's that it shouldn't be done,
Climate fear as carbon levels soar
Scientists bewildered by sharp rise of
CO2 in atmosphere for second year running
Paul Brown, environment correspondent
Oct 11, 2004
The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1324379,00.html
An unexplained and unprecedented
NCGA Applauds Congressional Passage of American Jobs Creation Act
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Oct 11, 2004
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ST. LOUIS, Oct. 11 /PRNewswire/ --
The National Corn Growers Association (NCGA) hailed Senate passage
today of the
Dear Luc,
The posting of your experience is invaluable to me, thank you very much.
I'm the proud new owner of a 1984 Merc 300D (5cyl turbo), and she's got
about 200,000 miles on her (motor rebuilt 20,000 ago!). Therefore, I have
every reason to believe that I'll have the exact same experience
Hey man If you can get it to work Then you will be Okay! I would not
worry about Mr. Bush anyway!
Jonathan
MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone how this would effect hydrogen
in Mr. Bush's FreedomCAR program?
Steve Spence wrote:
Hydrogen isn't, and won't be anything that will
pump mounted on the side of the injection pump. If it is hesitating or
bucking it is most likely originally caused by a bad fuel filter there
are two of them the prefilter before the fuel pump and the primary fuel
filter after the pump going back down to the injection pump inlet.
Once
will be fine. If you notice any hesitation using the svo switch to the
bd until you can change the filter. but be wary of the svo in your
tank if its virgin ok if recycled heat it until its temperature will
break 212 and it stops boiling i go to 320 and cool the oil to 150 then
filter
Doug, thanks for your supportive comment. GCMS analysis reveals that this is
99.9% clean hydrocarbon with no acids, alkalis, or heavy metals. It is not
combustible on its own and cardboard wetted with it will extingish flames so it
is most unlikely to be a mixture of diesel and biofuel, as
Erik, thanks. My impression is also that diesels do not have the same problems
that petrol has. Maybe they are now making exhausts better that they used to
only 10 years ago. This is a possibility since the introduction of catalysts
for petrol in the UK. Nonetheless, my reaction to the
Thanks for views. I wonder if US exhausts last longer than UK counterparts.
What fuel was it using? If bio maybe we are seeing amother benefit of bio?
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National
and that there is air trapped inside the injectors somewhere, although I
don't think so as I bled out the system with brand new filters, so, by
default, the problem is at the tank end (maybe?). I shall soon see as I am
having a Mercedes mechanic give it the twice over to determine EXACTLY
I too checked conversion tables and found it was not listed, so presumed the
same. In any case it still seems that US exhausts last much longer than ULK
counterparts.
Now, just to confuse, what's a Irish mile?
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent
other country once the US's cowardly veto is taken out of the picture. How
brave to stand in the way of sanctions against a nation that slaughters
children as terrorists. What a proud legacy, but the bad guys hate them
because of their freedoms, cheech, they just don't get it. The willingly
Brian, thanks for that.
Were they petrol or diesel? Are you on biofuel? And where are you? UK or US, or
elsewhere?
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green
the BD would eventually kick in anyway, IMHO. It is just one of those events
that has to be dealth with. Not unexpected, as the info on JtF has clearly
pointed out.
It is actually a good thing, 'cause you know that the engine is getting rid
of all that accumulated residue from all that
Have you read 'The Manic Sun- Weather Theories Confounded' by Nigel calder, who
concludes that our weather is at the mercy of exploding stars in the milky way
combined with solar activity.
Following my IT instruction on the biofuel list I will cut and paste a
resume
GLOBAL WARMING
Thanks Ramon. British wet and cold weather must be considered as a factor, as
must road salt. The % of hot/cold running should also be considered. Many car
users in this country may use their car for frequent short journeys of say
5miles or less with the rresult that some cars may seldom be
air in the injectors. Why? Prior to leaving for holidays, with B100 in
thetank, I had the valves adjusted,all filters changed and other
peripherals done by the MB mechanics at a VERY reputable dealer and they
included on the work order that the lines had been successfully bled. I then
left
Don,
I'm in the Midwest of the US. I'm currently driving my first diesel, an
03 Beetle TDI which currently has about 65,000 miles. I typically buy B2,
which is the only blend available locally at this point. I am currently
in central Indiana, with a move to northern CA planned around the
exhaust and brake pads.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 02:16 PM 10/11/2004, you wrote:
124k miles on original exhaust seems exceptional to me, and I think it is
a statement of how clean exhaust emissions are from the fuel you use. My
understanding is that exhausts not so much rust from the outside
This is a link that someone posted to the old list at Yahoo some time ago. It
is an .exe freeware program that is a very handy converter from/to
metric/US/Imperial measurements and weights.
It installs in seconds to whatever folder to direct it to.
If you give me a bit, I think I can find that out. My wife works in
insurance, and that is something they would have on file.
Greg H.
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From: Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 04:58
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] fuel
On 8/oct/04 Greg H wrote to me (Still haven't read the list rules have you.)
I now reply.
I have now found time to re-read more carefully the 3 pages of rules/ useful
guidance. makes much more sense second time around. I also read the guidance on
'on top' responses, and Netiquette. I did not
I drive 50 miles to work each way. We are 15 miles from the nearest grocery
store/shopping center, 5 miles from the nearest gas station.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12,
Irish Mile = 2048 meters.
mile (mi)
a traditional unit of distance. The word comes from the Latin word for
1000, mille, because originally a mile was the distance a Roman legion
could march in 1000 paces (or 2000 steps, a pace being the distance
between successive falls of the same foot). There
The return line should get rid of air in the system for you. air will either
escape in the cylinder, or return to the tank.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:26 AM
Brian.
many thanks for this. I think maybe that you're right. I also remember
repairing exhausts frequently as a youth and much younger man. What is
particularly interesting is that with beetles and volvo's you are talking about
european cars. Are they imports or manufactured there under
Government Hydrogen programs are designed to keep oil companies happy, since
that is the source of all commercial hydrogen. Anything can look economical
if enough tax subsidies are thrown at it. Business as usual.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From:
Walt isn't being upfront about the system costs of a renewable system that
can generate 30 miles per day of hydrogen. It's more than you will pay in
fuel taxes in your lifetime. EV's, Biodiesel, ethanol, and bio-methane are
much more practical, and also tax free. You won't be able to make
If the UN makes a resolution that is not in the best interests of a
particular country, then ignoring it seems like a very good idea, IF you
have the muscle to repel boarders .
The UN made resolutions that clearly were not in Iraq's best interest, but
they failed to repel boarders. What is
Hi,
Do not forget nautical mile :D
this is defined as a one minute of the arc of earth meridian and
(according to my conversion tool) is equal to 1852 meters
accoording to my own calculations, it should be a:
4000m(earth circumference) / 360 (degrees in the circle) / 60 (minutes in a
Kim,it certainly seems very unusual to me.Also the brake pads. This
obviously depends on where you are driving. I am in southern UK where people
are very crammed together, the weather is often wet, and the roads are gritted
and salted in winter. Where are you?
Don Johnston
What would happen if the return line was plugged and fuel could not get
through ( or very little of it )?
Greg H.
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From: Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 07:38
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Running on B100
The return
Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Irish Mile = 2048 meters.
mile (mi)
a traditional unit of distance. The word comes from the Latin word for
1000, mille, because originally a mile was the distance a Roman legion
could march in 1000 paces (or 2000 steps, a pace being the distance
between
them and I explained what is what and what I wanted, so now they are having
a technician (German for mechanic, ha!) look into it.
I am not very mechanically inclined so I pay as I go, although as things
progress I am slowly coming around to the small stuff and hopefully will
acquire a bit
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/index.html
This site is constantly updated as well. I like it.
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I think meteoric activity is in there as well sice it is the doping of the
photosphere that makes a difference. Plasmas emit photons roughly proportional
to the square of the number of electrons of the atom making up the plasma. Iron
has 55 so it has much more emission than hydrogen with 1. So
I was curious to know if anyone has any first hand
experience with Methane Digesters. And if so, what
size farm operation would be a minimum for
generating a useful amount of gas? Keeping in mind
that much of my small farm manure is currently
used in composting and I wouldn't sacrifice that.
Steve, thanks. that mileage is so completely different from the UK. It appears
that most of your milefage will be achieved hot, with a dry exhaust. Whereas
for some of us here in the UK much of the mileage may be attained much below
engine operating temperature and the condensed products of
WOW! But you missed out nautical mile!
Please don't, these vary also, and this really is a scottish joke.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green Apple Awards
engine coolant will heat DHW though a heat exchanger.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Ken Riznyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The VeggieGen is running Veggie!
Are you just
Luc
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From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Running on B100
What would happen if the return line was plugged and fuel could not get
through ( or very little of it )?
Greg H.
Don,
Thank you, you are forgiven.
One thing that does not help is just adding onto successive post without
trimming them.For people with dial up and pay buy the minute, that can
really add up for someone with a slow connection speed.It also makes
searches real difficult when you have
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Italy Plans SUV Tax, Incentives to Scrap Old Cars
The Italian government is planning to introduce a new tax on big
polluting cars such as sports utility vehicles (SUVs), a move which
could benefit Turin-based Fiat but incur the wrath of other European
countries.
Environment Minister Altero
Steve, sorry not to respond earlier.
I am revealing my lack of knowledge of biofuels,and in this case WVO, and now
take your point that WVO actually cleans away such deposits, so this is one
aspect of KD420 which would have little, or no appeal to biofuelers.
I was speaking in 'general' terms
Kirk, apologies , but that was way over my head! I did however understand the
'Manic Sun', and the three Danish Scientists made no mention of meteors.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National
Ok I, having checked with the wife, and she transferred me to policy
service, they said between 10 k and 12 k miles a year. From the extremes you
talked about to hot dry conditions.
This is not for business use, but, for the basic family car.
For business use, the person in policy service
Congratulations! was that you in the picture sitting on the engine?
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green Apple Awards 2002
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It would seem after reading the thoughts below
the concerns for the environment and the effects from
fossil energy interests, whether they be business,
scientific, political or militarized intervention,
are barbaric unless economics plays a key role in the
development of alternative
ie, the efficacy of the product. From what I gather you say as reported
to you, KD420 is a relatively high molecular wt mineral oil
(hydrocarbon) with 0.1% something else added. This I get from the
combination of the gc/ms analysis and the flammability data. OK. the
first problem I have
Luc,
The problem [to me] sounds like your hand-primer pump went bad. Should be a
simple/cheap repair if this is the case.
-Michael
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:39 am
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Running on B100
It would
It has been getting cooler here and we have some nights down in the 60's
I have noticed the 6.2 Blazer getting a good bit harder to start, and I am
having to hold the glow plug relay in about a full minute. All summer it only
took about 15 to 30 seconds. This morning I had to do it twice.
It
Walt isn't being upfront about the system costs of a renewable system that
can generate 30 miles per day of hydrogen. It's more than you will pay in
fuel taxes in your lifetime.
You're probably right, but so what?
Everyone's situation is different, and therefore their options will
Agreed, my '85 Land Cruiser has over 400,000 Km ( over 248,000 miles ) with
original fuel, break, and clutch pads. All of the exhaust is original,
except for a 3 ft section that was replaced this summer, due to it rubbing
on the U bolt ( that was holding it in place ), until it broke through,
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Yeah... squealing like a junky faced with cold turkey. Too much of
Die-off Jay Hanson's influence, not nearly enough of the sort of
approach you often see from people here, eg what Hakan says about
energy waste, what Todd and others say about localisation of energy
Crimes Against Nature
George W. Bush will go down as the worst environmental president in
U.S. history, says Robert F. Kennedy.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Interviewed By Jeff Fleischer
October 7, 2004
You simply can't talk honestly about the environment today without
criticizing this
I guess Bush has to inflate the numbers, because 3,000
is a small number compared to the other atrocities
that have occurred.
Already there are about 12,000 Iraqi civilians killed
20,000 died in Bhopal, neither Union Carbide nor Dow
which bought Union Carbide has paid one penny in
reparation.
1
Hi Tim,
Over in Ireland here we use approx 200head cattle as break even point, depends
if you are selling back to grid, and have use for heat (CHP) Are you in Europe,
check CADDETT for more info of technology suppliers,
best of luck with project,
Sh*t Happens.
dD
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I was curious to know if anyone has any first hand
experience with Methane Digesters.
A project for this winter for us. I guess as of now the answer would
be yes, some.
And if so, what
size farm operation would be a minimum for
generating a useful amount of gas?
Useful for what? Fry
Sory, I'm two days behind.
Keith,
I did graduate from college with a BA in Chemistry and I did do my
senior thesis research on biodiesel. I didn't get anywhere near
what I wanted to get accomplished with my project since the school I
went to had virtually no working instruments to test
Walt,
I like to design the kitchen and cook food, because I think it is fun and I
like good tasting food. I will however recent any suggestions or thoughts
on the line that make the whole world dependent on that I cook for them. If
that would be the case, they would die of starvation. I
I guess I need a nap.For a moment there I thought Walt had said You
can get a McDonald's double-grease burger , and I was about to reply that
the grease has better uses than to be served at Mc Ds' .LOL
Greg H.
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From: Walt Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Did you ever try Hydroxides of other active metals, say lithium ?
Has anyone?
Greg H.
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 06:54
Subject: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing
G'day;
Snip
Better system yet?
cook will ensure you are getting a high quality food that you have control
over and it is something that you invest toward your future, whereas going
to the double-greasser is a cop out that you will not pay for in the
moment but will pay dearly for in the long run in heart disease and other
Greg,
As WMD, Mac Donald's of the world are probably as effective as some of the
methods we discussed against fire ants.
Hakan
At 10:02 PM 10/12/2004, you wrote:
I guess I need a nap.For a moment there I thought Walt had said You
can get a McDonald's double-grease burger , and I was
mole of reagent. Roughly a couple of bucks for a mole of sodium, 15
bucks for lithium and 40 for potassium
Greg Harbican wrote:
Did you ever try Hydroxides of other active metals, say lithium ?
Has anyone?
Greg H.
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
stumbling, air blockage, rough running, and stalling.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Running on B100
What would happen if the
It's the one coming out of the banjo bolt on top of the filter that heads
back to the fuel tank.
There are two others on top also, coming from the injectors.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Walt, If I charge an EV from my solar panels, I can go twice as far than If
I used that electric to electrolyze hydrogen, compress it, and burn it in
a fuel cell. Not to mention the costs involved with the electrolyzer, the
compressor, and the fuel cell far outweigh the cost of an EV. Now why
Yes, but hydrogen is too noisy and violent. LOL
Hakan
At 11:11 PM 10/12/2004, you wrote:
stumbling, air blockage, rough running, and stalling.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday,
My circulating tank heaters pull 1kw (there are 500 and 800 watt models). My
fuel filter pad heaters pull 68 watts.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Mel Riser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: RE:
Yes, that's me.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] The VeggieGen is running Veggie!
Congratulations! was that you in the picture
We often get filter clogs the first time bio-d is used, which is why we
install a sacrificial filter for the first few tank fills.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:26
Hakan,
You have no argument from me on that point.
I would much rather go to a little Mom Pop place that has real food, even
if it is a few $ extra.
Greg H.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 15:01
Subject:
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