We are trying to scale the batteries and inverter for maximum
efficiency. I will investigate the inverter options further if 48v
battery charging is more efficient. You mention that battery
inefficiency isn't that bad if charge/discharge is done at sane rates.
Can you elaborate on this? We
Did you hear about the guy that blew him self up using the drill and paint
stirrer? About a year ago in Santa Cruz Calif., He was not hurt badly but
set the garage on fire. Do not try that one around Methanol fumes!
Al
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Has anyone estimatd total WVO volume at any scale? In the
st1:placeU.S. or in a state. Perhaps from the front end taking
the amunt produced, how much for fryers, figure out per capita,
then you could etimate for your community?
I've tried from th other end;
feasibility study for GA not to long ago.
A .pdf of the report can be found at:
http://www.agecon.uga.edu/~caed/biodieselrpt.pdf
-Rob
At 06:33 PM 1/7/2005, you wrote:
Dave,
With a little bit of research on the Journey To
Forever website you will find most of your answers. I
am sure you
UBC Biodiesel project
http://www.eya.ca/biodiesel/
Regards,
Edward Beggs B.E.S. M.Sc.
Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
http://www.biofuels.ca
Support Engineers Without Borders. See: www.ewb.ca
On Jan 7, 2005, at 4:12 PM, R Del Bueno wrote:
University of Georgia (UGA) in Athens, GA did a
Dear Randal, In the U.S.? I've been thinking the
same think lately as I survey California cities. Some
interesting consistencies.
In 1998, the NREL folks put out an interesting study.
Here's what they have to say:
The amount of yellow grease feedstock collected from
restaurants ranged from
It is a tradable commodity primarily used by the rendering and feed industry.
The value of this waste is demonstrated by its trading value currently
around 16.5 cents per pound ..translating into over $1.20/gallon (granted
this is with a certain amount of pre-treatment).
The price will
I've heard that the NC grease gobbling public can be penciled in for
between one and three gallons of yellow grease per year--which does not
conform to Phillip's numbers. This from a grease collector.
And while Rob is right, we are not the only ones laying claim to wvo,
my guess is
Biofuel Readers: Here are first responses to my
survey of Calif. cities about biofuel gas stations and
local city zoning ordinances:
Our general plan and zoning codes would allow this
without a doubt. As for the processing options it
would depend on the
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] etanol:gasolin ratio
Niels
Using energy as the key indicator == we can say ( roughly) ethanol has
about 30%to 33% less energy than gasoline. So ethanol unit price per
volume has to be 30% to 33% less than gasoline ( grossly ) in the event
you use monetary definition.
I'm looking for a suitable liquid trap, but having some difficulty in finding
the pressure tank w/fittings that would be a candidate for the task. I would
like to see a glass or clear type liquid trap, so I can view the recovery.
However, I'm not sure such a canister exist. I saw picture of
Or you could just micro-analyze the whole business of pumps vs props to
death and never make any biodiesel at all.
This is largely incorrect -
Also the prop driven systems need a more expensive motor since it's
sitting right on top of the reactor and since there is not as large a
Neoteric Biofuels Inc wrote:
Electric heating combined with coolant heat takes care of that. See our
site.
Regards,
Edward Beggs B.E.S. M.Sc.
Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
http://www.biofuels.ca
On Jan 6, 2005, at 11:23 AM, John Guttridge wrote:
who runs liquidsolar (www.liquidsolar.com)
Erika Davis wrote:
Another newbie here...
SVO if not preheated is unlikely to burn completely and it might coke
the valves, also it is higher viscosity so it may damage the injector
pump as it has to push harder.
Is this true of all Straight Vegetable Oils? Is it a particular kind of
Kenneth Kron wrote:
I'll quote what I find most interesting. (from
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor8.html)
*
There is no mixer in the upper stage of the reactor because the
conversion of oil to ester is favoured by reducing the glycerol
content. We therefore encourage
your b-b-q grill
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From: Kevin Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:36 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Liquid Trap for Methanol Recovery
I'm looking for a suitable liquid trap, but having some difficulty in
finding the pressure tank
John, thank you for pointing me to long lost, to me, web pages. In the
local oil field both the rotary (idler) and capacitor phase converters are
used. The one I had to work with most was the capacitor type with the
capacitor banks in the same enclosure as the rest of the motor control
proving anyone right or wrong so I'm not going to respond inline. I
found your summary of particular interest and thought I'd continue on my
nonsensical analysis from there and by the way you are joining quite
learned company in clasifying my thoughts as nonsensical. I can send
you a
Thanks Peggy.
Both you, Chico and Arttu agree that the heating value of 1 litre ethanol
equals 0,67 to 0,70 litre gasolin, but there seems to be a problem to get
the reciprocal value. I agree with Arttu that 1 litre gasoline equals
1,43-1,49 litre ethanol (1/0,7 - 1/0,67).
In my opinion the
Hi Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of ken murphy
Sent: 6. januar 2005 15:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] storing vegetable oil
Thanks Niels,
How cold is cold? I live in a rather warm
environment. Would 25
snip
I also asked about biolubricants to use in 2 cycle engines and was given
the following reply:
The best lubricant for 2-cycle use is Castor oil. You can buy it at
any pharmacy and it is soluble in ethanol. Add about 2 oz per gallon.
And again, there may be more information that differs.
I suppose you are looking for a closed,sealed container in which to boil the
methanol. I am presently in the process of building one exactly the same as
you, only I am using a pressure cooker and hot plate along with the
PVC/copper tubing thing.
To capture the condensed methanol at the other
Jai Haissman wrote:
Thanks for the reply Martin!
We are trying to scale the batteries and inverter for maximum
efficiency. I will investigate the inverter options further if 48v
battery charging is more efficient. You mention that battery
inefficiency isn't that bad if charge/discharge is
Thanks Luc,
I was going to use the same water heater to reheat the glycerol. However, I
realize the congeal factor and paid close attention to filtering the WVO as
well as possible before adding my methoxide, so not to have too much
particle contamination in the byproduct.
Ian Vacuum process
How would I connect it? I need an intake and outtake lines. The intake has
to have a diptube or tube leading to the bottom and the outtake need to be
above the liquid line so not to get to my vacuum pump.
Let me know?
-KS
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From: J.L.Burney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Free until Jan 15th
The RDA book is well worth reading.
Kirk
From: Health Freedom,
International Advocates for Health Freedom
Check out this FREE BOOK- RIDICULOUS ARBITRARY ALLOWANCE by Steve Hickey which
exposes the fraudulence of RDAs http://www.lulu.com/content/92249
Check out ANH's
I cannot stress highly enough the importance of avoiding methyl alcohol vapors.
They can easily blind you if in the eyes.
Kirk
Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day Kevin;
I suppose you are looking for a closed,sealed container in which to boil the
methanol. I am presently in the
If you don't have your health you have nothing.
Kirk
Dr. Mercola's Comment:
You probably recall an article I posted regarding the overwhelming popularity
of Splenda/sucralose in processed foods that is preventing the product's
manufacturer (Tate Lyle) from taking on new customers and
Every once in a while people start to forget how they should send
replies to the mailing list. For example, if you have a one-line reply
to a message and you leave 4 replies below it, the signal to noise ratio
is very low (BAD).
Therefore,
**Please trim your replies! **
To make the
Being one of the guilty I apologize for this error in posting.
fred
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:21:47 -0500, Martin K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone,
Every once in a while people start to forget how they should send
replies to the mailing list. For example, if you have a one-line reply
I mean...
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:59:27 -0600, Fred Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being one of the guilty I apologize for this error in posting.
fred
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Fred Finch wrote:
I mean...
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:59:27 -0600, Fred Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being one of the guilty I apologize for this error in posting.
fred
No need to apologize, it was just a friendly reminder. Everyone does it
to some extent.
--
Martin K
Dear Kirk, Thanks for the info. I read the complete
text. My WWII veteran father is slight diabetic and I
will definitely research and forward to my sistes for
review for our father. Here an academic report I found
on the internet:
http://ari.calstate.edu/FundedProjects/abstract-Production.htm
Castor oil has been used as lubricant in 2 cycle engines for years in the
world of motorsports racing. The downside is it does leave harmful deposits
in the combustion chamber and piston, reducing the life of the engine.
Racing engines are constantly being re-built, so the deposits are not a
The intent and purpose here is not to pick any particular side or another,
much less join any list of people who may take issue with your opinions. The
intent is to put bare, blunt, straight forward information out there for
common use by the commmon man and woman. In that vein,
Phillip,
Before you jump on the bandwagon you might want to
read this http://www.cspinet.org/new/stevia.html
I alway like how these news releases pretend that they
are on the crux of a new discovery. Stevia has been
available in health food stores for years, and in some
full service
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From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] best processor,was: The Straight Up on Biodiesel-
Can you dig it?!
Did you hear about the guy that blew him self up using the drill and paint
Stevia, even if 100% natural, has also had some negative reports come out
about it, however I am not in a position to call that one. As for the
artificial sweeteners, there are not sufficient words that adequately
describe how important it is to stay away from that poison.
Before suggesting that others follow you into the lovely carcinogenic world
of methanol producing artificial sweeteners. Methanol in the system is
cumulative by the way and is one of the by-products in aspartame and
splenda.
If you live in the US look at the very small print on the very
Dear Eagle,
I was not advocating the use of the little pink
packets that contain saccahrin which indeed is a
carcinogenic. Splenda comes in yellow packets. As far
a reading about food products on the internet I'll
trust the Center for Science in the Public Interest,
before I'll listen to someone
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