Re: [Biofuel] rapeseedoil + NaOH + methanol = ?

2005-01-17 Thread Gregory Petit
Op zondag 16 januari 2005 18:16, schreef Legal Eagle: There are other variables involved, such as heat. Did you follow the step by step method of processing test batches ? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start The processing temp should be 55C. Ok, that will be the problem;

Re: [Biofuel] Oil politics trumps everything.

2005-01-17 Thread Ken Provost
on 1/16/05 1:56 PM, bmolloy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can all relax. The army is going to look after our fuel supply sources. Yeah, it would be bad news, that article -- but it's all bull. The infrastructure they would depend on for that to happen will all be GONE before they get so

[Biofuel] Register Now for the Grassroots Biodiesel Conference!

2005-01-17 Thread Rachel Burton
Register now for the Grassroots Biodiesel Conference at Central Carolina Community College Pittsboro, North Carolina ! Coming soon on January 28-29, 2005 Space is limited! Conference Registration will be held to the first hundred applicants! To register online please see

Reply: [Biofuel] As it Relates to Biofuels Monsanto Assault on U.S. Farmers Detailed in New Report

2005-01-17 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Kieth, I read and re-read all 84 pages of this paper. My corn growing buddy from Minnesota warned me and my Californian farming buddies about this five years ago. I read that GMO'd plants (supplied by Monsanto) are in 85% of all U.S. soy acreage, 45% of all US corn acreage, 76% of all U.S

Re: [Biofuel] Oil politics trumps everything.

2005-01-17 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Dear Keith and Readers I meant to only send the first paragraph with the weblink below. Please disregard my other email even though it may be too late. I am still learning... --- Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bruce, Very interesting point the author Gagnon regarding Thomas

[Biofuel] Appleseed Processor

2005-01-17 Thread Dana Knight
Hello Good People; With regard to Girl Marks Appleseed Processor; is there any reason why the plumbing could not be done with PVC (the more chem/heat resistant variety) pipe? Cheers, Dana Knight Boulder, CO KOR technologies Dana Knight 110 Seminole Dr Boulder, CO 80303 720

[Biofuel] Concentrating Thermal Radiation as a Renewable Energy Source

2005-01-17 Thread Ken Gotberg
Hi All Here’s my free energy device. This started out as a low cost non-tracing solar concentrator (http://www.geocities.com/kgotberg/csl.htm) and evolved into a concentrating thermal radiation device. I wonder if anyone sees any fatal flaws. The idea is to use cold lenses and light guides

[Biofuel] PreFiltering BioDiesel

2005-01-17 Thread Trevor Churney
I was wondering if i could prefilter biodiesel instead of washing it. Hae an inline fuel filter before it gets to my tank. Thanks Trevor -- ___ Sign-up fr Ads Free at Mail.com [1]http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup

Re: [Biofuel] Oil politics trumps everything.

2005-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks for this, Bob. We've had tussles about young master Barnett here before - at least some list members seem to see him and his mentors as the fount of all wisdom. That he ain't. Some of it was in response to your posting a William Rivers Pitt article in September, When the Rabbits Get

Re: Reply: [Biofuel] As it Relates to Biofuels Monsanto Assault on U.S. Farmers Detailed in New Report

2005-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Kieth, I read and re-read all 84 pages of this paper. My corn growing buddy from Minnesota warned me and my Californian farming buddies about this five years ago. I read that GMO'd plants (supplied by Monsanto) are in 85% of all U.S. soy acreage, 45% of all US corn acreage, 76% of all U.S

Re: [Biofuel] PreFiltering BioDiesel

2005-01-17 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Filtering removes particles while washing at the end is intended to remove soaps and any glycerin and catalyst that is left in the BioD (and excess methanol if not recovered). Andy On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:36:20 -0500, Trevor Churney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if i could

[Biofuel] first few cloudy batches

2005-01-17 Thread Matthew Biss
Hello All I have just made my first few batches of biodiesel, with a moderate degree of success(i flatter myself). Both 1 litre batches were from virgin veg oil and I followed the instructions on the JtF site. Both batches seperated nicely into 2 distinct layers but the biodisel is cloudy. After

Re: [Biofuel] Appleseed Processor

2005-01-17 Thread Legal Eagle
I am not too sure about al the plumbing, however I use a water heater as a reactor and most of all the fittings are black iron, except for the valves where a few are PVC. What I have noticed is that at times they get very stiff (dry ?)to open/close and then go back to normal. I am suspecting

Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-01-17 Thread Brian
as it once was. There is still some amount of activity on the west side of town, but not sure if it's Burlington Northern. Brian - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] (no

Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-01-17 Thread desertstallion
Hi Wasn't the big magnesium fire in the same Anderson where you live? Derek -- Original message -- From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] They might. Most of the industry here is gone, so it is probably not as big as it once was. There is still some amount of

Re: [Biofuel] processor

2005-01-17 Thread Andrew Cunningham
If you are very safe and have no leaks it would work, but it would be dangerous if you don't take everything into consideration. It might be safer to use a taco circulator to heat the oil with hot water from the water heater. I would just be afraid if a safety valve blew open venting flammable

[Biofuel] Storage of Sodium Methoxide

2005-01-17 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Hi, I have read in many places that sodium methoxide breaks down so it shouldn't be stored. Therefore you should mix it just before you are about to use it. Am I correct in assuming that the deacivation is due to the solution picking up water or is there some other process going on that I

[Biofuel] processor

2005-01-17 Thread Jerry T Van Horn
Newbie question: Please comment on the use of an oil fired water heater as a biodiesel processor. Thanks Jerry, Wi ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] PreFiltering BioDiesel

2005-01-17 Thread Trevor Churney
So you are saying that I can just hook up an inline filter rather than bubbe washing biod. - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunnngham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Bofuel] PreFiltering BioDiesel Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:02:16 -0500 Filtering removes

Re: [Biofuel] first few cloudy batches

2005-01-17 Thread J.L.Burney
soda bottle and just bubble wash for about 4 hours then change the water then let it bubble over night - Original Message - From: Matthew Biss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:20 AM Subject: [Biofuel] first few cloudy batches Hello All I

Re: [Biofuel] Storage of Sodium Methoxide

2005-01-17 Thread Legal Eagle
I asked about the same question a whle back and what I got as ananswer was that once the methoxide is mixed that it can be kept for up to about two weeks in a cool dark place and sealed. There is also a formula on the JtF site on how to do a concentrate and then simply add some methanol once

Re: Reply: [Biofuel] As it Relates to Biofuels Monsanto Assault on U.S. Farmers Detailed in New Report

2005-01-17 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Keith, Thanks, I will read ALL your weblinks. The question I now ask myself: Is it possible to purchase soy that is NOT a bioengineered soy? Why? I want a real soy bean that has not been GMO'd with 35s promotor. The 35s promotor is really a derivative of the Mosaic Virus..which is hell on

Re: [Biofuel] PreFiltering BioDiesel

2005-01-17 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: Trevor Churney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] PreFiltering BioDiesel snip So you are saying that I can just hook up an inline filter rather than bubb=e washing biod./snip Nope. You

Re: [Biofuel] processor

2005-01-17 Thread Legal Eagle
You don't want open flame anywhere near a potential methanol leak. Go boom. However, that said, you could pre-heat the oil away from the potential danger and then once it is heated to processing temps (55C) transfer it to the reactor via pump keeping in mind that you will loose a couple of

Re: [Biofuel] first few cloudy batches

2005-01-17 Thread Legal Eagle
Bubble overnight for a 1 liter batch ? Why not just stick it in the 2 liter bottle, shake it up real well and leave it at that ? Repeat three times and it is done. Personally I do 500ml batches for testers. Just cut the catalyst and methanol in half. I use a Grolsch beer bottle, the one with

[Biofuel] solid wvo

2005-01-17 Thread anibal
hellooo i want to procees solid wvo at room temperature anybody has done that? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 4:00 AM Subject: Biofuel Digest, Vol 5, Issue 42 Send Biofuel mailing list submissions to [EMAIL

Re: Reply: [Biofuel] As it Relates to Biofuels Monsanto Assault onU.S. Farmers Detailed in New Report

2005-01-17 Thread Appal Energy
would also be available. Shouldn't be too hard to find a source. Whether or not that source is within your region may be another matter. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:48 PM

Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-01-17 Thread Brian
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Hi Wasn't the big magnesium fire in the same Anderson where you live? Derek Yes, it was. It was quite a site from a distance. Of course, we didn't venture any closer.

Re: [Biofuel] Mixing Ala deep thort was Re: pump mixing, was: ...

2005-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Kenneth Kron wrote: I'll quote what I find most interesting. (from http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor8.html) * There is no mixer in the upper stage of the reactor because the conversion of oil to ester is favoured by reducing the glycerol content. We therefore encourage the

Re: Reply: [Biofuel] As it Relates to Biofuels Monsanto Assault on U.S. Farmers Detailed in New Report

2005-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Keith, Thanks, I will read ALL your weblinks. The question I now ask myself: Is it possible to purchase soy that is NOT a bioengineered soy? I don't think the soy genetic base is that badly eroded. Yet. Brazilian soy is non-GMO, so is Japanese soy (plenty of it around here), probably most

Re: [Biofuel] solid wvo

2005-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
hellooo i want to procees solid wvo at room temperature anybody has done that? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 4:00 AM Subject: Biofuel Digest, Vol 5, Issue 42 snip Please don't include the entire digest, especially

[Biofuel] Harmonic resonant cancer cure

2005-01-17 Thread balaji
Hello All, Another panacea or conspiracy theory ? http://www.rense.com/health/rife.htm - Link to the article below on Jeff Rense's website. Royal Raymond Rife Jeff Rense Imagine, for a moment, that you have spent more than two decades in painfully laborious research--that you have

[Biofuel] Supercritical

2005-01-17 Thread balaji
Hello all, A new method for the preparation of fatty acid esters broadcast on yet2.com http://www.yet2.com/app/utility/special?c=4144l=106u=133986 Method and apparatus for preparing fatty acid esters A fatty acid ester can be obtained in a high yield by a method comprising reacting fats and

[Biofuel] test message - multiples

2005-01-17 Thread Martin K
to myself (NOT the list) thank you. -- Martin K http://wwia.org/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel