Re: [Biofuel] Aleks Kac's 2 Stage Method

2005-04-11 Thread Kenneth Kron (CEO)
Gregg, Are you sure there was no water in the WO before beginning? Sounds like you have a ton of soap if you are not getting *any* separation. At a minimum the alcohol layer should separate back out. Remember when you mix the methanol with the oil you are basically creating an

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-11 Thread Bill Fenech
The US involvement in the fighting in Europe was not pivotal to the outcome. There's no question that the Soviets did the lion's share of fighting and defeating the German Army. However, leaving aside lend-lease shipments, there's one area in which the involvement of the Western Allies (the US

Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
subject. Dispensationalists are also easily identified by negatives - what you don't see them doing is talking a lot about such basic Christian tenets as God is Love for instance, or the Sermon on the Mount, let alone practising such things, quite the opposite. This view is neither

[Biofuel] English - was Re: Dutch speaking biofuel group(?)

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hans, I to, live in belgium and could easier speak write dutch or flemish than english; but this here is somewhat an international list, with mostly english ( american ) ( speaking) people, who can not understand a word from what you were saying here. Well, I did, I'm sure I'm not the only

Re: [Biofuel] Evolution - was Re: The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
You said: Evolution is not science, it's a worldview that fits a set of religious beliefs and as such is really only a religious precursor. Certainly not science. I think you're the one who's religious about it. You say a lot of things that you expect us to accept sight-unseen, but there

Re: [Biofuel] The need for Gmail invitation

2005-04-11 Thread Kenneth Kron (CEO)
Thought I'd present the other side of this discussion by a noted privacy advocate and open source proponent (basically our kind of people I think). [1]http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4707 (The Fuss About Gmail and Privacy: Nine Reasons Why It's Bogus) Keith Addison wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] soap, glycerine by-product and how my farm is

2005-04-11 Thread Rob
Actually my land is real flat, so underground will not work. I have looked into solar dehydrators, but with my normal humidity of 80%, it is hard to dry anything. We run the hot water through the towel rack while having our showers in order to heat and dry the towels. They naturally soak

[Biofuel] Aleks Kac's 2 Stage Method

2005-04-11 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hello Everyone, I started on a new batch of biodiesel this past Friday. I'm using Aleks Kac's 2 Stage Method had a lot of success last year with it. Now it seems that I've hit the proverbial brick wall. I've cafefully calculated the volume, 25 litres of WVO, warmed the WVO to 35* C, added 2

Re: [Biofuel] Multiple Uses of Forests

2005-04-11 Thread Hal Galerneau
suitable tree varieties that would provide income for my children in 20 or 30 years. In the states we have people working as County Agents in the various counties where information can be obtained for agriculture type questions. I haven't been able to find that type person or office in Canada as

Re: Dutch speaking biofuel group(?) was Re: [Biofuel] Sunflower Oil

2005-04-11 Thread sam critchley
Hi, Good with me. I live in the Netherlands and have been trying to find a biodiesel supplier in Amsterdam for ages. There's no one, so now I'm going on a course to learn how to make it myself. You can also try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel-europe/ - About time this list got some

Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-11 Thread robert luis rabello
(The shifting sands of truth) There are some web pages that have tried to keep count, but it's a tough job. Funny how people don't notice, isn't it? I suppose Lakoff's explanation holds good (though he's not in very good odour right now, and he wasn't at all the first to observe this: One

Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-11 Thread Hakan Falk
Todd, When I was there, I got the impression that it is a lot of sugar cane, in some islands close to mono culture already. Maybe palm oil for biodiesel could be a diversification, compared to sugar cane for Ethanol. LOL My impression is that the Islands of Hawaiians could rapidly be quite

Re: [Biofuel] Evolution - was Re: The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-11 Thread Tim Brodie
Keith Addison wrote: You said: Evolution is not science, it's a worldview that fits a set of religious beliefs and as such is really only a religious precursor. Certainly not science. I think you're the one who's religious about it. You say a lot of things that you expect us to accept

Re: [Biofuel] Multiple Uses of Forests

2005-04-11 Thread Charles A. Leveque, III
Dear Hal, You might want to consider planting male hybrid poplar trees. They are usuallly planted rather densly for the pulp industry, they are rather low maintainence and have a harvest cycle of about 15 years as they grow upwards to 10 feet a year, though 7 feet is more probable. Contact

[Biofuel] Try This At Home (1)

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
#812 -- Try This at Home, Part 1, March 03, 2005 Try This At Home By Jane Anne Morris* The Ambassador It was Colombian Independence Day, so I suppose I should have expected to bump into the U.S. ambassador in the mummy room of the National Museum in Bogota. What better way for the

Re: [Biofuel] Multiple Uses of Forests

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
That's not forestry, and not multiple use either, it's an industrialised monocrop. Here's the original post: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050307/006677.html [Biofuel] Multiple Uses of Forests Best wishes Keith Dear Hal, You might want to consider planting male

Re: [Biofuel] Evolution - was Re: The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello again: Keith Addison wrote: You said: Evolution is not science, it's a worldview that fits a set of religious beliefs and as such is really only a religious precursor. Certainly not science. I think you're the one who's religious about it. You say a lot of things that you expect

[Biofuel] Fwd: The Overstory #153--Online species references

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
by Permanent Agriculture Resources :: The Overstory Book, 2nd Edition, a formatted, indexed and illustrated compilation of The Overstory ejournal editions 1 - 138 is in stock. Your purchase helps support publication of The Overstory:

Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-11 Thread Chuck Elsholz
Hi. I was just wondering where the over-unity power is coming from. Also, has anyone referenced Dr. Bruce DePalma or the Space Power Generator, or the work of Dr. Searl and his devices? Happy to see great interest in a better and smarter world. Thanks, Chuck

Re: [Biofuel] soap, glycerine by-product and how my farm is

2005-04-11 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Rob wrote: Would you like plans for a VERY cheap dehumidifier (probably less than $20) that can take out over a gallon of water a day (depending on humidity) ?? I would very much like the plans. How much energy does it use? We do have an electric humidifyer, but it sucks powers like an

RE: [Biofuel] soap, glycerine by-product and how my farm is

2005-04-11 Thread Steve Hess
Rob I have a very damp basement and would be interested in your plans for the dehumidifier. Steve Hess -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Garth Travis Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

[Biofuel] White stuff

2005-04-11 Thread Brent S
diesel and the wash water. Am I needing more or less lie ro methanol? Brent ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-11 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Chuck, That's a question we're all asking. I wish the phrase over-unity was never coined because it negates the more important (and only reasonable) question being asked about the device. Where is the energy coming from? Mike Chuck Elsholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I was just

RE: [Biofuel] Aleks Kac's 2 Stage Method

2005-04-11 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, As near as I can tell the first stage is going to produce water. It is an acid esterifacation, right? You need to somehow get rid of that water let alone any that may have been in the starting reactants. Tom Irwin -Original Message- From: Kenneth Kron (CEO) To: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] White stuff

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
the diesel and the wash water. Am I needing more or less lie ro methanol? Brent What sort of oil did you use? Try this before washing it: Quality testing http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality Probably it's back to the drawing board - see: Test batches

RE: [Biofuel] Aleks Kac's 2 Stage Method

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
As near as I can tell the first stage is going to produce water. It is an acid esterifacation, right? You need to somehow get rid of that water let alone any that may have been in the starting reactants. So some people say, but in fact the acid-base process does take that into account and

Re: [Biofuel] Speaking of glop

2005-04-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hi All, After many successful batches made from vegetable oil ( both unused and heavily used) I decided it was time to try all beef lard. Perhaps I shouldn«t have used this method but I did anyway. I used Alex Kacs first stage (of two) method. After liquifying the lard, I added the required 1

RE: [Biofuel] Liquid Coal

2005-04-11 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, Liquifying coal is not environmentally friendly in my opinion. It's processing uses large quantities of cancer causing solvents and it leaves a residue that is both difficult to degrade and loaded with cancer causing substances. You are still using a fossil fuel. Tom Irwin

Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-11 Thread stephan torak
Past and present land use practices in Hawaii are quite foremost on my mind because I live here and land use determines, more than anything else, the way these islands look and feel. So, yes, it's a mess!!! 100% native environment is gone, because even that which looks untouched by man is

Re: Dutch speaking biofuel group(?) was Re: [Biofuel] Sunflower Oil

2005-04-11 Thread Hakan Falk
Bruno, You surprise me and I cannot see very much need for Flemish speaking group. The Dutch people is in the top ten in general multilingual speaking countries. I can see that the English (including US), German and French are more dependent of their native language, but the Dutch? Hakan At

Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-11 Thread bob allen
I'm always interested that people use the *Theory* of Evolution as an example of Science. At best you could call it an hypothesis, since to be science a theory must be observable and repeatable. things like phyolgenetic relationships, as indicated via the similarity of the dna of the

[Biofuel] City ordinances

2005-04-11 Thread BTO
I am just starting to make a biodiesel duel process unit in my garage. I live in the city dose anyone know what city ordinances might be a problem mixing this stuff? just wondering. thanks ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Biofuel] biocarburants en France

2005-04-11 Thread F. Desprez
Les candidats pour la construction de nouvelles units de production de biocarburants seront fixs en mai 18/03/2005 Actu-Environnement C.S. http://www.actu-environnement.com/ae/news/1003.php4 Le plan biocarburants, annonc en septembre dernier par le Premier ministre, vise tripler la

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-11 Thread Hakan Falk
Bill, The material support from US (lend lease), was absolutely pivotal to defeat Germany and thereby also the US industrial workers. This is something that I acknowledge and also said earlier in the discussion. The fighter air war, was won by both the British technology and pilots. The terror

RE: [Biofuel] Aleks Kac's 2 Stage Method

2005-04-11 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hi Kenneth, Earlier today I wondered if the may have been water in the WO I used it turns out that there was. So DUH on me. Normally, I heat the oil up to remove any water, but I suppose I forgot. I'm not excusing myself, just owning up to my shortcomings. I collected a sample of the