[Biofuel] Ex-oil lobbyist watered down US climate research

2005-06-09 Thread r
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g8/story/0,13365,1502487,00.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

[Biofuel] Support from city folk takes root on the farm

2005-06-09 Thread Leo Prakash
Perhaps of interest to some in this group. Cheers Leo Support from city folk takes root on the farm By Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-05-11-farm-share_x.htm A new way of farming is quietly sowing seeds of change. It has brought new life to family farms in

[Biofuel] Smart Car - DaimlerChrysler sees growth above average

2005-06-09 Thread MH
DaimlerChrysler sees Smart's growth above average Tue Jun 7, 2005 http://today.reuters.co.uk STUTTGART, Germany (Reuters) - DaimlerChrysler expects above-average growth rates for minicars and microcars this decade, which is why it is hanging on to its loss-making Smart business, the head

[Biofuel] 70 MPG DaimlerChrysler Diesel concept

2005-06-09 Thread MH
DaimlerChrysler Showcases 70 MPG 'Bionic' Diesel Concept June 07, 2005 http://www.greencarcongress.com DaimlerChrysler has unveiled a new 'bionic' concept car that achieves outstanding results for fuel consumption and emissions with a combination of diesel engine technology, innovative

[Biofuel] 125 MPG Plug-In Hybrid prototype

2005-06-09 Thread MH
Tour of the Sun by Plug-In Hybrid By Michael Bianchi Mike Biachi reports on 125 mpg plug-in hybrid prototype June 05, 2005 http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=articlestoryid=859 There are some of us who never understood the `complaint' that you had to plug a battery-electric car

[Biofuel] New carbohydrate fuel process

2005-06-09 Thread MH
Green Diesel: New process makes liquid transportation fuel from plants 06/02/05 http://www.engr.wisc.edu/news/headlines/2005/Jun02.html --- Making Fuels from Biomass Jens R. Rostrup-Nielsen Science, Vol 308, Issue 5727, 1421-1422 , 3 June 2005 http://www.sciencemag.org In an

Re: [Biofuel] Smart Car - DaimlerChrysler sees growth above average

2005-06-09 Thread Tony Marzolino
Does anybody on this list know why DaimlerChrysler does not want to sell this car in the US? I have seen some positive comments from this list about this car. Thanks Tony MarzolinoMH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DaimlerChrysler sees Smart's growth above averageTue Jun 7, 2005

RE: [Biofuel] Smart Car - DaimlerChrysler sees growth above average

2005-06-09 Thread Bede
try http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tony MarzolinoSent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:44 PMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Smart Car - DaimlerChrysler sees growth

[Biofuel] Biodiesel tank specs.

2005-06-09 Thread Chuck Elsholz
Hello, Are the specifications on fuel containers the same for diesel and biodiesel? We are having a 500 gal. tank built outside of our business to fuel our fleet. Any suggestions? Thanks Chuck ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Smart Car - DaimlerChrysler sees growth above average

2005-06-09 Thread Michael Redler
Tony, I've been asking that question for a long time. My first sighting of a Smart was in Switzerland, about five or six years ago. I walked up to it and just stared. I don't think first questions I asked myself were unusual: Is parallel parkingnecessary anymore (It looks almost as wide as it

Re: [Biofuel] General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread Tim Brodie
Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: [snip] No one owns the truth. Not the Christians, or the Muslims, or the Jews, or the Hindus, or the Buddhists, or any religious group, or the philosophers, or the economists, or the politicians. No one. Each have bits and pieces and snatches of the

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel tank specs.

2005-06-09 Thread Greg Harbican
Use a couple of 275 gal IBC tote tanks.As seen here ( near the bottom of the page ): http://www.longnow.org/rhino/BioDiesel.htm They are cheep, and you can station them at different places to fuel 2 vehicles at the same time. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Chuck Elsholz [EMAIL

RE: [Biofuel] Biodiesel tank specs.

2005-06-09 Thread Gene Rotter
Tanks approved for petroleum fuel storage are fine for Biodiesel. Same for pumps, piping and related hardware. Gene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Elsholz Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:47 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject:

RE: [Biofuel] Smart Car - DaimlerChrysler sees growth above average

2005-06-09 Thread Gene Rotter
DaimlerChrysler does want to sell the smart car in the US, just not thru Zap. Zap is a local company for me (northern California) that manufactures mainly electric scooters and has been in and out of bankruptcy as long as I can remember. President of the Smart division of

RE: [Biofuel] Biodiesel tank specs.

2005-06-09 Thread Gene Rotter
Greg, In the US... Above ground fuel storage tanks have specific requirements to meet depending on the local jurisdiction mandates. Filling a vehicle from an above ground tank, at least in most of the US, requires this gas or diesel tank to be UL2085 listed (be fire rated and impact resistant).

Re: [Biofuel] General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread Michael Redler
I've observed twogeneral reasons why people contribute to this forum -- to share information and to gain consensus. I have yet to meet someone in this group who claims ownership of an ideology. How people define "Justice" comes from a consensus on what is considered "fair". Depending on where

[Biofuel] When corporations rule the world

2005-06-09 Thread Keith Addison
The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 24/05/05 Announcing Science in Society #26, Summer 2005 The only radical science magazine on earth From the Editor When corporations rule the world The Black Hills of South Dakota

Re: [Biofuel] Justice? was:General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Tim, In some ways you are right, the Bully with the biggest guns will always reign and he refused to subscribe to the Global Court of Justice. This to escape responsibility to any global standard of justice. Despite this the Bully with the biggest guns are active to set up his own global

Re: [Biofuel] Justice? was:General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread Michael Redler
"...the 'Bully with the biggest guns' will always reign" Do you really mean that? I'm hoping that I just misunderstood you. MikeHakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim,In some ways you are right, the "Bully with the biggest guns" will always reign and he refused to subscribe to the Global Court

Re: [Biofuel] Justice? was:General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, While I agree, that no one person own the truth, we all own the truth.. As long as we get hung up on labels and differences, we get nowhere. To quote the Dali Lama: We are all human. None of us seek misery. So far we are all the same. Question: If you could choose, would you

Re: [Biofuel] True Truth? was General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread Tim Brodie
Michael Redler wrote: I've observed two general reasons why people contribute to this forum -- to share information and to gain consensus. I have yet to meet someone in this group who claims ownership of an ideology. We all own our own ideologies in the sense that we operate as if they are

[Biofuel] A New Way To Inherit Environmental Harm

2005-06-09 Thread Keith Addison
RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT HEALTH NEWS #819 http://www.rachel.org June 9, 2005 ^ ^ A New Way To Inherit Environmental Harm by Tim Montague* New research shows that the environment is more important to health

Re: [Biofuel] True Truth? was General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread Michael Redler
Tim, We can discuss the metaphysics of truth all day long. In fact, the deepest philosophical definitions of truth is so broad and has as such a range of opinions among philosophers and theologians, that I suggest you start another Yahoo! Group to entertain the discussion. As far as I'm

[Biofuel] Dream Farms

2005-06-09 Thread Keith Addison
Quite so. Though there are many ways of doing it. - Keith - The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 09/06/05 Dream Farms Abundantly productive farms with zero input and zero emission powered by waste-gobbling bugs

Re: [Biofuel] Justice? was:General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Please, give me a sample of the opposite. It is not particularly optimistic and maybe I might be proved wrong in the future, I really hope that. We are discussing Global responsibility, it is important to notice. I do not apply this on national and local levels, since there we have many

Re: [Biofuel] General Motors Layoffs

2005-06-09 Thread AntiFossil
Hello Gustl, I can certainly feel the frustration coming through your words old friend. The real issues are at least becoming clearer, and we all know we can't fix what we can't see. To my way of thinking, truth is what you step in when you're chasing justice. I guess I've exposed the fact that

[Biofuel] RE: General Motors Layoffs(.....and everything else)

2005-06-09 Thread Marc DeGagne
Hello Keith In regards to the hot coffee myth, I should have thoroughly researched before citing it as an example. Having read the provided link, I see that responsibility was placed where it belonged. I did not intend to convey the notion that corporations are human. I do understand the

Re: [Biofuel] RE: General Motors Layoffs(.....and everything else)

2005-06-09 Thread Michael Redler
I have to chime in on this one. Good point Marc. This is a simple, but important fact (IMO) and itneeds tobe repeated over and over again. Corporations are a kind of animal, bred for one purpose. It's for that reason that I think many of us are alarmed by privatization.The fact that Corporations

Re: [Biofuel] Smart Car - DaimlerChrysler sees growth above average

2005-06-09 Thread robert luis rabello
Michael Redler wrote: HOW CAN I GET ONE THROUGH CUSTOMS? Buy one in Canada. They're all over the place up here now. My boys make a game of spotting them, like I used to do with oval window VWs when I was a kid. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind

Re: [Biofuel] Smart Car - DaimlerChrysler sees growth above average

2005-06-09 Thread Doug Younker
Buying one in Canada is one thing, but getting it registered in the State you plan to live may be whole new game. Doug, N0LKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justice and Liberty for all* * Restrictions apply: see the PATRIOT act for details. - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL

[Biofuel] RE: General Motors Layoffs(.....and everything else)

2005-06-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Marc Hello Keith In regards to the hot coffee myth, I should have thoroughly researched before citing it as an example. Having read the provided link, I see that responsibility was placed where it belonged. I did not intend to convey the notion that corporations are human. I do