Re: [Biofuel] wind and current power

2005-09-15 Thread Taryn
Hi Zeke,On 9/14/05, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That monitoring station suggested to me that such a flying platform could... On a philosophical level, I often wonder why people are so excitedabout fancy new ideas like fusion, or flying wind turbines, etc.Isit that we hope to engineer a

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Manufacture using KOH

2005-09-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Ken, Sean Sean Brady writes: I am using KOH as catalyst, and most of the literature I have read is based on using NaOH as catalyst. I believe that 3,5g NaOH per litre oil is the minimum amount of catalyst needed for unused oil and increases as your feedstock oil is more used

Re: [Biofuel] Draft US Defense Paper Outlines Preventive Nuclear Strikes

2005-09-15 Thread Joe Street
Yeah no doubt Pat Robertson could think of ways to kill two birds with one stone.. Joe David Miller wrote: Tom Irwin wrote: Someone ought to tell them that nuclear winter doesn't negate global warming. Are you sure about that? Maybe they'd balance each other out.

[Biofuel] Wash speed

2005-09-15 Thread fil_paulette
Hello everyone I'm asking for solutions in decreasing the time required for the wash stage in biodiesel manufacturing. In the present I use bubble wash and a quantity of water of 0,3 liters per liter of biodiesel. Is this correct? Normaly in three washes the product is ready for the next

Re: [Biofuel] Wash speed

2005-09-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello everyone I'm asking for solutions in decreasing the time required for the wash stage in biodiesel manufacturing. In the present I use bubble wash and a quantity of water of 0,3 liters per liter of biodiesel. Is this correct? Normaly in three washes the product is ready for the next step,

[Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC

2005-09-15 Thread Bobby Clark
Hello, Is there anyone out there that makes biodiesel in upstate SC or northeast Georgia? I am just starting to become interested in making biodiesel and I would really like to see the process first hand if possible. If there is no one, then wish me luck in becoming one of the firsts in my

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC

2005-09-15 Thread lendzian_michael
Hi Bobby, I'd be glad to help you. I'm very near Columbus, GA. Your choice. I have lots of room for you to camp at my place. Michael Lendzian CINS Network Support Team Columbus State University CINS/Center for Commerce Technology Room 105 706.569.3044 (help desk) - Original Message

[Biofuel] Crack computer input with tape of typing

2005-09-15 Thread Kirk McLoren
Average person has no idea of how they have no security. --Kirk http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Keyboard_Acoustic_Emanations_Revisited/preprint.pdf Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ___ Biofuel

[Biofuel] It's come to this?

2005-09-15 Thread Mike Weaver
http://slashdot.org/articles/05/09/14/2355223.shtml?tid=133tid=126 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] It's come to this?

2005-09-15 Thread Brian Rodgers
Yep, a Friend sent me this story as well. I asked, Is this another magic box similar to changing world technology's? http://www.globalfinest.com/tech/ Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] Question about E85

2005-09-15 Thread Angela Cook
Does anyone know if anything has to be done to the fuel system if you're planning on running E-85 in your vehicle? I have heard conflicting stories. I have a 2001 Chevy Impala that I would fill up with E85. I've been using 10% Ethanol with no problems. Any information would be greatly

Re: [Biofuel] It's come to this?

2005-09-15 Thread Drew
Hmmm... maybe we can start using roadkill instead of cats? That is, unless you are from WV and decide to eat yours instead... Drew On 9/15/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://slashdot.org/articles/05/09/14/2355223.shtml?tid=133tid=126

[Biofuel] BD anti gel

2005-09-15 Thread JEFF IHDE
As it is mid September in Wisconsin our temperature this morning was 45F/ 7C. I have been using BD for the past several months with good results. I would like to continue using BD into the colder months. After looking at the antigel products listed at JTF the Wintron product seems to be cost

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC

2005-09-15 Thread Jerry Eyers
Lot's of us lurking, but haven't tried it yet... :-) I know of at least five here in Greenville, SC. Jerry ---Original Message--- From: Bobby Clark Date: 09/15/05 10:29:58 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC Hello, Is there anyone out there that

Re: [Biofuel] Wash speed

2005-09-15 Thread Kevin Shea
I'm Famous! Yes this way has worked for me. I can only stress to be sure to have your completed wash batch free of water in the end. Mainly due to damage to your injector-pump and engine components (over time). It is the fuel that lubricates the injector pump and poor lubrication could lead to a

Re: [Biofuel] Question about E85

2005-09-15 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Angela, the fuel system of your car will most likely not tolerate more than 30% E85 in gasoline. The "black box" has to be adjusted to increase the highest possible fuel amount to be injected. I think that the easiest way is to get a car with a carburettor, and enlarge the main injector to a

Re: [Biofuel] Crack computer input with tape of typing

2005-09-15 Thread Taryn
On 9/15/05, Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Average person has no idea of how they have no security. --Kirk http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Keyboard_Acoustic_Emanations_Revisited/preprint.pdf The link leads to a PDF full-text file of a research paper: Keyboard Acoustic

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread dwoodard
One major way acceleration hurts is that engines are set to richen the mixture during hard acceleration in order to prevent detonation (knocking, pinging) at high cylinder pressures. Also, carburated engines richen the mixture to compensate for fuel vapour condensing on the intake manifold walls

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread dwoodard
Charles Lindberg did some of this training for P-38 pilots in the Pacific. For gasoline engines, high BMEP is good as long as you stay below the range where you have to richen the mixture to avoid detonation. Operation at lean mixtures is good as long as combustion is fast enough so that you can

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Zeke Yewdall
One major way acceleration hurts is that engines are set to richen the mixture during hard acceleration in order to prevent detonation (knocking, pinging) at high cylinder pressures. Does this apply to diesel engines which almost always operate with excess oxygen?

[Biofuel] changing trash into fuel

2005-09-15 Thread marilyn
The plasma torch system of changing trash into fuel appears to be catching on in Japan. This article says it can produce three to four times as much energy in carbon-rich gas, and 50% more energy than it uses in the form of hydrogen gas. Does anyone know more about it?

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel

2005-09-15 Thread Ed Hall
Greetings greasy-ones, Some clarification please, I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly. 10 micron is .000394 inch, that's pretty darn small. Even 20 micron at .00079 inch is vey small. For perspective (for me anyway), the thickness of paper is around .004 inch (100 micron) and human

Re: [Biofuel] changing trash into fuel

2005-09-15 Thread Zeke Yewdall
http://www.nrel.gov/csp/lab_capabilities.html#hfsf I had read a few years ago about NREL using their solar furnace to turn waste into plasma. At the time they were just trying new ideas to get rid of toxic waste, but solar is a possible fuel source for a plasma reduction unit that doesn't use

[Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-15 Thread Kuba-tlen
Does anybody know how to do a biofuel usin ethanol? I mean 92% ethanol, not dry ethanol. I've read that it is possible. O maybe somebody knows how to easily dry ethanol? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

2005-09-15 Thread John Donahue
I thought this was amusing and interesting, about a new technology to make fuel from common waste materials. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/cats_fuel_diesel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] wind and current power

2005-09-15 Thread Leon Hulett
Zeke Yewdall, Your point is well taken. I like to think the humanities are more important than technology. That people are more important than things. You ask, "Is it that we hope to engineer a technological solution to ourenvironmental/social problems?" I say, yes. I think some wind

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Greg and April
Ok, given the same vehicle ( and about the same weight ), how does one go about picking a replacement engine and perhapsthe replacing thetransmission as well? The reason I ask, is that I would like to replace the engine I have with a better engine, but, I don't want to over power. Greg H.

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

2005-09-15 Thread Zeke Yewdall
When the boulder-biodiesel crew was down in Colombia working on the biodiesel processor for gaviotas, they did try a batch of chicken scraps, boiling all the grease off and turning it into biodiesel. They said it worked fine, but smelled the lab up so bad that none of them felt like eating for a

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Zeke Yewdall
H. Are you sure you want to get that applied? The academics will be appalled. :) I am doing that right now with a VW rabbit, and I have settled on a SVO engine, vs an electric motor (with renewable energy to charge the batteries). The size and design of the engine is more dictacted by

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

2005-09-15 Thread Brian Rodgers
I followed a link in another thread to www.slashdot.org and found this: BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A German inventor said he has developed a method to produce crude oil products from waste that he believes can be an answer to the soaring costs of fuel, but denied a German newspaper story

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-15 Thread bob allen
It is not easy, due to the fact that ethoxide, can't be made by the combination of sodium or potassium hydroxide and ethanol, as one does with base plus methanol to form methoxide. It can be done however via alternative ways of making the ethoxide: K + EtOH --- K(+) (-)OEt + 1/2 H2

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Brian Rodgers
Very interesting discussion here. How many people here are swapping engines? I was giving some thought to removing the 351 ci gasaholic in my Ford f150 and replacing it with a diesel engine. Years ago (before I saw the advantage of diesel) I pulled a engine from my Mercedes 240d and did major mods

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Kirk McLoren
Too underpowered and the vehicle will be too slow to overtake and pass other vehicles. KirkGreg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, given the same vehicle ( and about the same weight ), how does one go about picking a replacement engine and perhapsthe replacing thetransmission as well? The

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Uh. Passing other vehicles? My first car was an old subaru that took several miles to hit 70mph on the highway. I don't think I'll be disapointed by a diesel rabbit. But seriously, if the average automobile engine nowadays has 40% more power than it needs for cruising at the speed limit (my

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread dwoodard
No, diesels are not susceptible to detonation which is a non-applicable concept in its pure form. You want a diesel to burn the fuel wherever the fuel is, as soon as it is injected. The problem is to get it to burn fast enough. Diesels do generate smoke from incomplete combustion as the air

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-15 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Bob and all, I seem to be having fairly good success drying 95% ethanol with 3A molecular sieve. I still have horrible problems making BioD with 100% ethanol (purchased)but I´m still working on it. Tom Irwin From: bob allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent:

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

2005-09-15 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, This reminds me of a thought I forgot to write down weeks ago. IfBioD made from french fry oil smells like French fries what does BioD made from Castor oil smell like? Tom Irwin From: Zeke Yewdall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 15 Sep 2005

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel

2005-09-15 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Ed, I think standard coffee filters are 10 micron. I have filters in the lab that filter down to 1.22 microns and others for sterilizing media that are .22 microns so it would not surprise me about automotive filters or restaurant filters. Tom Irwin From: Ed Hall [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-15 Thread bob allen
Tom, two questions, 1. how do you know the ethanol is being dried? and 2. what procedure are you using for bioD from ethanol? Tom Irwin wrote: Hi Bob and all, I seem to be having fairly good success drying 95% ethanol with 3A molecular sieve. I still have horrible problems making BioD

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-15 Thread Ken Provost
--- Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have horrible problems making BioD with 100% ethanol (purchased)but I'm still working on it. You probly know this already, but adding even 10-15% methanol to the anhydrous ethanol makes the reaction go markedly better. -K

[Biofuel] Fuel from dead cats

2005-09-15 Thread Andy Karpay
There was a company doing something similar, working next to a turkey processing plant, turning the entrails, feet, heads, feathers, etc into oil, gas, and minerals. Cats are not unique in their carbonaceous make up. ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread TarynToo
Hi Zeke, On Sep 15, 2005, at 5:59 PM, Zeke Yewdall wrote: ... Even the new hybrids get lousy gas mileage, because the hybrid design is optimized for adding power, not increasing mileage like the insight and prius were. ... Oh man, this just burns my a*s. I was so excited a few years ago

[Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr

2005-09-15 Thread Bede
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2ObjectID=10345772 A German has angered animal rights groups by inventing an organic fuel containing run-over cat remains. Inventor Christian Koch, 55, of Saxony, told the Bild newspaper he had gone 170,000km without a problem in his car on the

[Biofuel] changing trash into fuel

2005-09-15 Thread Andy Karpay
I've seen this before, and it works. Worked about a year on a similar project. The problem, as I see it, is what energy source is strong enough to create the plasma? If you believe in the law of conservation of energy (which I do) then you need either a big wire to the power plant, or else a

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Darryl McMahon
True. OTOH, if the job must be done, then you have to choose the best tool available from the limited selection that is available. Agreed. And that was my point. Pick the (most) right tool for the job. That is why you bother to learn what the best alternative is. If one size of

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-15 Thread Daniel Widyanto
Hi all, I thought we can dry up alkohol using CaO or Zeolite. Is it true ? So what's wrong with that method ? And by using CaO / Zeolite, is it possible to dry alkohol 70% v/v to 99% v/v ? Thank You -daniel On 9/16/05, bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, two questions, 1. how do you know

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread David Miller
Greg and April wrote: Ok, given the same vehicle ( and about the same weight ), how does one go about picking a replacement engine and perhaps the replacing the transmission as well? The reason I ask, is that I would like to replace the engine I have with a better engine, but, I don't

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Greg and April
With a GVWR of 5360, an 80-85 HP 4 banger, grades of up to 8% and stop signs stop lights that stop you in the middle of the hill, going to a smaller engine is not what I have in mind. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread David Miller
Zeke Yewdall wrote: One major way acceleration hurts is that engines are set to richen the mixture during hard acceleration in order to prevent detonation (knocking, pinging) at high cylinder pressures. Does this apply to diesel engines which almost always operate with excess oxygen? Not if

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC

2005-09-15 Thread Bobby Clark
Really, Five people that haven't tried it. When I get started, I'll be happy to help you, but if you know anyone who is already making it, I would like to know. Thanks, Bobby Clark From: Jerry Eyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Greg and April
Bingo! Greg H. - Original Message - From: Brian Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 15:27 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement? Very interesting discussion here. How many people here are swapping engines? I was giving

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Greg and April
I don't think that the transmission was optimized for fast acceleration, that little 4 banger diesel with only about 85 Hp is only capable of so much.The transmission is geared so low, that it doesn't take any effort to start from a dead stop in 2nd gear if necessary. Greg H. - Original

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-15 Thread Greg and April
I know what you are talking about. At 55 mph ( on the flats, no headwind, no cargo other than the spare tire, and 1 passenger ), I have a little reserve.At 65 mph I have almost none. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org