Re: [Biofuel] good wvo candidate

2005-10-12 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Mandy, if you are planning to use WVO as SVO, an indirect injection engine is the best choice, because it will perform good longer than the direct injected engine, since the SVO will create polymerization products on the nozzles, and the indirect injected engine is less sensitive to

Re: [Biofuel] Google laugh

2005-10-12 Thread Rexis Tree
hah, wonder why most people disagree him y still majority people vote him? Perhaps they dont have better choice. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at

Re: [Biofuel] Google laugh

2005-10-12 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo, The choice between Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee is exactly no choice at all let alone a better choice. ;o) Happy Happy, Gustl Wednesday, 12 October, 2005, 04:00:25, you wrote: RT hah, wonder why most people disagree him y still majority people RT vote him? Perhaps they dont have

Re: [Biofuel] Cummins unaware of fuel crisis?

2005-10-12 Thread Brian Rodgers
From: http://www.cummins.com/na/pages/en/customerassistance/faq/answers.cfm?uuid=00094\ 7AD-64AE-1B8D-BCF080C4A8F0 I found reference to this on my Peugeot group. The narrow minded diesel car owner (Ugly American?) which sent it out more or less says, Lose some power? Hell no, I'll stick

[Biofuel] plastic solar cell update

2005-10-12 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
Plastic solar power Group invents cells that could decrease cost of energy, if they last By Natalie Banach DAILY BRUIN SENIOR STAFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harnessing the power of the largest celestial object in the universe is not just the stuff of science fiction - it may soon become an efficient

Re: [Biofuel] Google laugh

2005-10-12 Thread Appal Energy
Gustl, When Tweedle Dum doesn't care squat about energy, health, environment and social issues, but Tweedle Dum by and large does, there is a definitive difference. The degree to which each gets caught up in the system that compromises principles, morals and ethics is generally also evident,

Re: [Biofuel] Google laugh

2005-10-12 Thread Appal Energy
That's not quite how politics works in the US. The minority of the population actually votes, approximately 30% of those eligible. It's the majority of the minority who determines the outcome. If that major-minority just so happens to be better organized or that mindset feels that their vote

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [New from GRAIN] Biosafety laws: co-opted by corporations

2005-10-12 Thread Joe Street
Why don't you send a copy to Sir Bob see if he can mobilize the troops for a concert or something, or even have a private audience with those fire starters. After all he is some kind of royalty isn't he? Maybe they will hand over thier matches to him? Lol. But seriously why we keep letting

Re: [Biofuel] Sen. Lieberman: Biofuel + Plug-In Hybrids on threshold of commercialization

2005-10-12 Thread Joe Street
Well, yes I was speaking from my experience, the people that I interact with and the society that I live in (which is Canadian - a facsimile of the US). These people (yes I am generalizing) are generally too content to make the mental effort, to engage thier conscience, to consider that each

Re: [Biofuel] plastic solar cell update

2005-10-12 Thread Paul S Cantrell
And if they could make the plastic out of hemp, it would really reduce the need for oil when they get mass-produced. Would lower COP, make them more sustainable, renewable and biodegradable. I am sitting here at my desk wondering why my TI calculator has a solar brick of 4 cells and my cell phone

Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA

2005-10-12 Thread Zeke Yewdall
You forgot to add the road tax and a markup for profit to the biodiesel... Anyone who is selling biodiesel has those costs too. On 10/9/05, Jason and Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sat here and figured up the ballpark cost of parts for BD in a 390 gallon batch-( i started my numbers with a

Re: [Biofuel] SVO for Commercial Trucks?

2005-10-12 Thread Zeke Yewdall
It's the same as for the cars -- only bigger. You can't get the kits, but all the stuff is just standard auto parts store stuff. We've converted a full sized school bus for about $500 in parts. I'd recommend reading the websites that talk about how to do it for cars, then once you understand the

[Biofuel] Hyper Deliquescent Polymer Beads

2005-10-12 Thread Brian Rodgers
Hi All I found this site http://www.hydrogenappliances.com/bioD.html#anchor966994 at http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/bb138ced-39da-48ac-94af-e25147c48196?r=10476 Anybody heard about these people? Brian Rodgers Acusorb(r) Beads Hyper Deliquescent Polymer Beads (Polymer contains Silver and

[Biofuel] liquid liqid centrifuge

2005-10-12 Thread michael skinner
has anyone tried a liquid liquid centrifuge. By continuously removing the dense gycerine you would drive the reaction forward requireing less methanol (the whole pont around the two step reaction) please see http://www.cheresources.com/centcontactor.shtml I think it would be possible to

Re: [Biofuel] SUV Drivers in Paris Get Wind Knocked Out of Them

2005-10-12 Thread Greg Ocnos
The military like to use there own fuel ( JP8?). This one fuel runs all there stuff, Humvees, tanks and plains as well. Greg O. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Luich Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:23 PM To:

[Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-12 Thread Bobby Clark
Why are there not a lot of people manufacturing biodiesel? Is it because that petro diesel is cheaper? It seems that I have seen estimates of between $2-$3 per gallon if you make it from virgin oil. If it burns cleaner (which it does) then why aren't manufacturers taking advantage of this

Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged dieselvehicle!?

2005-10-12 Thread DHAWA PESCAS, LDA
Hi Brian I remember a mechanic telling me almost 25 years ago that the hard starting problems on those motors was most often due to an uneven clearance between the top of the pistons and the cylinder head. The clearance on all four needs to be the same. This can be checked using a short piece

[Biofuel] methoxide solution

2005-10-12 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
Hi, I've recently bought new fresh methyl alcohol and lye. I have measured out exact amounts, mixed lye with methanol and - a bit of a surprise, the solution haven't actually got warm. No temperature, fumes, whatsoever. Is this normal, or could I have done something wrong ? The chemicals are

Re: [Biofuel] liquid liqid centrifuge

2005-10-12 Thread John Hayes
michael skinner wrote: has anyone tried a liquid liquid centrifuge. By continuously removing the dense gycerine you would drive the reaction forward requireing less methanol (the whole pont around the two step reaction) please see http://www.cheresources.com/centcontactor.shtml I

Re: [Biofuel] SVO for Commercial Trucks?

2005-10-12 Thread Jeromie Reeves
What MPG/SVO do you get? Zeke Yewdall wrote: It's the same as for the cars -- only bigger. You can't get the kits, but all the stuff is just standard auto parts store stuff. We've converted a full sized school bus for about $500 in parts. I'd recommend reading the websites that talk about how

Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA

2005-10-12 Thread logan vilas
I don't know if it's just a really good source or what, but I was Quoted $1.10 per gallon for methanol. If I bring my own container. If I have to buy in 55 gallon drums then it is 1.57 per gallon. That was quoted 9/14/05 in Thibideaux, Louisiana. Logan Vilas - Original Message -

Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged dieselvehicle!?

2005-10-12 Thread Brian Rodgers
Thanks Jed On 10/11/05, DHAWA PESCAS, LDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brian I remember a mechanic telling me almost 25 years ago that the hard starting problems on those motors was most often due to an uneven clearance between the top of the pistons and the cylinder head. The clearance on

Re: [Biofuel] SVO for Commercial Trucks?

2005-10-12 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Around 9mpg on SVO (or about 600 miles on a 70 gallon tank for SVO). It's a 1981 International DT466 engine with a 4 speed automatic transmission, and the bus weighs 23,000 lbs. I don't know what mileage it gets on diesel. Power seems to be about the same on diesel or SVO, unless the veggie oil

Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA

2005-10-12 Thread Brian Rodgers
I want some. Even at twice that price Brian Rodgers On 10/12/05, logan vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if it's just a really good source or what, but I was Quoted $1.10 per gallon for methanol. If I bring my own container. If I have to buy in 55 gallon drums then it is 1.57 per

[Biofuel] Cummins unaware of fuel crisis?

2005-10-12 Thread Brian Rodgers
From: http://www.cummins.com/na/pages/en/customerassistance/faq/answers.cfm?uuid=000947AD-64AE-1B8D-BCF080C4A8F0 I found reference to this on my Peugeot group. The narrow minded diesel car owner (Ugly American) which sent it out more or less says, Lose some power? Hell no, I'll stick with

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-12 Thread Zeke Yewdall
For the big refiners, I think the answer is obvious -- political inertia But for small refiners or starups, the biggest reason I can think of it the capital and time required to bring a plant on line. Who wants to lend a few million to a small entrepenuer to produce biodiesel when all the

Re: [Biofuel] SUV Drivers in Paris Get Wind Knocked Out of Them

2005-10-12 Thread Kurt Nolte
On 10/11/05, Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it me, or is the civilian Hummer, really bigger and annoying whencompared to the military Humvee? Latest news is that the military is actually looking into hybridizing their HumVees. That would, to me, be utterly hilarious, since they already

Re: [Biofuel] SUV Drivers in Paris Get Wind Knocked Out of Them

2005-10-12 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Here's some links on the military's reasons for going hybrid. Mostly better performance and redundancy from individual hub motors, the ability to travel in battery only mode to eliminate thermal signature, and fuel reduction. http://evworld.com/archives/conferences/evs14/humvee.html

Re: [Biofuel] Cummins unaware of fuel crisis?

2005-10-12 Thread Kurt Nolte
>From what I've been able to read both in my campus library and online... it sounds almost like they were getting their test results from a poor batch of the fuel. Maybe a bad commercial mixture? It also sounds like they're doing a great deal of CTA: Covering Their Ass. If something goes wrong

Re: [Biofuel] liquid liqid centrifuge

2005-10-12 Thread Andrew Lowe
Quoting michael skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: has anyone tried a liquid liquid centrifuge. By continuously removing the dense gycerine you would drive the reaction forward requireing less methanol (the whole pont around the two step reaction) please see

Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA

2005-10-12 Thread Jason and Katie
Zeke, I guess I should have been more specific. I was making the estimate assuming the brewer would be using the fuel themselves. it is a savings estimate, not a profit estimate. sorry for the confusion, jason --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

Re: [Biofuel] plastic solar cell update

2005-10-12 Thread Jason and Katie
ill play test dummy for these guys. just print me a ledger, and i'll gladly help with a field test. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Hyper Deliquescent Polymer Beads

2005-10-12 Thread Keith Addison
Oh dear! Not again!!! Accusorb beads, aarghh! Maybe they'd make a pretty necklace for someone's girlfriend. Please see list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg37322.html Re: [biofuel] Accusorb beads- fraud? They DON'T need any more free advertising! Best

Re: [Biofuel] liquid liqid centrifuge

2005-10-12 Thread michael skinner
do you have any links to NH Coop or Mike Briggs Original Message Follows From: John Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] liquid liqid centrifuge Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:35:46 -0400 michael skinner wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Grey water heat recovery and low tech Solar collectors????

2005-10-12 Thread John Hall
Jim, There are commercial grey water heat recovery systems out there. They recover 50% to 75% of the heat going down your drain, largely while taking showers. According to the DOE studies conducted. Check http://www.gfxtechnology.com/ There is one other company that makes a similar product for

Re: [Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?

2005-10-12 Thread David Miller
Bobby Clark wrote: Why are there not a lot of people manufacturing biodiesel? Is it because that petro diesel is cheaper? It seems that I have seen estimates of between $2-$3 per gallon if you make it from virgin oil. If it burns cleaner (which it does) then why aren't manufacturers taking

Re: [Biofuel] SUV Drivers in Paris Get Wind Knocked Out of Them

2005-10-12 Thread Michael Luich
The H2 are wannabe's, No ground cleareance, a less expensive way to look rich while picking the kids up at soccer. Mike LOn 10/12/05, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some links on the military's reasons for going hybrid.Mostlybetter performance and redundancy from individual hub

Re: [Biofuel] liquid liqid centrifuge

2005-10-12 Thread Jason and Katie
http://www.cheresources.com/centcontactor.shtml I think it would be possible to build something along these lines cheaply, take that old blender and put it inline with your reactor? i wouldnt be inclined to try building/using it without a damn good machinist working for me... ---

Re: [Biofuel] methoxide solution

2005-10-12 Thread Juan B
Hello, It happen to me too, I was wonderigh whether that was ok or not ? any tips !!On 10/12/05, Rafal Szczesniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I've recently bought new fresh methyl alcohol and lye. I have measuredout exact amounts, mixed lye with methanol and - a bit of a surprise,the solution

[Biofuel] Burger King WVO

2005-10-12 Thread bio
I have access to all the Burger King WVO that I want. But they use the crap out of it, only changing their oil once a week. I made a test batch and the only difference between the Burger King test batch and others is the dark color. So is it safe to use the Burger King BD?

[Biofuel] pvc question

2005-10-12 Thread Daniel Neeland
Hello all; I am in the process of building my own reactor and I was wondering if anyone has used PVC piping and pumps. I have a virtually free supply of PVC as well as some pool/ spa pumps to use for my project. I have already checked the chemical reactivity database, and it claims that PVC

Re: [Biofuel] SUV Drivers in Paris Get Wind Knocked Out of Them

2005-10-12 Thread Juan B
when I was at TTU I built a Hybrid Hummvee, it was poweed by 2 electrical 100KW motors and the third motor was use as a generator. The enegery for the generator was comming from a 1.8 turbo diesel engine. On 10/12/05, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some links on the military's

Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA

2005-10-12 Thread John Short
I would like to know the company that is selling for that price I just thought I had found a good deal @ $2.36 a gal. here in Dallas, Tx. And to get that price it has to be by the drum. - Original Message - From: Brian Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent:

[Biofuel] [biofuel] torturing people

2005-10-12 Thread MH
Remember, we invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein was such a horrible brute that he tortured people. Bush approval dips below 40 percent NBC-WSJ poll shows only 28 percent believe U.S. headed in right direction http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9672058/ The outrage of the week GOP stands up

[Biofuel] [biofuel] serious energy problem?

2005-10-12 Thread MH
Why have we not been able to get together as a nation to resolve our serious energy problem? David Morris: Carter's brave vision on energy October 7, 2005 http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5657601.html and http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=communiquenewsid=9808url=