Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's groupaccusesU.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread D. Mindock
Doug, That is good advice. Maybe not all but a goodly portion. I have been thinking about it for awhile. I keep telling my brother, who has tons of dough, to buy gold bullion. Stash it, not in any bank, and don't tell a soul that you've got it. This is to be a hedge, in case the new presidents

[Biofuel] Drug Spending Out of Control

2006-04-13 Thread D. Mindock
The truth is that for all chronic diseases, including cancer and heart disease, there are safe, very effective, alternative solutions. Of course, Big Pharma does want you to know this or to believe it. So they demonize all natural method doctors, calling them quacks or worse. They get the FDA to

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread Gary L. Green
Don't get me wrong.  You are high on the list of people I'd like to party with.On  13Apr, 2006, at 11:53 AM, D. Mindock wrote:Peace with justice, D. Mindock ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, small is more sustainable

2006-04-13 Thread bob allen
Ricin is a protein which would be denatured by the reaction conditions. Denaturation just means changing the shape of the protein, thus inactivating it. Same as hard boiling an egg more or less. Keith Addison wrote: Dear Pannirselvam Thanks for your message, sorry for the late reply.

Re: [Biofuel] Police Check Point - fuel dye test.]

2006-04-13 Thread Thomas Kelly
Darryl, You wrote: Actually, I've never wondered until now if they dye home heating oil as well. Anybody know? Answer:Yes they do. HHO is dyed a very deep red color here in the northeast USA. Tom - Original Message - From: Darryl

Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: Re: [DCBiodieselcoop] Police Check Point - fuel dye test.]

2006-04-13 Thread Mike Weaver
*MY* Biodiesel is a lovely green color... Paddy O'Weaver Keith Addison wrote: Howdy Hakan, the problem is my biodiesel is red :( , if I use a simple base catalyzed transesterification. My current source of wvo is from chicken processing plants, which apparently use red palm oil in the fryers.

Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, small is more sustainable

2006-04-13 Thread Keith Addison
Ricin is a protein which would be denatured by the reaction conditions. Denaturation just means changing the shape of the protein, thus inactivating it. Same as hard boiling an egg more or less. Thanks Bob. But I think the ricin doesn't get into the oil, it's in the husk, and thus in the

Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: Re: [DCBiodieselcoop] Police Check Point - fuel dye test.]

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Redler
(IMO) this speaks to how one should advocate biofuels. Although there is risk associated with voicing any opinion thatdiverges from "conventional wisdom", I'davoid big bumper stickersthat say"This vehicle runs on vegetable oil" (for example).I find that simple conversations in mixed company

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Jesse Hi Gustl, Mike, No one ever answers my posts (except Keith, our hero), Heavens, Jesse, surely you can do better than that, I'm not even my hero! LOL! so I can blithely write on this delightfully off-topic topic. (Off-topic??? Grrr!) Sure, just as long as you're blithe about it.

Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, small is more sustainable

2006-04-13 Thread bob allen
unsnip from previous By using one step simultaneous extraction and esterification , the patented process use crushed seeds to make four products , the BioD , the glycerol , the protein, carbohydrate that seem to deintoxicated for animal feed is now being scaled up to big pilot

Re: [Biofuel] Revolution!? [was] BYU professor's group accuses...

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Redler
A revolution!?Canada should be watching the Mexican immigration situation unfolding in the US for two reasons.First, the US is being invaded by a foreign army. This army is especially hard working and socially more aware and educated then the the people they are invading. Most important,

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Imagine

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Redler
The Fiddle and The Drum By Joni Mitchell (excerpt)And so once again Oh, America my friend And so once again You are fighting us all And when we ask you why You raise your sticks and cry and we fall Oh, my friend How did you come To trade the fiddle for the drum "D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Redler
"Just as long as nobody saves us from Frank Zappa."Yes! Brilliant!I'm liking this thread.:-)Mike"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-13 Thread mark manchester
Hi Keith! From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:40:07 +0900 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet Hi Jesse Hi Gustl, Mike, No one ever answers my posts (except Keith,

[Biofuel] Ottawa plan hacks green programs

2006-04-13 Thread Darryl McMahon
administration on this file, just more in-your-face about it. As usual, it's up to us to make the world we want. Darryl === http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060413.wxclimate13/BNStory/National/home Ottawa plan hacks green programs MARTIN MITTELSTAEDT

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accusesU.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread Keith Addison
Sell all your shares. Ditch the lot. remove the money from your bank. Buy up gold bars or stocks in gold. It is the only universally tradable currency, not to mention the outcome? Oh it would hurt, it would involve a total re-think. Doug It's sound advice Doug. It's been sound advice for

Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, small is more sustainable

2006-04-13 Thread Keith Addison
unsnip from previous By using one step simultaneous extraction and esterification , the patented process use crushed seeds to make four products , the BioD , the glycerol , the protein, carbohydrate that seem to deintoxicated for animal feed is now being scaled up to big pilot

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread Keith Addison
On 13 Apr 2006, at 10:18, D. Mindock wrote: A revolution is what we need here. Peaceful, of course. Well, that won't happen. Would somebody PLEASE get me my orbiting nuke platform? I need to make some changes here. I guess we need to ask: what would Martin Luther King Jr or Ghandi do?

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-13 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Jesse, Hey dere! So how's by you, eh? Well, I know a fellow named Mark who used to live in Manchester, Michigan. Wednesday, 12 April, 2006, 18:00:11, you wrote: mm Hi Gustl, Mike, mm No one ever answers my posts (except Keith, our hero), so I can mm blithely write on this

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread Gary L. Green
Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him what he wanted or you would have violence on your hands.The man was not a saint but he was very good at what he did.  That's why he had to be killed.On  14Apr, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Keith Addison wrote:"Peaceful Protest" always had the promise of

[Biofuel] What is sustainable?

2006-04-13 Thread Rexis Tree
What is sustainable? There are voices saying Malaysia and Indonesia oil palm plantation are not sustainable, and therefore the biodiesel they made are no point at all. I am very curious, how sustainable could a plantation be? Is there a way of sustainable plantation?

Re: [Biofuel] TAX was Police Check Point - fuel dye test.]

2006-04-13 Thread JJJN
In Montana all fuel that is used off road or for farming is dyed red except aircraft fuels as red fuel is not taxed when purchased. So to keep the untaxed stuff off the road they put dye in. At one time they dyed diesel yellow that was taxed - so they could tell if it was being diluted with

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuels Movement Is A Scam That Needs To Be Stopped

2006-04-13 Thread E. C.
Hi Alan; I mostly just read, here, having very little expertise in any of the technicalities; however, i feel compelled to speak up this time. This concerned citizen is not an idiot -- seems misinformed (probably by the MM as an only source (?), but raises some valid issues is stirring the

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Gian
-Original Message- From: mark manchester snip My Grandmother was sent to a convent when she was four, and never came back! Grandpa? A priest? GASOH, Michael ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] galvanized tanks

2006-04-13 Thread Andrew Leven
Hi , I just finished bubblewashing a 30L batch of bio but it is still cloudy. I have a galvanized tank from an old jet pump setup that is ported ideally for plumbing and adding a heating element. I want to use it for a clarifying tank but am unsure whether the galvy will react with my bio.

Re: [Biofuel] Garrison Keillor on Bush II

2006-04-13 Thread E. C.
Hey, Mike :-)~ I'm with you on what to do w/the burning shrub of Texas; I'd add that we send the rest of the PNAC cabal that's destroying our country with him, and emphasize the first sentence of your qquote boys ( girls - quite a few of them there, too) home, do that First! And i'm not

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread Keith Addison
Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him what he wanted or you would have violence on your hands. The man was not a saint but he was very good at what he did. That's why he had to be killed. And so that proves your point, there's no such thing as peaceful protest, it's just a

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-13 Thread Gary L. Green
May I be so bold as to make my own suggestions to you sir?Brian Protheroe:  I/You, PinballPeter Gabriel:  The first album only, right after leaving Genesis- very eclectic, even has some barbershop quartet.  Everything after that was strictly commercial.On 14 Apr 2006, at 06:26, Gustl

[Biofuel] Oil AND Ethanol out of Corn

2006-04-13 Thread Bruno M.
Is this the way to better economics in BD and ethanol production? From the same corn, they extract first the oil ( for BD production ) and afterwards make ethanol from the starch in it. But they don't tell what the rest product has for value left as cattle feed; after this double extraction.

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuels Movement Is A Scam That Needs To Be Stopped

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Redler
E. Allen C.You wrote: "Biofuel, IMVHO, is only a tiny slice of Sustainability, at best buys us a little time..."I doubt you will findmany home-brew biofuel enthusiasts telling you that it's "the" answer to our energy problems. In direct response to the above quote, biofuels will do much more than

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuels Movement Is A Scam That Needs To Be Stopped

2006-04-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hello E. Allen C. Hi Alan; I mostly just read, here, having very little expertise in any of the technicalities; however, i feel compelled to speak up this time. This concerned citizen is not an idiot -- seems misinformed (probably by the MM as an only source (?), but raises some valid

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread Appal Energy
Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him what he wanted or you would have violence on your hands. Violence at who's initiation? You mean to tell me those poor, backward, racist, white boys don't know how to behave and can't control themselves, so everyone else is supposed to

[Biofuel] The VW Rabbit is back.

2006-04-13 Thread Appal Energy
http://news.com.com/Photos+NY+Auto+Show+pulls+a+Rabbit+from+its+hat/2300-11389_3-6060841.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to

Re: [Biofuel] Revolution!? [was] BYU professor's group accuses...

2006-04-13 Thread Gary L. Green
Damn! Be quiet man. That's my retirement strategy. On 13 Apr 2006, at 22:26, Michael Redler wrote: Canada may see an exodus of stupid white men entering their country from the South. They will deny that they are seeking exile and insist that they are simply moving to the next State.

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread Gary L. Green
Okay, let's take this in chunks.Yes, there is peaceful protest but how effective is it really?  It's not.  It doesn't get much media coverage and gets ignored or forgotten if it is reported.People Power in the PI?  Again the threat of violence was there, there were isolated incidents if I remember

Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, small is more sustainable

2006-04-13 Thread Chandan Haldar
Some of my friends here in India (who know more about agriculture than I do) would have me believe that traditionally castor oilseed cakes are allowed to decompose by soaking in a little water for a couple of weeks and then put back into the soil as fertilizer (same as done with mustard