[Biofuel] was... was..Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Sounds cool, but big problem though. Where are you going to be able to fly these wackos with out causing collateral damage when one of them accidentally kills the pilot and the plane flys into a building a la WTC, For a general rule though, I think maybe two armed air marshals would be a

Re: [Biofuel] was..Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Paul S Cantrell
On 9/21/06, Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul you need to get your facts straight or at least your myths Or, Wikipedia does...Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pressurization I agree that my first post was unresearched and overly dramatic. My second post was

Re: [Biofuel] meanwhile, in the US

2006-09-22 Thread Chip Mefford
Mike Weaver wrote: Willie Nelson and the boys were on the road, and they stopped them and found a pound and a half of marijuana. bin Laden is still loose, but we got Willie Nelson. --David Letterman It's a funny thing. I've always wanted to share this, and I guess here's as good a place as

Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Joe Street
I understand that illegal handguns seized in Canada are for the most part traced to US sources. We need more border security. Perhaps we should create a department of homeland security. Illegal weapons from the US are a threat to our national security. I move that we impose economic

Re: [Biofuel] changes in titration values

2006-09-22 Thread Bob Carr
Hi Golan, Did you take your titration sample from the top of the tank? If your oil has stood for a couple of months, it is quite likely that all the worst oil has settled to the bottom of your tank and the best to the top. I would expect your titrations to get progressively higher as you

Re: [Biofuel] Science

2006-09-22 Thread Joe Street
The metal oxide is reduced during combustion operating as an oxidizer. This allows more fuel charge to be burned per stroke kind of like using nitrous oxide. Cerium particles come out in the exhaust rather than the oxide. Joe D. Mindock wrote: Joe, At

Re: [Biofuel] Science

2006-09-22 Thread Joe Street
Yes the Earth is our house. Kirk McLoren wrote: snip Use good housekeeping when working the cerium oxide so it isn't inhaled = or ingested. That's where alpha particles do their harm. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Oh yeah? Well, the US is going to build a freakin' 3,000 mile long fence along the 49th with canadian lumber and Mexican workers!(Tongue firmly planted in cheek)On 9/22/06, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that illegal handguns seized in Canada are for the mostpart traced to US

Re: [Biofuel] changes in titration values

2006-09-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
Golan, I have experienced similar results . not quite as dramatic a difference as yours. I don't know why, but it could bethat as water settles, some acids may settle with it. Heat definitely helps settle the water out. About 6 - 8 months ago I brought home WVO that looked good,

Re: [Biofuel] qulity tests help please

2006-09-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
Golan, I use the methanol solubility test to test for whether there was a complete or incomplete reaction. The third layer you refer to in the wash test is soap. Even in a complete reaction you will have some soap. You would like to reduce the amount of soap you are producing (3 - 4

Re: [Biofuel] Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Chip Mefford
Doug Foskey wrote: I feel I really need to give the Australian Perspective on this: I have to disagree with Chip. I was raised around the premise that guns are unnecessary. I live in Australia where we have had gun removal legislation for many years. I have never felt the need to own a

Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Doug Turner
Naturally,the wooden fence will be build by an aircraft company. Please fasten your seat belts and ignore the lakes behind the curtain. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul S CantrellSent: September 22, 2006 12:13 PMTo:

[Biofuel] Waste-to-energy idea smells like success in Gold River - Victoria Times Colonist - 2006.09.19

2006-09-22 Thread econogics
The possibility of Gold River opening its arms to Vancouver's trash doesn't faze the up-Island village's mayor, not after running the idea through a sniff test. What Green Island Energy proposes to burn in its planned Gold River power plant is not raw garbage, but combustible waste that has been

Re: [Biofuel] [OT] was... was..Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread DHAJOGLO
Tallex, Good question. They're not allowed to leave Texas airspace. So far, its more dangerous to eat spinach than it is to be flying with terrorists. So only one air marshal should be good. -dave On Friday, September 22, 2006 3:12 AM, AltEnergyNetwork wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006

Re: [Biofuel] was...was.. Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread DHAJOGLO
I believe I already alluded to this as the Maple Curitan. haha. On Friday, September 22, 2006 11:13 AM, Paul S Cantrell wrote: Oh yeah? Well, the US is going to build a freakin' 3,000 mile long fence along the 49th with canadian lumber and Mexican workers! (Tongue firmly planted in cheek)

[Biofuel] From the BBC -- Biofuels: Green energy or grim reaper?

2006-09-22 Thread Randall
Original Article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5369284.stm Send your comments: http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=3971edition=2ttl=20060922184357 Jeffrey A McNeely Biofuels could end up damaging the natural

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
Kirk, This is an absolutely fascinating study; especially to one with a basic knowledge of membrane structure, co-transport systems and cytology. I would think in the 20+ years since this particular study (1984) there would have been follow-up work on the use of Cesium, Rubidium, and

Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
if herbs dont work, then why is willow tea a painkiller? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
the pentagon took a cruise missile, thats all there is to that one. but i am inclined to agree with the fact that an insulated, fueled heat source will gather heat to the structural failure point. i have seen it in my own tinkerings as well. (just not on such a frightening scale) Jason ICQ#:

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
i had to sit through five and a half hours of replay after replay of the towers collapsingthat daymy seinor year in high school. they did NOT fall straight and squarely down, but made all sorts of funky angles beginning at the HUGE SMOKING HOLE in the side of each building. i personally

Re: [Biofuel] This why i want to get rid of my wood stove and heat with BD

2006-09-22 Thread robert and benita rabello
Mike Weaver wrote: How about a Kuma? After trying to find a Kuma online and getting an error message, I was finally able to get through today. Kuma makes wood stoves, and there are a lot of really good wood stoves available in Canada. What I need is a gasifying boiler, like this

Re: [Biofuel] Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
which jason? are we going to have to use initials now too? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bring loaded firearms

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
oh, come on! hundredsof tons of debris and building laying downthousandsof tons of impactforce after falling that far wont bend steel? even 2 inch diameter #8 bolts and those monsterous rivets they used would give out under that kind of onslaught. JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I have to disagree. A friend of mines father was working a few blocks away and saw the plane come in. That was how I found out the 9/11 events happened (I do not watch tv very much). Now maybe the made a cruise missle up to look like a plane, but it surely was a plane looking object that hit.

Re: [Biofuel] Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
the ideas either for or against guns are entirely subjective. i was raised in a household where guns are no more than a tool for collecting food. like any power tool, when handled improperly, they will cause injury or possible death, but with adequate training and maintenance they can be

Re: [Biofuel] From the BBC -- Biofuels: Green energy or grim reaper?

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
[OPINION] this is crap. [EDUCATED GUESS] this guy assumes ethanol and soy are the only viable feedstocks. [FACT] they are not. [OPINION]Mr. McNeelyhas not looked into his options very well, /and/ biofuels are only a stopgap measure to give us a few more decades to come up with a decent

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Jason,Have you ever been to the Pentagon? You just don't get the magnitude and scale of that structure until you are there.Please explain Picture 13: http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/pentagon_20020316.htmlCruise missiles do NOT make fireballs like this one, it was the

[Biofuel] 2 new additions

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
i have some fantastic news this week. on sunday, september 17th at 16:42 and 16:45 my small (yet excessively loud) twin sons Ryken and Xavier were born. katie is healthy, albeit tired, and the boys are on a steady track to coming home next week. (theyre in the nursery until they can regulate

Re: [Biofuel] 2 new additions

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Katie
correction- 20:42 and 20:45 Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: [Biofuel] 2 new additions i have some fantastic news this week. on

Re: [Biofuel] From the BBC -- Biofuels: Green energy or grim reaper?

2006-09-22 Thread Keith Addison
[OPINION] this is crap. Agree. [EDUCATED GUESS] this guy assumes ethanol and soy are the only viable feedstocks. [FACT]they are not. [OPINION] Mr. McNeely has not looked into his options very well, /and/ biofuels are only a stopgap measure to give us a few more decades to come

Re: [Biofuel] Bring loaded firearms aboard

2006-09-22 Thread Keith Addison
which jason? are we going to have to use initials now too? :-) Naah, he knows which Jason it is, and so do you, and I suspect so does everyone else. Best Keith Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] From the BBC -- Biofuels: Green energy or grim reaper?

2006-09-22 Thread Manick Harris
Hello members, In Malaysia alone there are miilions of tonnes of cellulosic materials availablevirtually free of cost or even credit atreplanting which is rated at 3% per annum from which many derivatives can be obtained. Currently these are not being exploited. They are openly burnt resulting in