Darryl,
What events are there in Ottawa? I'm in Ottawa.
Thanks,
O'Neil
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Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:15 AM
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Subject: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia
I had
O'Neil Brooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked (regarding Peak Oil and
Ottawa):
Darryl,
What events are there in Ottawa? I'm in Ottawa.
Thanks,
O'Neil
I don't know yet. I have registered for any updates. I will post these on the
Econogics EVents page as I become aware of them.
I had the opportunity to see this video on Thursday evening. (Part of the
program
for how Ottawa should deal with the consequences of Peak Oil.
Clearly a low-budget production, but it covered the topic well. Few surprises
for
those on this list, I expect. Set the context of the different
Thanks for this, it helps put the previous discussion in perspective.
About Ruppert, see below for Sheldon Rampton's view, with which I
agree (the guy's nuts):
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/35514/
The unfortunate thing is that there are people out there who take
Ruppert seriously,
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From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia and
Ruralization
: Greetings,
:
: I think our definitions of what is rural and what
is urban need to be
: straightened out. If you live
The New York Times Opinion
OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
Empty House on the Prairie
By BOB GREENE
Published: March 2, 2005
Chicago
IF you and your family would like to move to Crosby, N.D., not only
will the town give you a free plot of land on which to build your
house, they'll also throw in a
for their ideas.
Where I live, you used to be able to get 3 acres and a 1200 square foot
shell house for $18,600 with $1000 down and payments of $183 per month. No
credit check, no id required. The reality is that we attracted many of the
worst kind of people to the area. Theft
AntiFossil
Mike Krafka USA
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From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia and Ruralization
Greetings,
I think our definitions of what is rural and what is urban
AntiFossil
Mike Krafka USA
Greetings Mike,
Actually I am listing urban as a place that has lots of rules. Rural can
do for oneself. I live outside of a small town, don't know how many
people. They just incorporated around a year ago although the town was
established in 1832 in the
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia and Ruralization
: Greetings,
:
: I think our definitions of what is rural and what is urban need to be
: straightened out. If you live in a town, on an ordinary lot, in a single
: family home, you live an urban lifestyle, no matter where it is. The
: reason
: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia and Ruralization
: Greetings,
:
: I think our definitions of what is rural and what is urban need to be
: straightened out. If you live in a town, on an ordinary lot, in a single
: family home, you live an urban lifestyle, no matter where it is. The
: reason I say
perpetuate the
myth about the big bad public works. Privatize you may see any savings to
be had going off as profit to some far off investor instead of employing a
neibor.
Doug
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Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:52 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia
on 2/26/05 7:54 AM, Keith Addison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We've been grievously deskilled, especially in the industrialised
countries Compared with us now, for all our fancy degrees, our
gadgetry and scientific wonders, the average Joe from 1890 or so
makes most of us look like
Ken,
I totally agree with you and Kieth.
We've been deskilling for a long time.
I take the train from New Haven, CT to Stamford, CT every morning and back in
the evening. I can't help making observations about my fellow commuters.
Sometimes I think that I'm the only person on the train
Pannir,
I feel the same as you. The big cities ruin the ecology. The whole premis that
millions of people should live jam packed in a city is wrong.
Cities artificially compensate for the massive overtaxing of the ecology by
building waste water treatment plants, storm water run off systems,
I like cities (depending on the city). I like the rural life too, I
really don't know which I prefer. Both, I suppose.
Some comments below...
Pannir,
I feel the same as you. The big cities ruin the ecology. The whole
premis that millions of people should live jam packed in a city is
on 2/25/05 5:47 PM, John Mullan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excluding the global warming thing, the end of fossil fuel will, I believe,
cause a die-off of sorts. Overall production and delivery of food won't
quite keep up to todays rate. And there will be those that cannot cope
without
I recall my daughter researching cow gestation. I
think there is a 3 week spread between the breeds.
Kirk
--- Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings,
I live in the middle of nowhere and yes, we do see
this all the time. No
one walks anywhere, no bicycles, very few
It's always seemed strange that (at least here in USA-NJ) we see signs
advertising the sale of Deer Feed .. and the accepted reason for hunting
deer, other than the sport, is for population control .. and after every
culling the deer population doubles and/or triples because all the
females
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:31 PM
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One of those facts that kind of stand out there.
Population growth is according to the available food source.
It's always seemed strange that (at least here in USA-NJ) we see signs
Kim
Greetings
All the overcrowed urban , the place in MEGA City become
much expensive, ecologically destructive , the under developed
suburban areas having less people.These suburban place around the
city can be used make food, fuel , feed needed for the urban city.
But
on 2/25/05 5:47 PM, John Mullan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excluding the global warming thing, the end of fossil fuel will, I believe,
cause a die-off of sorts. Overall production and delivery of food won't
quite keep up to todays rate.
Disagree. Many and diverse examples prove the
Of Keith Addison
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 5:39 PM
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Hello Rob
The film is not predicting die-off, it is predicting/describing a
probable coming change.
I wasn't talking about the film, and this below was a quote from
noticed. Or very few anyway. So much
for die-off at the end of Big Oil.
This time round, it was quoted as part of a comment on another film,
Yank Tanks, mentioned by Kirk. The whole message is here:
http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050221/006287.html
[Biofuel] End of Suburbia
I
Connection Healing Modalities
http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/
From: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:47:00 -0500
Excluding the global warming thing, the end of fossil fuel
I agree with Paddy
I live 35-40 miles from a (Walmart) town in 3 directions
Athens,Zanesville and Marietta.
We do go every month and get a load of supplies
But home is deep in the hills away from all and everything.
now I ve got a VW TDI that gets 50mpg and you learn how to get by with
.
Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel
The Animal Connection Healing Modalities
http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/
From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:00:52 -0800
on 2
The film is not predicting die-off, it is predicting/describing a
probable coming change.
Are they starving? No. This has been going on for quite a while now, but
nobody seems to have noticed. Or very few anyway. So much for die-off
at the end of Big Oil.
As I assume (yikes! ..pardon)
I live in the middle of nowhere and yes, we do see this all the time. No
one walks anywhere, no bicycles, very few motorcycles. They drive 25 miles
to the city daily for whatever, even if they do not work. Many who live
here drive 150+ miles a day to work and back.
Me, I go to town once
farm is purchased at an elevated price just to fool around and the main
income is through some other area. My father did the reverse - he
inherited a farm from his father but found the income too low so he
became a carpenter/builder/undertaker and ended up farming just as a
hobby, plus he
few anyway. So much
for die-off at the end of Big Oil.
This time round, it was quoted as part of a comment on another film,
Yank Tanks, mentioned by Kirk. The whole message is here:
http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050221/006287.html
[Biofuel] End of Suburbia
I said at the end
I wasn't talking about the film, and this below was a quote from a
previous message:
My bad..sorry for the bit of confusion on my part.
As you say, more sensible behaviour will simply become unavoidable.
Perhaps above all else, humans as a species are good at adapting, and
adapt we
on 2/24/05 8:18 AM, R Del Bueno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a great film out now called The End of Suburbia ..
Oil depletion and the collapse of the American Dream
http://www.endofsuburbia.com/
Matthew Simmons is featured in the film quite a bit.
Everyone should see this film.
That is why I liked Yank Tanks so much. The embargo
on Cuba produced very much the results we anticipate.
It is a documentary of what people did with basically
just their hands.
Increasing the fuel efficiency of their transportation
is just one of the things they did.
Kirk
--- Ken Provost
moved down the country (Ireland) and is currently living 21 miles out
from the city (in deliverance land) here's my angle on the thing.
1. Living in the city was hell - I cycled to work and at least once a
week had my life threatened by a driver eventhough I wore the brightest
clothes
(not solution) is that a possible trouble with moving further out is that
unless you can provide all of your own goods/services (which most can not),
the increased distance will require MORE not less transportation (and hence
more energy). High density living facilitates a
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on 2/24/05 8:18 AM, R Del Bueno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a great film out now called The End of Suburbia ..
Oil depletion and the collapse
On Feb 24, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Juan Boveda wrote:
A long time ago I choose at the same time 2 options you mentioned:
a) move in closer (to a working place)
and
c) get further out (to the countryside)
I used to live in the capital city of Asuncion, its population is
around
1/2 million
Febrero de 2005 1:01 PM
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia
on 2/24/05 8:18 AM, R Del Bueno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a great film out now called The End of Suburbia ..
Oil depletion and the collapse of the American Dream
http://www.endofsuburbia.com
It's on my list Kirk, but I'll have to wait awhile.
The embargo
on Cuba produced very much the results we anticipate.
It is a documentary of what people did with basically
just their hands.
Increasing the fuel efficiency of their transportation
is just one of the things they did.
Perhaps
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