Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-11 Thread Keith Addison
OK, Lets see if I have this straight, from what I have read; - Methanol is bad as a single fuel unless designed for it, but ok to disperse water as an additive like Heet, - Washed Biodiesel is a compound containing methanol so it does not react like methanol nor have its properties - But if you

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-08 Thread Zeke Yewdall
So, if I use ASTM washed biodiesel, how much of it could I add in a gas engine? Greg, I think you said 15% or so in the jeeps, but I'm wondering what effects you notices on energy performance: smoother, harder starting, plug life, mileage, etc Thanks Zeke Boulder, CO, USA On 9/7/05,

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Gregg Hi Keith, I was just giving him info that I had run across in the owner's manual of a car I'd just bought to which I was thinking of adding a little BD with the gas. Once I saw that warning, I elected to err on the side of caution. I have seen that warning in at least 4 owner's manuals

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-08 Thread bob allen
I haven't followed this thread too closely so if my comments are off the mark, just ignore them. 1. the methanol in fatty acid methyl esters is chemically combined so is a non-issue with respect to concerns about methanol in engines. 2. Spark ignition engines are not built to burn diesel

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread Chris
Hi: Don't professional race car drivers use methanol in their engines? So why can't it be used in an ordinary car? I'm guessing race car engines should be more sensitive. Anyone care to comment? Best, Christopher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread Ray J
Methanol is a common thing to put in a tank of gas anywhere in the world when it gets cold outside ... it stops the water from pooling in the tank and freezing... its avalable in any store arould here in the states http://www.goldeagle.com/heet/index.htm Heet is 100% methanol Ray J

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Christopher and all Hi: Don't professional race car drivers use methanol in their engines? So why can't it be used in an ordinary car? I'm guessing race car engines should be more sensitive. Anyone care to comment? Best, Christopher I went looking some time back and foun this at a race

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread Bill Vaughn
There are a number of reasons why methanol is not a good fuel to use. Number one is that it is highly ( very highly) corrosive. Number two is that methanol needs to be jetted %60 richer than gasoline. Which means it would take darn near twice the fuel compared to gasoline. Bill From: Chris

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread Joe Street
Methanol is an excellent fuel. (in some respects at least) It requires drastically different jetting in the carbs or injection programing. IIRC the stoichiometric ratio for gasoline is about 14:1 A/F ratio but for methanol is something like 4:1. Figure this into economy calculations. Heat of

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread Chris
Thanks guys. Best, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 5:52 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel Hello

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread Ray J
Thats funny .. i have been around race engines on and off for years, on dirt tracks , drag strips, and go karts and have not heard / seen anything special about them compared to their gasoline burning versions other than carb setup. mabey its just on them million dollar indy car

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hi Keith, I was just giving him info that I had run across in the owner's manual ofacar I'd just bought to whichI was thinking of adding a little BD with the gas. Once I saw that warning, I elected to err on the side of caution.I have seen that warning in at least4 owner's manuals from different

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol in Engines was Materials, Venturis and Biodiesel

2005-09-07 Thread dwoodard
Ray, it's been well known for many years that high concentrations of methanol have a bad effect on light metals and their alloys, and on many organic compounds used in engine intake systems. It's been so well known for so long that the racers who use methanol fuel mostly all know about and take