Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike I'm puzzled. We use 100% biodiesel in this stove, a standard kerosene pressure stove from India: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html#stove It's just the same as all the other pressure stoves and blowtorches I've used, Primus and so on, and pressure lanterns (I had an

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Greetings Keith, I'm going to try it on kerosene and if that works I'll know it's not the stove. I have heard from some other Petromax owners that there may have been a bad batch of stoves. This one does have a bad pressure gauge. I will call Britelyt and see what they say. The BD I put in

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-08 Thread Keith Addison
Greetings Mike Greetings Keith, I'm going to try it on kerosene and if that works I'll know it's not the stove. I have heard from some other Petromax owners that there may have been a bad batch of stoves. This one does have a bad pressure gauge. I will call Britelyt and see what they say.

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Weaver
IPA hard to get? I can't get rid of it! Joe Street wrote: I would say try kerosene or heating oil. Gasoline is too volatile and can create explosive atmospheres. Keep the IPA for titrations!! it is one of the more difficult items to get. Joe Mike Weaver wrote: I've done some initial

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt?

2005-12-06 Thread Ken Dunn
Please, let us know how it does, Mike. Take care, On 12/5/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got a Britelyt today. Haven't been able to get it to light on BD but I think it may be due to the fuel being too cold. Will report back if I get it going. Ken Dunn wrote: What is

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
So far all attempts to light it have failed. It's 30 degrees here and that may have something to do with it. I cut the BD w/ a good shot of Dino diesel and still no go. I got the preheater going but no flame on the ring. I brought it inside overnight to warm up and will try it again. If

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
Hi Mike For what it's worth I tried running my multifuel backpacking stove on BD. I had to warm the preheater / vaporizer tube with a propane torch to get it hot enough to vaporize the BD. Once lit though it had a beautiful and stable blue flame and judging by boil time comparisons roughly

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Ken Dunn
Just selfishly thinking outloud...I wonder if it would be possible to pre-preheat it with a Sterno. On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the temperature outside? I tried that with a torch and got a few sputters but no flame. Is kerosene the most logical agent to cut the

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
I tried heating the vaporizing ring with a propane torch Ken Dunn wrote: Just selfishly thinking outloud...I wonder if it would be possible to pre-preheat it with a Sterno. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
I use jellied alcohol (like sterno but runny) for pre heating my stove on the trail. It wasn't enough heat for the biodiesel though. Even with kerosene it takes a prolonged period of preheat with sterno to light the stove. If you turn the fuel valve on prematurely you get liquid coming out the

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Ken Dunn
Well that's bummer-style news there, Joe. I was hoping to use a multi-fuel stove on the trail as well as for preheating my biodiesel process. Of course, I suppose it would still be an improvement to use the stove for preheating wvo to make biodiesel even with the propane used from the torch to

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
Uh...outdoors?? I dunno but it was warm in my basement. :-[ J Mike Weaver wrote: What was the temperature outside? I tried that with a torch and got a few sputters but no flame. Is kerosene the most logical agent to cut the BD with? Joe Street wrote: Hi Mike For

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
Hi Ken; It's not a matter of re-jetting as I said the fuel has to be boiling in the generator tube so that it is vapour which reaches the jet not liquid. As long as there is enough heat it works great. Given enough time a sterno flame can no doubt heat things enough but the problem is

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What about the type of burners that are designed to use a liquid fuel directly rather than volatilize a liquid fuel? Like fuel oil furnaces, and waste engine oil burners. All of these I have seen are in the 100,000 Btu/hr range though -- if you could find one more like 10 or 20 kBtu, it might

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or later I'll find an oil furnace someone is throwing away and see what I can do. If I had to cut the BD with another agent to make it easier to use I would do that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Gasoline? I have 55

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
Maybe I could just throw the BD into the reactor tank and warm it up first. I do that sometimes anyway to clear cloudy BD. I would NOT count on a camping stove to light on BD the trail, unless you are in Arizona in July! Joe Street wrote: Hi Ken; It's not a matter of re-jetting as I said

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
Howdy Mike, Mike Weaver wrote: I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or later I'll find an oil furnace someone is throwing away and see what I can do. If I had to cut the BD with another agent to make it easier to use I would do that. Does anyone have any

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
I would say try kerosene or heating oil. Gasoline is too volatile and can create explosive atmospheres. Keep the IPA for titrations!! it is one of the more difficult items to get. Joe Mike Weaver wrote: I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or later I'll

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
But if you do this those light molecules will eventually get jostled to the top and then hop into the air space in the container above the surface of the liquid eventually building up pressure in the closed container until it reaches the vapour pressure of the more volatile liquid (at that

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread David Miller
Mike Weaver wrote: I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or later I'll find an oil furnace someone is throwing away and see what I can do. If I had to cut the BD with another agent to make it easier to use I would do that. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm only interested in using a mix in the Petromax to heat BD. I heat my house with wood anyway. I don't plan to mix gasoline with BD or HHO and use it inside - besides my furnace is gas, not that I run it if I can help it. I would like to take apart a Beckett or Riello or similar to see how

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt?

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
Just got a Britelyt today. Haven't been able to get it to light on BD but I think it may be due to the fuel being too cold. Will report back if I get it going. Ken Dunn wrote: What is everyone using as a heat source for preheating? I'm thinking about buying the BriteLyt mentioned on JtF.