For quite sometime I have felt the fairest way to charge for internet
access, by the amount of data the internet transports on behalf of the user.
That would crimp the style of commercial email, cause some to rethink their
need to send cutesy html formatted email and large attachments to
What SBC is asking is not for (just) end users to pay for the BW they
use. Its for Google, Yahoo and the likes
to pay for the BW that SBC users use FROM them. IE they want the phone
standards applies to IP networks
and that is just plain wrong to force on people after the fact. All
phone
Exactly the whole point of the definition in the hackers dictionary.
Thanks, Jeromie.
Anyway, I can't pretend to be a hacker (however honorable the true
meaning of the term may be). Sorry to disappoint all hoping to meet a
Matrix character in real life.
Chandan
Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Do
What are people who make there own biodiesel? I would think of them
along the same mentality
as the original hackers. Loosely put, people who were not happy with the
status quo and decided
to take matters into their own hands.
Jeromie Reeves
Chandan Haldar wrote:
Exactly the whole point of
. I will
start to experiment with the E85 soon for the other vehicles.
Andres
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What are people who make
Funny when you think that the internet all started with DARPA
Mike McGinness
Evergreen Solutions wrote:
I just wanted to chime in very quickly about the hacker mentality and ethic.
In theory, hackers hack to make things better. Security, speed,
effeciency, clock cycles, whatever.
I
GNU Emacs has this nice little diversion in its mail handling facility:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/Mail-Amusements.html#Mail-Amusements
Some samples of what it can automatically add to the end of a mail is at
the end of this mail. Joe, sorry to disappoint uncle S, but I
I must quickly add that I didn't mean to suggest using Emacs for email.
It was a great mail env once for text based email, but probably won't be
suitable for normal email usage today (with html, graphics, attachments,
etc).
Chandan
Chandan Haldar wrote:
GNU Emacs has this nice little
Whoa Chandan!That looked like legitimate spy talk (like I know what I'm talking about)....you still there? If you are, smile for the itty bitty camera.:-)MikeChandan Haldar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GNU Emacs has this nice little diversion in its mail handling
ROFL ROFL
I'm not sure it will be appreciated as an addition to the archives but
if you just want a couple of subversive keywords to revolve the wheels
of the big machines a little further why don't you try some of
theseand don't forget to set your mailer to send once per
minute!
Do not forget the difference between hacker and cracker. The news would
have us all think that all hackers==crackers but that
simply is not true. The term Hacker first meant a person to did there
own computer work (more or less but absolutely with no
crime) and crackers were hackers who also did
Joe Street wrote:
ROFL ROFL
Aldergrove? I used to live there. It's a town full of single moms
on welfare who move from one relationship with a no-good guy to the
next. What's so subversive about Aldergrove?
robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
Adventure for Your Mind
Yes, on behalf of government agencies and universities. The original
internet.
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Here's the 'Hacker' entry in Eric Raymond's The Hackers Dictionary (aka
the jargon file):
http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
Having been deep in that world for a while now, I see today's hacker
community as a highly heterogeneous community with a variety of views
revolving
Good point Chandan.I guess I'm a hacker too.MikeChandan Haldar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the 'Hacker' entry in Eric Raymond's The Hackers Dictionary (aka the jargon file):http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.htmlHaving been deep in that world for a while now, I see today's
Easy big fella. You may be in violation of the patriot act with that
admission!
What are your coordinates.
Joe
Michael Redler wrote:
Good point Chandan.
I guess I'm a hacker too.
Mike
Chandan Haldar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's
the 'Hacker' entry in Eric Raymond's
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Hello Chandan
Here's the 'Hacker' entry in Eric Raymond's The Hackers Dictionary
(aka the jargon file):
http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.htmlhttp://www.catb.o
rg/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
Having been deep in that world for a while now, I see today's hacker
community as a
Hello Mike
Keith,
Your last paragraph really jumped out at me for two reasons:
Except that the Internet keeps growing and spreading and
getting faster and better and ever more firmly rooted in all our
societies.
These are some of the most encouraging words I've read in a while on
this
and a bomb, bomb
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hate
to you too.
Michael Redler wrote:
Hey, I heard that the secret service filters words from email traffic
and may categorize you based on the content of your messages.
So, in the spirit of domestic spying...
Jihad Jihad Jihad Jihad Jihad
I just wanted to chime in very quickly about the hacker mentality and ethic.
In theory, hackers hack to make things better. Security, speed,
effeciency, clock cycles, whatever.
I just heard a story on NPR tonight about prius hackers who have
doubled the effeciency of their Prius's by adding
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/31753/
The End of the Internet
By Jeffrey Chester, The Nation. Posted February 6, 2006.
America's big phone and cable companies want to start charging
exorbitant user fees for the supposedly-free internet.
The nation's largest telephone and cable companies
Keith,So, it seems as though the federal government (a.k.a.corporate America) is threatened bythe Second Superpower and is making preparations for war.MikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/31753/The End of the InternetBy Jeffrey Chester, The
I found this interesting. Since I've been using my
Window XP system some email threads have been deleted
regarding global warming exchanges.
One thread started to discuss one persons belief that
one billion cows flatulent methane emissions were
the cause of global warming. I thought this
Ok so we go wireless. The original idea for internet protocol came
from packet radio which was an amateur radio thing. Granted the
bandwidth was not to be compared but I can easily set up an ad hock net
over several kilometers using a standard wireless adapter and a high
gain antenna which is
Well there may be something to this. It may not be the main source of
greenhouse gas but IIRC methane is 6 times more potent as a greenhouse
gas than CO2 and there are a lot of cows being grown to serve the north
american obsession with beef. And they do fart a hell of a lot!
Consider also
Hi Mike
Keith,
So, it seems as though the federal government (a.k.a. corporate
America) is threatened by the Second Superpower and is making
preparations for war.
:-) Maybe. Or maybe it's just what corporations do all the time
anyway, they want to own everything. They had such an easy time
And what about the permafrost thawing ?
Joe Street wrote:
Well there may be something to this. It may not be the main source of
greenhouse gas but IIRC methane is 6 times more potent as a greenhouse gas
than CO2 and there are a lot of
cows being grown to serve the north american
Joe Street wrote:
Well there may be something to this. It may not be the main source of
greenhouse gas but IIRC methane is 6 times more potent as a greenhouse
gas than CO2 and there are a lot of cows being grown to serve the
north american obsession with beef. And they do fart a hell of a
Keith,Your last paragraph really jumped out at me for two reasons:"Except that the Internet keeps growing and spreading and getting faster and better and ever more firmly rooted in all our societies." These are some of the most encouraging words I've read in a while on this subject. I
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Seems to me I've been reading stories like this for at least 10
years. It keeps upping the ante each time
John Mullan wrote:
I don't like the flimsy excuse give by that Telecom guy why should they use
our pipes for free.
Wasn't all of that infrastructure built on the backs of rate payers
anyway?
robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca
Wireless can easily supply the same speeds as most of the DSL in service
right now. It takes planning
and the correct gear but it works very well. WISP's will be the future
if/when this is implemented. We
are luck as Google was ABC's first target and they said go to H#LL! to
SBC. In the end
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