i thank you for your help Mr. Mahoney.
the known variables will be:
pH of the base (by reference measurement)
pH of the Oil (by measurement)
volume of the oil (by external input)
the unknown will be:
volume of base needed to reach a pH of 8.4
i dont really need numbers, just a formula that i
Hey Jason;
If you are bent on doing this, why not approach it from a different
angle? Make a system that imitates what you do yourself, instead of
trying to do it numerically just make a system that does what you do.
It could all be done by way of gravity feed and counting drops by use of
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Hey Jason;
If you are bent on doing this, why not approach it from a different
angle? Make a system that imitates what
It's been a few years since I took chemistry, but I seem to recall
that pH is a logarithm of the number of H+ ions in solution. At least
in an aqueous solution. That definition might not hold up under a
non-aqueous solution such as methoxide. But if you convert from pH to
moles of H+ or OH-
, and
cannot afford the 7500$ bits of equipment they so happily supply their
students.
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Hey Jason;
If you are bent
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Jason Katie,
If you are titrating to a specific pH (say 8.4) and want to automate it
then a
standard waste water pH controller operating a small flow rate pump
designed to
handle the titrant
Logan Vilas
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Mr. McGinness
i thank you for the advice on the pumps/ flow
Jason Katie,
If you are titrating to a specific pH (say 8.4) and want to automate it then a
standard waste water pH controller operating a small flow rate pump designed to
handle the titrant (the titrant would be liquid caustic, yes? If so I recommend
a
teflon pump) should do the trick. You
Mr. McGinness
i thank you for the advice on the pumps/ flow controls, i hadnt considered
ready-made equipment (i usually build my own rig) ill have to look into
that, but my problem does not lie within the realm of mechanics. i need a
mathematical equation that i can manipulate to find the
IF USED OIL PH=6.2 THEN ADD 2.3 GRAMS PER A LITER OF 100% KOH TO
REACH PH 8.5
Logan Vilas
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Jason Katie,
The problem is that pH alone does not tell the complete story. The amount of
base
required to reach a pH of 8.4 to 8.6 will vary with each batch and depends on
the
concentration and reactivity of each chemical compound in the oil and the purity
of the base. This is why we do a
or take an easy way out, im trying to
give myself the ability to do good work consistently.
jason
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Joe Street writes:
... If you are really well
coordinated you might be able to control the [titrating] solution with
one hand and stir with the other but I am waaay too clumsy for that
... [versus using a magnetic stirrer]
Joe, you gave me a chuckle along with some pleasant nostalgia. My
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AM
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titration
Hi Nigel;Yes I meant keep it manual. To what
advantage? Well simplicity mostly. Automation IMHO does not offer much
Mr. Street,
how does semi local sound? there are almost a dozen towns of more than 1,000
but less than 10,000 people spread over two counties in the (rather
inaccurately named, i might add) Quad Cities, plus the original four cities,
and until the eighties (surprise) there were large farm
and after the
titration ,n computer log files.
Regards
Burak
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hi everyone, haven't
myself the ability to do good work consistently.
jason
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I think you should 'manualize' the process.
Joe
Sorry - I don't follow...
You mean do it manually? And if so - to what advantage?
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I think you should 'manualize
, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] automating titration
hi everyone, haven't been posting for a couple months (points to old ISP
retches) but i was messing around in my head a few weeks ago and was
wondering if there was any simple formula that could be used to digitize
and
automate a titration
I think you should 'manualize' the process.
Joe
Jason Katie wrote:
hi everyone, haven't been posting for a couple months (points to old ISP
retches) but i was messing around in my head a few weeks ago and was
wondering if there was any simple formula that could be used to digitize and
hi everyone, haven't been posting for a couple months (points to old ISP
retches) but i was messing around in my head a few weeks ago and was
wondering if there was any simple formula that could be used to digitize and
automate a titration of oil as compared to lye for fry-grease diesel. i
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