oh, duh. . . .thanks for the correction.
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oh, duh. . . .
:-) Never mind... I said the same thing when it finally dawned on me
that the archives hadn't vanished after all.
thanks for the correction.
You're welcome.
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From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] lye electrolysis for rust removal
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 6:10 PM
Hi,
I must admit I haven't used it yet, but washing soda
(sodium carbonate, soda
ash) can be used with an iron
hi, all, thanks for the replies. i do understand that it won't
restore an item to original condition. i was just curious why some
would choose to add zinc to the lye bath. seems sort of. . .i'm not
sure what word i'm looking for. just seems to needlessly complicate
things. keith, you linked
Hi Chris
hi, all, thanks for the replies. i do understand that it won't
restore an item to original condition. i was just curious why some
would choose to add zinc to the lye bath. seems sort of. . .i'm not
sure what word i'm looking for. just seems to needlessly complicate
things. keith,
out of curiosity, i did a web search for lye and rust. the search
gave 650,000 hits, including some discussion right here. some people
add zinc to the lye solution, the idea being, apparently, that the
zinc replaces the iron in the iron oxide. anyone have any thoughts on
whether there's any
Hi,
I must admit I haven't used it yet, but washing soda (sodium carbonate, soda
ash) can be used with an iron container or rods (not stainless, or you get
nasty by-product). A battery charger is used for the power source.
look here:
http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp
Hope that helps,
: [Biofuel] lye electrolysis for rust removal
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 6:10 PM
Hi,
I must admit I haven't used it yet, but washing soda
(sodium carbonate, soda
ash) can be used with an iron container or rods (not
stainless, or you get
nasty
Hi Chris
out of curiosity, i did a web search for lye and rust. the search
gave 650,000 hits, including some discussion right here. some people
add zinc to the lye solution, the idea being, apparently, that the
zinc replaces the iron in the iron oxide. anyone have any thoughts on
whether
Hi all,
I have a small batch that appars to contain too much lye as
wash test shows quite a bit of soap under murky biodiesel
(which after all doesn't wash and remain a chicken soup).
Is there a good way to reprocess it ? I know I can process
unfinished batch (too little lye) as it still contains
On Jul 25, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Rafal Szczesniak wrote:
I have a small batch that appars to contain too much lye as
wash test shows quite a bit of soap under murky biodiesel
(which after all doesn't wash and remain a chicken soup).
Is there a good way to reprocess it ?
The soap layer is a
Hi,
If anyone just starting up in the UK is looking for a supply of NaOH in
small quantities.try BQ concentrated caustic soda.
It is actually pretty pure, I just made a 1L test batch with new rapeseed
oil. Wash test and methanol test are both spot on.
Bob
Hi,
If anyone just starting up in the UK is looking for a supply of NaOH in
small quantities.try BQ concentrated caustic soda.
It is actually pretty pure, I just made a 1L test batch with new rapeseed
oil. Wash test and methanol test are both spot on.
Bob
I'd be interested also.
Please provide info on payment.
Thanks, Gary
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From:
Evergreen Solutions
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:53
PM
Subject: [Biofuel] lye supply
Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so
Evergreen Solutions wrote:
my name is now officially
"people"Are you saying that I should address each person
individially, or that maybe you're interested?
im interested...Very. i can't get lye anywhere
other than the hardware store, and who knows when they'll run
out.
As of right now I think I'm going to do them via e-bay, as a security
function for all involved, unless someone has a better idea. We have a
site, but it's very VERY unfinished, I don't want a buy here link to
look shady.
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Our cooperative here just made arrangements for continuing, large scale
NaOH delivery from a large chemical supply company. As an effort to
share this with the community, we're prepared to offer it to
homebrewers for $2 a pound plus shipping (and shipping is apparently
about $6 most of the
my name is now officially "people"
Hi
all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised it is NOT an
ad.Our cooperative here just made arrangements for continuing, large
scale NaOH delivery from a large chemical supply company. As an effort to
share this with the community, we're
This sounds like an outright lye!!
regards Doug
On Thursday 27 October 2005 3:17, Jason and Katie wrote:
my name is now officially people
Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised it is NOT an ad.
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As for:On 10/27/05, Doug Foskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This sounds like an outright lye!!
regards Doug
I did email keith separately several days ago to get his
permission. We're not making money on this proposition, I'm just trying
to share, if you're got your own supply or are afraid of
Include me in the interested group.
Bobby Clark
From: Evergreen Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] lye supply
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:53:27 -0400
Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised
A direct way of converting metric to english and vice versa is touse "Master Converter".
You canuse google to search the url.This is better than to use approximations.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Remember that water weighs 1 kilogram per litre, by the originaldefinition of the litre. If Joe's specific
I am trying to understand the conversion of lye quantities from metric to
imperial and I have stumped myself in the process.
I understand from given data that lye is used in the amount 1.0% of the
virgin vegetable oil weight. It's given that this is approximately 3.5
grams/liter. This
Hunter McCormack wrote:
I am trying to understand the conversion of lye quantities from metric
to imperial and I have stumped myself in the process.
I understand from given data that lye is used in the amount 1.0% of
the virgin vegetable oil weight. It's given that this is
www.onlineconversion.com is very helpful!
What kind of oil?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html
Where does the 1% come from?
Are you confusing the amounts of lye with titration?
NaOH for virgin oil is 3.5 grams/liter
0.1% w/v lye solution
About Lye:
Remember that water weighs 1 kilogram per litre, by the original
definition of the litre. If Joe's specific gravity for the oil of
0.92 is exact, then the oil weighs 920 grams per litre.
Is the 1.0% supposed to be the amount of lye *solution* per litre of
oil (which would raise the question of
wow
3.5 g/liter is 0.0035kg/liter
0.35kg is 350 grams
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To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lye - Metric to Imperial Unit Conversions
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:48:15
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Subject: /Re: [Biofuel] lye/
Date: /Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:38:49 -0400/
How can you be on this list and still be shopping at WALMART!!!
Heaven help us.
Joe
From: Joe Street
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To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] lye
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:38:49 -0400
How can you be on this list and still be shopping at WALMART!!!
Heaven help us.
Joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
first can I use
hi yall,
all i ahve to say is at least the walmarts aren't unionized. ( doesn't make them better but ... ) and that i agree with the going to a chemical shop. they will have what you need.
vince zJoe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Don;The comment about walmart, I knew would be humorous to
first can I use red devil lye that is used for drain cleaner is it pure lye,
it is in granular form should i grind it? also is denatured alcohol what
you buy in wal-mart buy the quart ok to use for my test batches and
training?
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How can you be on this list and still be shopping at WALMART!!!
Heaven help us.
Joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
first can I use red devil lye that is used for drain cleaner is it pure lye,
it is in granular form should i grind it? also is denatured alcohol what
you buy in wal-mart buy the quart
How can you be on this list and still be shopping at WALMART!!!
Heaven help us.
Joe
LOL Joe!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
first can I use red devil lye
Yes.
that is used for drain cleaner is it pure lye,
Yes - but make sure it's fresh, see the information at the Journey to
Forever biodiesel
Wait a minute.
...using Walmart as a supplier for an energy rebellion?
That's poetic!!
:-)
Mike
Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can you be on this list and still be shopping at WALMART!!!Heaven help us.Joe[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:first can I use red devil lye that is used for drain
OK look, glad you found this list, but take a little extra time and
find somewhere else to buy your supplies from. Save Walmart for those in utter denial. A Mom and Pop
location would be nice, or check out the suppliers listed at the JourneytoForever
site, or, as Keith said, work your way through
Although I agree with Mike K., I try not to be so serious in order to save my state of mind - even as I look for material for my new, bright blue vest that says "Organize!" on the back. Maybe, with my new attire,I'll have the nerve to shop at Walmart again someday.
:-)
MikeAntiFossil [EMAIL
Joe what I was looking for was a little help on how to make this bio-diesel fuel. I haven't looked at walmart for any additives to use. I am planning on looking at our local hardware store. I will be looking at the methonol alcohol and lye. I still don't know how to test any batch made. Also the
hey ray,
i produce bio diesel here in vancouver and have found a few different places that sell methanol and lye. a company called UNIVAR supplies both products out here for the larger amounts but when i was first starting i didn't need a 55 gallon drum and a 1kg bag so i found a smaller place
Anhydrous methanol is available from monarch oils in Kitchener at
$27.45 for 5 gal pail and $59.50 for 45 Gal drum. KOH available from
Alphachem in Mississauga 2kg - $27.45
10 kg - $190.50
50 kg - $725.00
You need a hazardous materials transport license to transport more than
2kg and they
Hello Ray, Jesse and all.
Yes, Jesse, busy is a good word for it just now.
OK Ray, by MeOH, you mean methanol right? (CH4OH).
There are indeed race tracks in the Ottawa area. The Ottodrome International
Speedway (Stittsville) and Luskville Dragway come to mind. I have no idea if
they
Hi again.
Finding lye in Canada can be a pain. I finally tracked a good source down at
Home Hardware here on the east coast. Gillette's Lye is available in small
bottles at HH and is expensive. HH has their own brand called Home Lye
Crystals and comes in a 3k container for about 18$.
Hope
x-charset ISO-8859-1Should I be upset? I was about to fire off my first
bigger batch (16
litres) and when I mixed the lye ( 3 ml +3.5 = 6.5 grams per liter) and
poured in the 3200 ml (16litres x 200 ml per liter) of methanol (HEET
brand fuel additive) I noticed after a bit that when I shook
Should I be upset? I was about to fire off my first bigger batch (16
litres) and when I mixed the lye ( 3 ml +3.5 = 6.5 grams per liter) and
poured in the 3200 ml (16litres x 200 ml per liter) of methanol (HEET
brand fuel additive) I noticed after a bit that when I shook it I could
hear what
What I've read was that it can take anywhere from 12-24 or more hours. A very
big time discrepency for what would seem to be a standard chemical reaction
that use fixed amounts of chemicals. I work on technical manuals and things
all day and can get caught up in semantics and exact wording
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pschmidtcc:
@madriver.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] lye not
dissolving? - physical
. You put thee lime
in thee coconut, you call thee doctor up. You put thee lime in the
coconut..
Got it?
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From: Paul B. Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] lye not dissolving
I believe it seems to be just the fact that the solution conducts
electricity that counts .. that it is an electrolyte.Any more
knowledgeable member can correct me if it seems obviously wrong.
Oily black deposit?? Oily implies (usually) a covalent substance (though
not always). The
Re old lye... we did this with it:
http://journeytoforever.org/at_billhook.html#rust
Rust
Here's a good way to remove all rust from steel tools. We've used it
a lot in restoring old tools deeply pitted with rust.
You need an ordinary car battery charger, lye (Red Devil or any
caustic soda
Here's a good way to remove all rust from steel tools. We've used it
a lot in restoring old tools deeply pitted with rust.
You need an ordinary car battery charger, lye (Red Devil or any
caustic soda -- sodium hydroxide) and a plastic bath -- a standard
25-litre plastic container with one
Here's a good way to remove all rust from steel tools. We've used it
a lot in restoring old tools deeply pitted with rust.
You need an ordinary car battery charger, lye (Red Devil or any
caustic soda -- sodium hydroxide) and a plastic bath -- a standard
25-litre plastic container with
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Lye methanol proportion
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:05:19 +0100
125 LITRE WVO
25 LITRE METHANOL
625 GRAMS CAUSTIC SODA (LYRE)
SEE 'FROM THE FRYER TO THE FUEL TANK' BY TIKLE
: [biofuel] Lye methanol proportion
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:05:19 +0100
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25 LITRE METHANOL
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What is the optimal proportion of lye (NaOH) as
catalyst, and how I calculate the additional lye
quantity in fuction of the oil acidity?
The optimal methanol proportion?.
Thanks.
Z.S.
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That's a much better price. Is the Lye dry? I would think it would
absorb alot of moisture just being in a bag. And last but not least
where can a guy buy something like that? I know lots of questions
but I do appreciate your reply to my initial post.
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Lye
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