Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-27 Thread csakima
Ok, you've got me to look! What is everyone trying to figure out?? (LOL) Curtis Electronic Technician / Electronics Hobbyist / Experimenter Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Spence
-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't heard that, sounds interesting. A lot of changes

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2003-03-26 Thread kirk
://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't heard that, sounds interesting

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Spence
: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power lowering the voltage to a dc motor kills the torque. duty cycle modulate the motor. doesn't waste power in a resistor either. Kirk -Original Message

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2003-03-26 Thread bratt
, 2003 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power an auto starter would work, but is over kill. it's designed for high torque, and uses high amps. you would need a very high wattage resistor (or run full tilt). Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter

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2003-03-26 Thread Keith Addison
Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power lowering the voltage

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-26 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 3/26/03 11:50:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have seen an automotive starter motor used to power a grain auger used which was being used to move wheat from a truck into a seeder. They seem to withstand that abuse. EdB thx Ed, i was

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-26 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 3/26/03 9:17:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: an auto starter would work, but is over kill. it's designed for high torque, and uses high amps. you would need a very high wattage resistor (or run full tilt). Thank you steve, hmmm,. maybe a 12v

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-26 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 3/26/03 9:51:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lowering the voltage to a dc motor kills the torque. duty cycle modulate the motor. doesn't waste power in a resistor either. Kirk Great idea, didn't think of that, thank you...jennifer

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2003-03-26 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 3/26/03 9:57:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you don't need much torque for this application. It's the wrong tool for the job any way you look at it. Steve Spence THx, i kinda figured it was in stock trim, thx for the input ...Jenn :-)

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2003-03-26 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 3/26/03 11:38:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Come on, guys, change the header already! Maybe these motors are powerful or maybe not but I doubt they're arrogant! Thanks Keith ROFL, good point, Actually i think the starter on the 454 in my 71

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2003-03-26 Thread Keith Addison
In a message dated 3/26/03 11:38:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Come on, guys, change the header already! Maybe these motors are powerful or maybe not but I doubt they're arrogant! Thanks Keith ROFL, good point, Well why didn't you do it then?? Sheesh! :-(

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2003-03-26 Thread Steve Spence
] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power I have seen an automotive starter motor used to power a grain auger used which was being used to move wheat from a truck into a seeder. They seem to withstand that abuse. EdB

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2003-03-25 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 3/25/03 1:06:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..I'm ALL for our Armed Forces using Bio-fuels, I talk about it all the time. I think about 98% of our Vehicles ARE diesel or Kero(air) powered. I think only the civilian

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2003-03-25 Thread robert luis rabello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't heard that, sounds interesting. A lot of changes coming down the pike it seems. also have heard of a diesel like direct injection type gas engine as well...lotta changes, and we're all going to be part of it.

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-24 Thread exotyone
..I'm ALL for our Armed Forces using Bio-fuels, I talk about it all the time. I think about 98% of our Vehicles ARE diesel or Kero(air) powered. I think only the civilian based Govt. cars and vans(and some of these are diesel now) are gas powered. Bio-diesel and hybrid cars in the mil. could

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-24 Thread paul van den bergen
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 02:13 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..I'm ALL for our Armed Forces using Bio-fuels, I talk about it all the time. I think about 98% of our Vehicles ARE diesel or Kero(air) powered. I think only the civilian based Govt. cars and vans(and some of these are diesel now) are gas

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-24 Thread robert luis rabello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..I'm ALL for our Armed Forces using Bio-fuels, I talk about it all the time. I think about 98% of our Vehicles ARE diesel or Kero(air) powered. I think only the civilian based Govt. cars and vans(and some of these are diesel now) are gas powered. Bio-diesel and

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-23 Thread Tricia Liu
Paul other non-believers: Please leave God out of your discussion! Show some respects toward other members! Thanks you! Political Discussion: It will die down when the war is over, please have patience and also respect each others!

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2003-03-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Todd and all - Original Message - From: Paul Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power snip Let's get back on topic. Paul And then he posts four more times off topic. Go figure

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2003-03-23 Thread Keith Addison
Tricia Liu wrote: Paul other non-believers: Please leave God out of your discussion! Show some respects toward other members! Thanks you! I agree with what you're saying Tricia, but some people have talked about God here in the past without any

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2003-03-23 Thread Appal Energy
If you want a good list you should stop these things before they start. You should state clearly in the rules that these types of postings will not be tolerated. Frankly, my outburst was caused by your inaction. You should have nipped it in the bud. No doubt someone will correct me if I'm

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-22 Thread Appal Energy
no more and no less valuable than the other. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power In a message dated 3/21/03 12:08:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-22 Thread Darald Bantel
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 17:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/21/03 7:16:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jennifer, Capt. USAF: Thank you for being who you are, and for keeping my home, wife, children, and grandchild safe. Harley in Wisconsin

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2003-03-22 Thread Paul Schwartz
Jennifer: Just wondering, did you take an oath to defend the US Constitution? Did you notice any mention of building a foreign empire in it? God bless Jennifer and all those who are in uniform. History will prove that they are saving this planet from tyrants and thugs, unlike the

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-22 Thread Paul Schwartz
Greetings Best wishes in keeping your promise - not even GOD gives a flat out promise like that. A Western Canadian If I had to trust my life to the hand of God, or the United States Marine Corp, I'd chose USMC. They have a better record of protecting people from the thugs of this world.

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-22 Thread Appal Energy
- Original Message - From: Paul Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power snip Let's get back on topic. Paul And then he posts four more times off topic. Go figure. But then who ever

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-21 Thread Andrew Preston
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:48:09 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Can all this liberal blame America crap20 of us may die now, so that 20,000 don't die later...get over it..i'm IN the military and you won't see me whining...get back to Bio-fuel matters...and CAN all this stupid and Moot

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2003-03-21 Thread harley3
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power Can all this liberal blame America crap20 of us may die now, so that 20,000 don't die later...get over it..i'm IN the military and you won't see me whining...get back to Bio-fuel matters...and CAN all this stupid and Moot political BS

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-21 Thread exotyone
PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power Can all this liberal blame America crap20 of us may die now, so that 20,000 don't die later...get over it..i'm IN the military and you won't see me

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2003-03-21 Thread exotyone
PS..at NO POINT did I mention Treason.Oddly, you feel treasonous? It is treason if Congress has declared us to be in a full scale war. They have Not, they declared Support for President Bush to deploy and use Force...but...either wayour enemies perception of this dissent can give

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-21 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 3/21/03 7:16:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jennifer, Capt. USAF: Thank you for being who you are, and for keeping my home, wife, children, and grandchild safe. Harley in Wisconsin Dear Harley: You're welcome, and thank

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-21 Thread martin
Treason consists of two elements: adherence to the enemy, and rendering him aid and comfort. So yes, whether you intended to or not, you said treason. When was the last time the US was at war? The government's definition of war is deprecated to what it actually is. Launching an attack called

[biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-20 Thread Jack Kenworthy
Senator Robert Byrd, for all of his faults, continues to voice a dissenting view on Bush Administration policy with a sense of outrage, clarity and compassion. Senate Remarks by Robert C. Byrd March 19, 2003 The Arrogance of Power I

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-20 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Jack, I admire Senator Robert Byrd also. I read his speeches and saw him on Larry King Live. It has been a long time now, since a saw anyone in the administration or congress, that have the clout of statesmanship that he is showing. He has a courage and wisdom that been lacking for a

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-20 Thread exotyone
Can all this liberal blame America crap20 of us may die now, so that 20,000 don't die later...get over it..i'm IN the military and you won't see me whining...get back to Bio-fuel matters...and CAN all this stupid and Moot political BS. Dissent once American troops are deployed = giving

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2003-03-20 Thread Paul Schwartz
10-4 Paul - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power Can all this liberal blame America crap20 of us may die now, so that 20,000 don't die later...get over it..i'm

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2003-03-20 Thread bratt
: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power Can all this liberal blame America crap20 of us may die now, so that 20,000 don't die later...get over it..i'm IN the military and you won't see me whining...get back to Bio-fuel matters...and CAN all this stupid and Moot political BS. Dissent once

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-20 Thread Appal Energy
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power Can all this liberal blame America crap20 of us may die now, so that 20,000 don't die later...get over it..i'm IN the military and you won't see me whining

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2003-03-20 Thread martin
Pull your hat down lower. Feels better to say you're right because your government says so, doesn't it. Dissent does NOT equal treason. I repeat because people with their crap logic don't understand it: DISSENT DOES NOT EQUAL TREASON. People who say they don't want the military over there are

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2003-03-20 Thread mohamed hassan
Dear All I am not a selfish man and with all due respect I have signed up to this group and others to offer and get help with my research on Bio fuel (Bio diesel) (an area which although not as significant as the war is as important), and not to a political discussion on the validly of the war on

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jennifer, Capt. USAF Can all this liberal blame America crap20 of us may die now, so that 20,000 don't die later...get over it..i'm IN the military and you won't see me whining...get back to Bio-fuel matters...and CAN all this stupid and Moot political BS. Dissent once American