Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-23 Thread Lillie Bennett
is. Lillie - Original Message - From: jkolling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn Lillie Bennett wrote: Like genetically modified food

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-23 Thread Appal Energy
Eschew Obfuscation - Original Message - From: Lillie Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn Hey! Maybe I'm not completely incompatible with the view points

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-23 Thread Dave Williams
Appal Energy wrote: History doesn't show that the Sun did it (is doing it) as we speak. History does show that the Earth's temp is rising Twenty-odd years ago, they were telling us, with all authority, that a new ice age was coming, and we should either move south, build big underground

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-23 Thread jkolling
- From: jkolling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn Lillie Bennett wrote: We in the US are eating it. If it gets out into the wild

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-23 Thread Appal Energy
Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn Appal Energy wrote: History doesn't show that the Sun did it (is doing it) as we speak. History does show that the Earth's

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-23 Thread bob allen
x-charset ISO-8859-1Dave Williams wrote: Twenty-odd years ago, they were telling us, with all authority, that a new ice age was coming, and we should either move south, build big underground bunkers, or both. Now it's the exact opposite. I feel like a character in 1984... You are

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-23 Thread esbuck
In a message dated 2/23/2004 11:54:12 AM Central Standard Time , or the forthcoming ice age, or global warming... grants, endowments, and tenure mean they're going to find whatever they're paid to find, and now that's global warming. no, quite the contrary. Scientists in industry may be paid

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread Appal Energy
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn It works both ways folks. Here is a recent quote from someone in the business: Due to legislation that was heavily lobbied by companies like mine, laws were passed

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread Lillie Bennett
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn It works both ways folks. Here is a recent quote from someone in the business: Due to legislation that was heavily lobbied by companies like mine, laws were

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread jkolling
Lillie Bennett wrote: Like genetically modified food but the greens have killed that in Europe and forced Africa to comply, so they starve. Yeah, that's right, treat the symptoms by forcing out more profit and using poor and hungry people to try it on, because they are unresistant. Instead

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread Lillie Bennett
. Lillie - Original Message - From: jkolling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn Lillie Bennett wrote: Like genetically modified food but the greens have killed

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread jkolling
- Original Message - From: jkolling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn Lillie Bennett wrote: Like genetically modified food but the greens have killed

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread jkolling
Hakan Falk wrote: Lillie, Higher yields has been discussed a lot, in Spain it has had very negative consequences. The cocktail of fertilizers and chemicals that goes with it, is outright crazy. that is true also, i forgot about that bit. and GM crops fail a lot. not much left of each

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread jkolling
Then you probably read it wrong. But let me try to explain it. GMO = Lower yields. Eco = no pesticides but use other methods (biological (natural insects), biodynamic (energetic), etc) Normal = with pesticides, And it has higher yields than GMO crops because a high % fails, and not even

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Lillie The point I was trying to make since I heard that admission, not my admission since I like to believe I have scruples, is that everyone with power wants more and anyone with money wants more; human nature. The top greens, the ones running the movement are just as corrupt as their

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-22 Thread Hakan Falk
Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn Lillie, Higher yields has been discussed a lot, in Spain it has had very negative consequences

Re: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-20 Thread Lillie Bennett
is unfair, well, welcome to the real world. It's the norm. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:09 PM Subject: [biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn Bush administration fudging data top

[biofuel] Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn

2004-02-19 Thread pivincent
x-charset ISO-8859-1Bush administration fudging data top scientists warn By OLIVER MOOREGlobe and Mail Update Wednesday, Feb. 18, 2004 Twenty Nobel laureates are among the scores of scientists who on Wednesday accused the Bush administration of using dubious science to gain public support