Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-31 Thread doctor who
Correct Propane tanks are not high pressure. But a BLEVE IS a high pressure situation. Specifically when the maximum safe pressure of the cylinder has been breeched and the safety valve does not release the pressure sufficiently, quickly or at all. It was added strictly as a comparison to

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-30 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's What a lot of Hooeeey --- I've seen several large (and full, or partially so) propane tanks that went thru

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-29 Thread Christopher S. Weller
An EV's has a far greater potential to leak acid or short and make the vehicle into a rolling welder or elephant sized cattle prod. Gelled or solid electrolytes can solve this problem. (I can provide pictures at request) Please. I also would like to see some of these

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread doctor who
Message - From: doctor who [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's High pressure tanks do not fail randomly. A negelected or non-annually inspected tank will fail at random

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread Pat McCotter
cordain, Thank you for that post on the comparative safety. The Scott air packs are a very safe item. Yes, I would like the air powered car, also. Because the technology is not available at this time, though, I am at present putting aside money for my EV conversion. For the very reasons you

[biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
doctor who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: High pressure tanks do not fail randomly. A negelected or non-annually inspected tank will fail at random. This is the fault of the operator not the tank. A regularly inspected properly functioning tank (relief valve or relief tube functioning) has a

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Cordain and All, --- doctor who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that when you wrap a EV around a tree or have a serious accident there is the potential for a Hazmat situation (drip or no drip it's still acid and hydrogen), electrocution or electrical fire. Whereas compressed

[biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
doctor who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that when you wrap a EV around a tree or have a serious accident there is the potential for a Hazmat situation (drip or no drip it's still acid and hydrogen), You only really have to worry about hydrogen buildup while charging, and then only

[biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-24 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and personally, i'd feel safer riding a windbag than a leadsled. Until you get in a crash and your 3000, 4500 PSI tanks blow up. Have you ever seen one of these blow, not pretty. Big high pressure tanks make me nervous. Back in the early '80's I

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-24 Thread Harmon Seaver
What a lot of Hooeeey --- I've seen several large (and full, or partially so) propane tanks that went thru a fire without any problem, and I mean a fire that took the buildings down to the ground. Batteries aren't so safe either -- all they need is a spark to set off the hyrogen gas, and they

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-24 Thread doctor who
From: Alan S. Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's . Big high pressure tanks make me nervous. Back in the early '80's I saw the result of a scuba tank exploding in the trunk

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-24 Thread steve spence
: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's High pressure tanks do not fail randomly. A negelected or non-annually inspected tank will fail at random. This is the fault of the operator not the tank. A regularly inspected properly functioning tank (relief valve or relief tube functioning

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-24 Thread Martin Klingensmith
A propane cylinder does not exceed 37.5 PSI An air tank on a tractor trailer rarely exceeds 150 PSI Just to clarify.. To me, a 3500 PSI natural gas tank is more scary than a high pressure air tank, it's not the initial release of gas that I'd be scared of, it's the resulting explosion. You are