We already had a lot of highways washed out here in Colorado last fall due
to a stationary front that didn't move for three days due to a weaker than
normal jet stream. 18 of rain in three days was more than the
infrastructure in a semi-arid climate could stand. Many of the roads are
still not
Hi Zeke
The but we did not expect this to happen so soon argument could be
reworded as I thought that I could avoid dealing with this problem
I've caused, and didn't really care that my children and
grandchildren would be screwed Not a very strong argument, it
seems to me.
No, but that
Keith Addison wrote:
Hi Zeke
The but we did not expect this to happen so soon argument could be
reworded as I thought that I could avoid dealing with this problem
I've caused, and didn't really care that my children and
grandchildren would be screwed Not a very strong argument, it
The but we did not expect this to happen so soon argument could be
reworded as I thought that I could avoid dealing with this problem I've
caused, and didn't really care that my children and grandchildren would be
screwed Not a very strong argument, it seems to me.
Z
On 2/25/07, Keith Addison
- Original Message -
From: John Wilson
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming: It's All About Energy (Keith
John,
I apologize John. In a previous post (Chicken Little Strikes Again!
2/5/07)
you
Hi John;
I read your website and it's a good thing you came to this forum,
because you have been misinformed. It's not your fault you have been a
victim of disinformation just like so many others. Read the archives
and you will find the answers to all your questions and confusion.
You'll
object to the change you made to the title: Re:
[Biofuel] Global Warming: It's All About Energy (Keith Addison).
I didn't write it, Michael Klare did, I only posted it, which doesn't
mean I agree with it. In fact I don't agree with some of it. If you
want to say something to me then do so
I don't think you are going to find much agreement around here. I'd be
willing to bet that a lot of the members of this list might not only
disagree but find your comments somewhat offensive. I know I do.
Joe
John Wilson wrote:
This in my opinion is without a doubt the greatest con ever
John,
I apologize John. In a previous post (Chicken Little Strikes Again!
2/5/07)
you wrote:
Doing an article to rebut this CO2 nonsense. It is so easy to refute. Anyone
ever tell you people who are for this chicken little theory that C02 causes
global warming that heat rises. The co2
John,
I apologize John. In a previous post (Chicken Little Strikes Again!
2/5/07)
you wrote:
Doing an article to rebut this CO2 nonsense. It is so easy to refute. Anyone
ever tell you people who are for this chicken little theory that C02 causes
global warming that heat rises. The co2
I don't think you are going to find much agreement around here. I'd be
willing to bet that a lot of the members of this list might not only
disagree but find your comments somewhat offensive. I know I do.
Joe
Sorry if the truth offends Joe! But I don't believe in living a lie!
Yours truly
If you're questioned again this time, don't ignore it.
By the way, I object to the change you made to the title: Re:
[Biofuel] Global Warming: It's All About Energy (Keith Addison).
Didn't make any changes keith Just cut and paste same as I did this time. See i
didn't ignore it!
Yours truly
From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming: It's All About Energy (Keith
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:48:25 -0400
If you're questioned again this time, don't ignore it.
By the way, I object to the change you made to the title: Re
Hello Randall
Here is an interesting article on the BBC website...kinda helps
reinforce the ...damned if you do, damned if you don't... feeling
a lot of people have...
Maybe there might be another reason they think that, if indeed they
do think that. See below, eg, or several tons of stuff in
Hello Martin and All,
I have a simple question. Where is the author´s substantial evidence? Science mag.org may not be a peer reviewed journal.
Tom
From: Martin Kemple [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:59:04 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel
Tom,
Good question. I decided to find out for sure. Here is a link which
says:
Science is a weekly, peer-reviewed journal
that publishes
significant original scientific research,
plus reviews and
analyses
It's the aliens over in adromeda. Every 100,000 years they wake up and microwave a burrito for breakfast, and the stray radiation from their microwave heats the earth upOn 3/20/06,
David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike McGinness wrote:
I ran into something new (to me) recently
You mean we can't blame the right-wing and SUV crowd anymore?
On Mar 20, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Mike McGinness wrote:
I ran into something new (to me) recently on the topic of global
warming, CO2 and the greenhouse gas issue that I decided to follow up
on
today to see if there was anything
Mike McGinness wrote:
I ran into something new (to me) recently on the topic of global
warming, CO2 and the greenhouse gas issue that I decided to follow up on
today to see if there was anything to it.
I have spent an entire day reading and searching the internet on the
topic and here are
was serious though, the list could start an initiative here,
members willing, but it'll have to be specific or nothing will
happen.
Best wishes
Keith
Terry Dyck
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel
: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:55:54 +0900
Hello Terry, tallex and all
Hello,
Why not discuss the story and implications right here.
This list is full of individuals that can help make a difference.
Can and have helped, are helping. Biofuel list members
@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:55:54 +0900
Hello Terry, tallex and all
Hello,
Why not discuss the story and implications right here.
This list is full of individuals that can help make a difference
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:55:54 +0900
Hello Terry, tallex and all
Hello,
Why not discuss the story
Hello Terry, tallex and all
Hello,
Why not discuss the story and implications right here.
This list is full of individuals that can help make a difference.
Can and have helped, are helping. Biofuel list members save lots of
carbon. It's been said the list has helped save more carbon than
From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:33:18 +
Hello,
Why not discuss the story and implications right here.
This list is full
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:33:18 +
Hello,
Why not discuss the story and implications right here.
This list is full of individuals that can help make
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Zeke Yewdall wrote:
it could be argued that, if indeed we have reached a tipping
point, that
preventing global warming is moot, and we should do whatever we can to
deal with the effects of global warming.
We should do that anyway..
There are other
Hello,
Why not discuss the story and implications right here.
This list is full of individuals that can help make a difference.
Believe me the well financed global warming skeptics and traditional fossil
fuel suppliers
won't win in the long run if we face them head on.
We will be confronting
Hey good thing, maybe I can fit one of these co2 converters
to my fermenters to keep the neighbors happy.
From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/24 Fri PM 10:03:14 EDT
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Global warming c02 turned into baking soda
Hi Tallex,
And as the old adage would have it, the cake is sure to
rise
Here t'is
Regards,
Bob.
COMPANY DEVELOPS PROCESS TO TURN CO2 INTO BAKING SODA.
by Keith Anderson
June 23, 2005 Quebec city - CO2 Solutions inc. of Quebec city has developed
a process to turn co2
I have no doubt about global warming only about the sources of the
warming. I was fascinated by your primer and have a question.
Please forgive if this is a stupid question. You said the energy
absorbed must equal the energy radiated out into space. What about the
energy that is used
--- Rick Littrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'clip'
What about
the
energy that is used to drive the activity on the planet; the
mechanical
energy in the wind, chemical reactions the atmosphere and oceans and
in
biological activity, etc. Is this subtracted from what you expect
to
geothermal, and tidal, all energy is solar, directly or indirectly. The
heat generated when I pace about a classroom is solar derived.
sunlight-- photosynthesis--- plant matter--- food---bob's motion---
heat.
Same thing with wind, all biological activity(except those weird
ecosystems
Thanks so much.
Rick
bob allen wrote:
Rick, with the exception of a very small amount of energy derived from
geothermal, and tidal, all energy is solar, directly or indirectly.
The heat generated when I pace about a classroom is solar derived.
sunlight-- photosynthesis--- plant matter---
Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
No problem Todd.
I gotcha, loud and clear. Even if Ken was 100% correct, I would have
worded it a little
Thanks Todd. Nice reply
P.
What is it that the Buddhist monk said? It's not often a person gets
the
chance to be a human. It's a shame to waste it. Or something rather
close
to that.
We're only given so much time and one existance to expend it. It would
be a
shame to squander it on those
-
From: Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching
Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
No problem Todd.
I gotcha, loud and clear. Even if Ken was 100%
correct, I would
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
7Dear Appal,
I must apologize for my post. People say that one
of the problems with email is that you click the send
button before you have
: Michael Redler
To:
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
Ken is right.
The statement
'colder than normal' means that someone else has a 'hotter than normal'.
could only be true if the same
such friends.
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message -
From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
Thanks Todd. Nice reply
P.
What
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns
Leading Climate Expert
Hello Todd
Michael,
Since you seem ready to accept
, yet), but I use other full-text
searches all the time, highly recommended.
Regards
Keith
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point
--- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Considering the fact that the sun only radiates so
much heat per minute,
hour, day or year, your colder than normal means
that someone else has a
hotter than normal.
NOT TRUE
You statement shows that you do not understand the
greenhouse effect.
: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
--- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Considering the fact that the sun only radiates so
much heat per minute,
hour, day or year, your colder than normal means
Ken is right.
The statement
'colder than normal' means that someone else has a 'hotter than normal'.
could only be true if the same amount of energy reaches the Earth's surface
every day. Changes in the ozone layer changes the amount of energy reaching the
Earths surface.
The
-
From: Ken Riznyk
To:
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
--- Appal Energy wrote:
Considering the fact that the sun only radiates so
much heat per minute,
hour, day or year, your
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
Ken is right.
The statement
'colder than normal' means that someone else has a 'hotter than normal'.
could only be true
This was
before my lifetime [58].We believe in global warming and colorado is looking
real
good to us in summers.
Man, more texans in colorado... curse the good weather there. Just jokes. If
you're going, live on the west side (much prettier and more water).
-dave
: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
Ken is right.
The statement
'colder than normal' means that someone else has a 'hotter than normal'.
could only be true if the same amount of energy reaches the Earth's
surface every day. Changes
snip
Think global warming's bad? Wait till you see global cooling.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm
Todd Swearingen
snip
Good piece by Thom Hartmann, as usual.
This below is part of a previous discussion here in 2003, between me
and MM, which you might find interesting:
.
By the way, who or what was blamed for the end of the ice age (wall
street, no doubt - works for me :-0)?
Mick
From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate
?
--Randall
- Original Message -
From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
Mick,
Can you feel the difference of 1 degree increase
I was reading about that and started to look at Georgia real estate...
Andy
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:33:34 -0800, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 26, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Mickey *B** wrote:
As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a
hard time
Considering the fact that the sun only radiates so much heat per minute,
hour, day or year, your colder than normal means that someone else has a
hotter than normal. And due to the fact that neither hotter than normal
and colder than normal are exactly quantitative in their expression, it's
ocean current is messed up from global warming from greenhouse gases...
and this causes totally wird weather kinda like 4 hurricanes in a
month in Florida this year... well probbly not..
The time span in the movie was a little unrealistic...normal to ice age
in a few days..
It could
I believe one degree is the
difference between water or ice.
Mick,
Can you feel the difference of 1 degree increase on average?
Andy
As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a hard
time swallowing the global warming concept.
Mick
SECOND TERM: MUCH OF
I believe one degree is the
difference between water or ice.
Nope. One degre is the difference between 1 degree and 0 degree
water. The difference between the solid and liquid state of matter
is several times bigger. Ice has a lot more energy trapped inside
then just the deltaT of 1.
But
I think that I have to disagree with both of you, it is less than 1
degree. The difference between water and ice at 1 atm at 0 degrees C
is 0 degrees.
Andy
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:27:47 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe one degree is the
difference between water or
- works for me :-0)?
Mick
From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:21:14 -0500
Mick,
Can you feel the difference
If you don't trust statistics done by other people, you could go out
and get the daily average temperatures arounds the world and do the
math yourself.
I did exactly that this week. My friend sent me two hinky graphs that
supposedly showed a warming trend warming trend for the globe but
]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No
Return,Warns Leading Climate Expert
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:21:14 -0500
Mick,
Can you feel the difference of 1 degree increase on average?
Andy
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:56:42 -0600, Mickey *B**
[EMAIL PROTECTED
or what was blamed for the end of the ice age (wall
street, no doubt - works for me :-0)?
Mick
From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No
Return,Warns Leading Climate
time swallowing the global warming concept.
Mick
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns
Leading Climate Expert
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:22:33 +0900
As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a
hard time swallowing the global warming concept.
In that case, NASA has a nice little page called If There's Global
Warming, Why Am I Freezing My Buns Off? that you should read. You can
find it here.
Mick,
Can you feel the difference of 1 degree increase on average?
Andy
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:56:42 -0600, Mickey *B**
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a hard
time swallowing the global warming concept.
Mick
From: Keith
On Jan 26, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Mickey *B** wrote:
As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a
hard time swallowing the global warming concept.
That could be because you haven't taken the time to inform
yourself about the concept -- an ice age in the northern
]
Cc:
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No
Return,Warns Leading Climate Expert
As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a
hard
time swallowing the global warming concept.
Mick
Message -
From: Mickey *B** [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns
Leading Climate Expert
As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a hard
time
Dire warnings from global warming report
Financial and environmental impact of
rising UK emissions projected
Owen Bowcott
Oct 25, 2004
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1335129,00.html
...the study - Forecasting the Future...
Published by the Energy Saving Trust,
the body
Hi again Lillie
Would anybody care to debunk this article?
http://www.techcentralstation.com/022404D.html
Lillie
I debunked the authors instead, but it's also been debunked by
scientists, or their previous, similar, article was.
Here's the scientists' response:
Ed,
I found the same tings, the data and case are solid for the ongoing climate
change. It is happening You cannot find holes in this!!! It is
overwhelming arguments for that it is manmade!!!
Since I worked much with emission/storage and the reluctance by engineers
to consider it. I
Hi Hakan
Keith,
My opinion is that we are even more in a hurry to save energy and
put significant resources into finding out what really is happening.
Agreed.
It would be very bad if it is some other components than CO2 or
the way we use energy. Then we sequester CO2 and start burning
coal at
x-charset ISO-8859-1Would anybody care to debunk this article?
http://www.techcentralstation.com/022404D.html
Lillie
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Lillie,
I accept that the Global Warming phenomena is a true and serious risk, but
I am quite sure that all the factors that causes it are not counted for. It
is a far more complex situation than only the CO2 pollution. I also think
the CO2 pollution should be looked at as tracer of a far
Some scientists say it's not happening, some say it is, some scientists
say it's manmade, some say it isn't. Perhaps the ratio between them is
even 50%-50%
Some scientists are put to work to prove a certain idea, paid, ofcourse,
so you will get reports of evidence in whichever way is looked
Would anybody care to debunk this article?
http://www.techcentralstation.com/022404D.html
Lillie
Hello Lillie
Not it, them: Willie Soon, Lucy Hancock and Sallie Baliunas. The
first and third are easily tracked, no need to bother with the
second, and what's uncovered leaves no need to debunk
Keith,
Climate change is happening and it is very compelling proof to the
conclusion that it is man made and pollution related. It might even be
worse and more rapid than we now belive and it is very important that we
get to the root of it.
By making future scenarios based on several times
Keith,
Climate change is happening and it is very compelling proof to the
conclusion that it is man made and pollution related. It might even be
worse and more rapid than we now belive and it is very important that we
get to the root of it.
Of course. It's also very important that we stop
Keith,
My opinion is that we are even more in a hurry to save energy and
put significant resources into finding out what really is happening.
It would be very bad if it is some other components than CO2 or
the way we use energy. Then we sequester CO2 and start burning
coal at full speed, only
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hi MM
Much agree with what you say about the CFC-Ozone issue, and I think
it has come up here before.
If you stopped reading thereas most of the knee-jerk,
junk scientists doyoud be terribly misled.
It's not too hard to see who it is that's been a little misled by
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:36:49 +0900, you wrote:
Hi MM
Much agree with what you say about the CFC-Ozone issue, and I think
it has come up here before.
Thanks for going over the other info. I will have to review it at a
later time.
On the CFC-Ozone issue, I have a followup comment.
I
x-charset ISO-8859-1
If you stopped reading thereas most of the knee-jerk,
junk scientists doyoud be terribly misled.
NASA has been monitoring the temperature of the lower
layers of the atmosphere since 1979. Since this
encompasses the same last 20 years of the National
Academy of
Hi Keith
I work out of university Internet café 2 or 3 hours at
time, not every day, and just dont have time to reply
to all of your many posts. Chaos takes a eureka
moment like seeing the first pictures of the entire
Earth taken from outer space. The entire domain can
be seen without knowing
Hi Bob
I agree with your analysis. Additional energy is
being added to the atmosphere immediately by heat
released from burning and perhaps by greenhouse
effects in the future. H2O is a more effective
greenhouse gas than CO2 and is rarely mentioned. I
read an article by German researchers
Hi Keith
A long reply that could take some time to answer
thoughtfully. In short, Chaos theory in fact provides
the opportunity to see the global (meaning domain)
behavior of a nonlinear system without being able to
know the details. A wonderful theory in fact where
hopelessly complex systems
Hi Keith
Just one more reply
The results of the added energy to the
global climate systems are not. What is clear is the
anthropogenic
impacts are likely to destabilize the climate in a
number of ways ,
Why do you talk as if it's something that may happen
in the future
Bob? It's
Ken and Keith,
Someone mentioned graphs of global warming.I am including a link for a
site which may or may not have what you are looking for.It is
interesting in it's own right as well.
Regards,
John
3G on W3: The Graet Globe Gallery on the World Wide Web
x-charset ISO-8859-1On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:37:38 +0900, you wrote:
Global Warming
I donç intend to be a heretic and only want to
mention that the Earthç climate follows a strange
attractor and there are mathematical reasons, verified
by experiment, why itç not possible to know what will
tools to analyze a chaotic system.
Now they could use a simple equation to predict the outcome of a more
complex equation.
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Global Warming
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hello Bob
How about we refer to this subject as the risk of global climate
change . This blunts the arguments of many of the naysayers.
Um, actually it naysays it. It's not a risk, it's happening. An
embarrassment of riches (of a sort), but, again, see what the
insurers
Howdy Kieth,
How about we refer to this subject as the risk of global climate
change . This blunts the arguments of many of the naysayers.
Um, actually it naysays it. It's not a risk, it's happening. An
embarrassment of riches (of a sort), but, again, see what the
insurers say:
Yes
x-charset ISO-8859-1Global Warming
I donç intend to be a heretic and only want to
mention that the Earthç climate follows a strange
attractor and there are mathematical reasons, verified
by experiment, why itç not possible to know what will
happen to global temperature with the addition of
Hi Keith
I was afraid this was going to happen! Chaos is not a
scientific view rather a proven mathematical
(mathematics is stronger than scientific theories)
fact about the way nonlinear dynamical systems behave
in the real world. Laminar flow to turbulence is a
good example. Behavior
Global warming is created by activity of man. Although life's patterns
can be explained by mathematical concepts to a certain extent with
our limited senses, theories can also be described and explained by
man, which come true without scientific analysis, but with belief. The
scientific method
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hi Keith
I was afraid this was going to happen! Chaos is not a
scientific view rather a proven mathematical
(mathematics is stronger than scientific æòheoriesç§
fact about the way nonlinear dynamical systems behave
in the real world. Laminar flow to turbulence is a
good
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:02:35 +0200, you wrote:
Sorry Bob,
I just came from a very nice wedding party. Yearly use of oil is 29 trillion
barrel a year...
I think you meant billion. That would be about 77 million barrels per day,
which is somewhere around what I think is used worldwide.
MM,
You are right, I slept now. Should be 29 and 900 billion and
estimates of what is not found range between 1 and 3 trillion.
It was a good party. -:))
Hakan
At 11:38 AM 10/19/2003, you wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:02:35 +0200, you wrote:
Sorry Bob,
I just came from a very nice
Bob,
We must both know that this numbers does not tell us much. As I
said before, I do not know enough and I claimed that others might
not know enough either. Many know more than me, that is for sure.
I just want to throw a couple of question to you, since you are
giving me data and are making
Sorry Bob,
I just came from a very nice wedding party. Yearly use of oil is 29 trillion
barrel a year and total known reserves is around 900 trillion. It should also
say that our living space is very narrow in depth.
Hakan
At 02:38 AM 10/19/2003, you wrote:
Bob,
We must both know that this
How American
It is perfectly understandable what you mean but not aplyable to all
cultures/regions.
Johs.
Norway.
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