Re: [biofuel] journey to forever

2002-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People like David Morris and the ILSR, the Carbohydrate Economy Clearinghouse and Sustainable Minnesota do good work with these issues, but people don't want to listen. Carbohydrate Economy Clearinghouse http://www.carbohydrateeconomy.org/

Re: [biofuel] journey to forever

2002-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a very interesting page with a lot of work behind it. Hadn't really looked at it before except for a couple of biofuels things. What I've been meaning to say about biofuel and inventions and such: The big obstacle I've run into lately in arguing for biofuels or attempting to do so, is

Re: [biofuel] journey to forever

2002-04-28 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 10:39:30AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big obstacle I've run into lately in arguing for biofuels or attempting to do so, is the old ethanol takes more BTU to make than it results in argument. Even dismissing Pimentel's stuff, the more mainstream findings,

Re: [biofuel] journey to forever

2002-04-28 Thread Keith Addison
The energy efficiency numbers don't make a lot of sense. They make no sense if you apply them to energy provision on an integrated farm, or a cooperative of integrated farms, or to a community associated with such a cooperative or cooperatives. To begin with the fossil-fuel inputs in raising